Pre-show: Marco has a new toy Follow-up: Vision Pro Light Seal sizes decoded Vision Pro Size Help tool JPEG XL lives? in PDF Chromium ticket jxl-rs: JPEG XL in Rust Chapter links in Apple Podcasts Stephen Robles on The Talk Show Apple documentation ATP on Threads Malicious content delivery on Podcasts.app? 404 Media article Everybody is leaving Apple John Giannandrea to retire from Apple Amar Subramanya’s first-week experience at Microsoft Alan Dye poached by Meta Jason’s take Cloudflare’s 18 November Outage Cloudflare Lets Encrypt Hypercritical Callsheet Ask ATP: Why can’t Siri pronounce names correctly? (via Tony West) serra queue sah Siri, what’s my full name Post-show: What now, bagel snobs? BagelFest Baltik’s Bagel: People’s Choice award Baltik’s Bagel Coverage from the NY metro area Bullstrap Minimalist Case Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple ? Intel? Intel 18A vs. TSMC N2 MTr/mm²

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Pre-show: Marco bought a new toy ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It II Bryan’s toot pen.tips Paperlike 3 Paperlike Pencil Tips Follow-up: macOS Tahoe 26.2 ?3 seems to fix Electon slowdown (per shamelectron) Gurman says “not so fast, my friend” Gaming in ARM Anti-cheat complications (via Tyler) Windows 11 on ARM (via David Gaw) OpenAI Egg update Interview video Fred T Apple N1 > Broadcom An iPhone camera cluster theory The UK is still trying to make fetch happen get themselves a back door Financial Times Apple Fitness+ is “Under Review” Fast charging & battery health Juli Clover summary @ MacRumors Ask ATP: Now that Marco owns a restaurant, does he tip differently? (via Max Velasco Knott) What do we think about third-party packages? (via Eric Jacobsen) swift-collections swift-async-algorithms CPAN Flow Is organizing /Applications a poor choice? (via Nathan) Are our kids better than we are at video games yet? (via Omri Arbiv) Ultimate Chicken Horse SongPop Party UltraKill Universal Paperclips Cookie Clicker Post-show: The saga of Overcast episode images Core Intuition Linode Object Storage CloudFlare R2 Members-only ATP Overtime: Should we ever be forced to put away our phones? (via Philip McDermott)

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?? New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It II ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It — 16 October 2023 Follow-up: The origin of “diamond dogs” (via Jared Counts) Wikipedia Matte, glossy, glass, and nanotexture (via Johnny “Decimal” Noble) Paperlike Rock Paper Pencil Steam Machine EuroGamer article about APU/GPU (via DavidShaub) PlayStation 5 OS is FreeBSD-based (via Jesús Santaigo Narváez) Wikipedia PS Dev Wiki Steam Frame Lenses (via Michael) Spec chart (via James O’Loughlin) Top strap image Steam ? Apple Vision Pro using ALVR (via Iain Wallace) Guide on Reddit SteamOS Is not universally supported (via DavidSchaub) Alternatives (via solmnmagus) Bazzite CachyOS Anti-cheat considerations (via Julian Torres) Screw it, I’m installing Linux Steam strategy Is Steam-on-