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Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

Truth & Justice is a true crowdsourced investigation in real time. Host, Bob Ruff, asks listeners to help with investigations as he takes on a new potential wrongful conviction case every season. The subject of Season 12 is a grizzly 2006 triple homicide, that occurred in Pinyon Pines, California. Three innocent people lost their lives, and many believe that Robert Pape and Cristin Smith were wrongfully convicted of the murders. Join the investigation, and together we'll find the truth!

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S12E21: Alex

Bob continues to pull on the figurative "ball of yarn" to see what unravels. Today we hear an interview with someone we haven't heard from yet, Alex Foulan.... and it's not at all what we were expecting.

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2022-08-14
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S12E20: Follow-Up S12:E20

Ahoy friends! There are A LOT of listener questions that Bob & Zanet go over today while Jack is on assignment. Get ready for a Friday Follow-Up chock full of details.

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2022-08-12
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S12E20: Puzzle Pieces

Bob brings us more information and shares some interesting interviews with us in the Pinyon Pines case. We hear clips of Austin Alba, Beau Nash, Jacob Santiago, and Nick Coraline.

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2022-08-07
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S12E19: Follow-Up S12:E19

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss their thoughts on all the discrepancies in this week's episode with the Cory Donovan interview. Listeners give their input and ask some great questions.

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2022-08-05
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S12E19: Cory Donovan's Interview

This episode may change everything you think you know about the Pinyon Pines case so far. Grab a pen and a notebook... and listen close. This is the interview with Cory Donovan.

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2022-07-31
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S12E18: Follow-Up S12:S18

Ahoy, Friends! Bob's back from assignment! Jack and Zanet are super excited to catch up with Bob about everything that took place in the Pinyon Pines case while he was away.

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2022-07-29
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S12E18: Jacob Santiago's Interview

Becky's ex-Boyfriend, Jacob Santiago, was interviewed by police three days after her body was discovered. Becky had broken up with Jacob two days before the murders. This is Jacob's 9/20/06 police interview.

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2022-07-24
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S12E17: Follow-Up S12:E17

It's the Truth & JUST US Friday Follow-Up! Zaq and Janet discuss everything that Dr. Shiloh and Dr. Scott laid out for them in this week's full episode, "The Doctors Return."

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2022-07-22
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S12E17: The Doctors Return

Janet and Zaq steer the ship while Bob is away on assignment. Special guests, Dr. Shiloh and Dr. Scott from the L.A. Not So Confidential Podcast, join us today to discuss details of Javier's full interview.

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2022-07-17
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S12E16: Follow-Up S12:E16

Bob, Zaq, and Janet go over the details of this week's fact-filled episode.

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2022-07-15
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Introducing: Who Killed Daphne?

When a car bomb kills Daphne Caruana Galizia on the beautiful Mediterranean island of Malta, the hunt for her killers exposes secrets with consequences that go far beyond its shores. In the aftermath of her death an international team of journalists comes together to continue her work. Along the way they start to uncover clues that might lead to her killers. From Wondery, comes a new story about power, corruption and one woman?s fight for the truth. Hosted by investigative reporter Stephen Grey.

 

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2022-07-11
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S12E16: Back On Track

Bob dives deeper than ever into the Pinyon Pines case. We hear an interview with Sam Gayer, friend of Robert and Cristin. We also get to be co-pilots on a virtual, minute-by-minute breakdown of the route down the mountain.

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2022-07-10
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S12E15: Follow-Up S12:E15

Today Bob, Janet and Zaq chat about the plethora of information we heard in Javier's full interview. They also share a West Memphis Three update.

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2022-07-08
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S12E15: Javier's Full Interview

Today we hear Javier's full interview. Grab a pen and paper, because this one is chock-full of information.

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2022-07-03
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S12E14: Follow-Up S12:E14

Today you'll hear Bob, Zaq & Janet talk more about the WM3 ruling, as well as all the details of this past week's episode.

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2022-07-01
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S5E44: WM3 Ruling Explained

Bob breaks down the events of last week. The way Supporters were treated at the hearing, the ruling and the next steps in our fight for the truth.

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2022-06-28
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S12E14: An Interview with Javier

This week, we listen to two interviews with Javier to see what additional info we can gather. What are your thoughts? Be sure to tell us on the Truth & Justice Instagram page!

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2022-06-26
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S12E13: Follow-Up S12:E13

In a rare, night-time recording of the Friday Follow-Up, Bob & Zap join Janet as they have a lively discussion about the phone pings and cell phone tower data.

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2022-06-24
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Wondery Presents: The Execution of Bonny Lee Bakley

On May 4, 2001, Bonny Lee Bakley was found fatally shot in a car on a dark North Hollywood street. The prime suspect was her husband, famed actor Robert Blake. But Bonny, a longtime con artist, had plenty of enemies. She left behind a trail of men she?d scammed, and she had a volatile relationship with Christian Brando, the troubled son of movie star Marlon Brando. 

Not since the O.J. Simpson case had the eyes of the nation been so fixated on a homicide. The search for Bonny?s killer took detectives on an eleven-month odyssey across the country and through Hollywood's underbelly of hustlers, drug addicts, and would-be hitmen. It would be the most expensive murder investigation in LAPD history to date. 

This is the story of Robert and Bonny?s toxic relationship, her shocking murder, and his chaotic trial. Did actor Robert Blake kill his wife? Or was the murder someone else's vendetta?

From Wondery, and the team behind the hit series Hollywood & Crime (The Dating Game Killer, The Wonderland Murders, Death of Starlet) comes a six-part series about love, obsession and fame gone wrong. Co-hosted by Tracy Pattin and Josh Lucas.

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2022-06-20
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S12E13: Pings

Last week, Bob gave us a thorough analysis of the cell phone records of everyone involved in the case, but this week, we go even further down the habit hole. Don't be surprised if you have some lightbulb moments during this episode. Be sure to post your questions, comments, and epiphanies on our social media!

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2022-06-19
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S12E12: Follow-Up S12:E12

Janet is back from Europe and joins Bob and Zap to discuss the phone records. The online chat is bursting with listener questions and comment that you won't want to miss!

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2022-06-17
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Bonus: Conversation w/ Cell Phone Expert

This bonus episode is raw and unedited. In this week's main episode Bob asked listeners if they would like to hear the conversation he had with Cell Expert, Ian Patterson. A lot of listeners wanted to hear it, so here it is. Please forgive the roughness of the sound quality. This is for reference purposes and is not edited as a normal episode.

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2022-06-14
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S12E12: A Game of Telephone

It's time to review the cell phone records of the key players involved in this case. Grab a pen and a note pad, put on your best listening ears...because we've A LOT of things to talk about.

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2022-06-12
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S12E11: Follow-Up S12:E11

Janet joins Bob and Zaq from across the pond to chat about Bob's final episode with Jim Clemente. They also clear up a few questions and concerns from listeners.

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2022-06-10
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Introducing - Persona: The French Deception

Introducing the true crime podcast Persona: The French Deception? the story of Gilbert Chikli, one of the greatest con artists of all time. What does it feel like to pick up the phone and scam someone out of $50 million? Host and award-winning journalist, Evan Ratliff, investigates how Chikli successfully duped some of the world?s most powerful people into handing over their fortunes. He explores how Chikli evaded the law for years and became a Robin Hood-like hero. More than just a tale of criminal genius, this is a show about the moment we?re living in right now ? the golden age of scammers ? and the power of seduction. But what happens when the fantasy we?ve been lured into finally crumbles away? For all that and more, follow ?Persona: The French Deception? wherever you get your podcasts. Or you can listen early on Amazon Music or early and ad-free by subscribing to Wondery Plus in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery app: wondery.fm/TaJ_Persona

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2022-06-06
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S12E11: Jim Clemente Part 3

Today's the day you've been waiting for... the third and final installment of Bob's chat with former FBI profiler, Jim Clemente. Will they finally see eye to eye on who the real target was and the killer's level of criminal sophistication? Or will they agree to disagree?

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2022-06-05
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S12E10: Follow-Up S12:E10

Bob and Zaq are joined by Janet as she's "on assignment" in the UK. The crew discusses Bob's previous episode with Jim Clemente, fielding some listener comments and reactions. What will the Jim Clemente part 3 finale bring? Tune in on Sunday to find out!

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2022-06-03
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S12E10: Jim Clemente Part 2

Bob continues his discussion with former FBI profiler, Jim Clemente. One of them sees a level of criminal sophistication in the Pinyon Pines murders. The other thinks the killers were amateurs who botched the job. Now, what do YOU think?

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2022-05-29
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S12E9: Follow-Up S12:E9

Bob, Janet, and Zaq discuss the Jim Clemente episodes so far, and the gang receives some ground-breaking insights from our listeners.

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2022-05-27
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S12E9: Jim Clemente Part 1

Today, Bob is joined by former FBI profiler, Jim Clemente. They discuss the details of the case in order to narrow down who the target may have been.

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2022-05-22
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S12E8: The Autopsies

In this episode, Bob goes through the autopsy reports, which are...pretty short, for lack of a better word. However, they do give us a slightly better idea of the damage sustained to the bodies in the fire.

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2022-05-15
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S12E7: Follow-Up S12: E7

Bob, Janet and Zaq discuss the fires more in-depth. They contemplate where they may have started, and the possible order of events. And as always, they take some great listener questions.

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2022-05-13
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S12E7: The Fires

In today's episode, Bob uses his experience as a firefighter to break down all the details of the fatal Pinyon Pines fire. Where did the fires start? What was the point of origin? Listen now to find out the answers to your questions.

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2022-05-08
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JonBenét Ramsey Bonus Follow-Up

Today's episode is a follow-up to the bonus JonBenét Ramsey live show you heard with Bob, The Captain, and Kelli.

Bob, Janet, and Zaq discuss details of the JonBenét Ramsey case, CrimeCon highlights, and they even take a few Pinyon Pines questions.

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2022-05-06
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Bob & The Captain Debate JonBenét Ramsey Case

Welcome to the live show, from Grand Rapids, MI! Bob, The Captain, and Kelli discuss one of the most-hotly debated cases in America.

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2022-05-01
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S12E6: Follow-Up S12: E6

Bob, Zaq and Janet go over some more details of the crime scene, and some of this week's listener questions prove that the Truth & Justice Army is brilliant!

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2022-04-29
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S12E6: The Crime Scene

Starting with the 911 call, Bob discusses the timeline of the night and the details of the crime scene. Who was the anonymous stranger in the truck that firefighters saw while en route to the house? Why did investigators miss so many pieces of potentially crucial evidence? Listen now, as Bob breaks down even more details of this very complicated case.

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2022-04-24
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S12E5: Follow-Up S12: E5

Bob and Zaq join Janet for a YouTube Live to discuss some questions that linger about the case. What's the story with the money? Who was Becky living with her Senior year? Listen now to hear their thoughts. 

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2022-04-22
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S12E5: A Broader Look

Bob takes a closer look into the victimology of Jon, Vicki and Becky. We hear never before heard interviews with Jon's co-workers, and their neighbors.

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2022-04-17
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S12E4: Follow-Up S12: E4

Back from "assignment", Bob and Zaq join Janet for a YouTube Live session to answer listener questions.

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2022-04-15
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S12E4: The Interview

Bob is joined by two Forensic Psychologists, Dr. Shiloh and Dr. Scott, from the LA Not So Confidential podcast. The Docs have been kind enough to spend a week analyzing Robert Pape?s interview, and they?re here today to break down their thoughts.

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2022-04-10
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S12E3: Follow-Up S12: E3

Bob and co-hosts take on social media questions while recording on YouTube Live.

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2022-04-01
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S12E3: The Hike

 As we continue to try to piece together Becky?s movements on the day of the murders, Bob shares two very important police interviews. First we hear from the source of the hiking trip info, Javier Garcia, Jr. Then we hear from Becky?s ex-boyfriend Robert, as he speaks to police about his plans with Becky.

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2022-03-27
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S12E2: Follow-Up S12: E2

Bob, Zaq and Janet discuss listener questions from both social media and Youtube Live.

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2022-03-25
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S12E2: Becky?s Day

Bob discusses the victimology of Vickie, Jon and Becky. We hear original police interviews that help to piece together Becky?s movements on the day of the murders.

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2022-03-20
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S12: E1 Follow-Up

Bob, Zaq and Janet discuss listener questions over Youtube Live for the first Follow-Up in Season 12.

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2022-03-18
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S12E1: Up The Hill

In this Season 12 Premiere episode, Bob begins to the lay out the very basics of what is sure to be a complex case. On Sunday September 17, 2006, the small unincorporated community of Pinyon Pines, CA was rocked by one of the most horrific and baffling crimes that we?ve ever investigated on this podcast.

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2022-03-13
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Reporting on WM3

Bob interviews Jonesboro Reporter, George Jared. George has been reporting on the WM3 case since 2008. He sat through the entire Rule 37 hearing, and has the inside scoop on the latest developments.

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2022-03-11
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A Strong Response

Bob breaks down the latest filing in the WM3 case, followed by fielding questions from a Facebook Live Q&A. 

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2022-03-06
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Andrew Collins Follow-Up

Bob and Zaq welcome Janet Varney onto the show in her first Follow-Up as a permanent co-host.

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2022-03-04
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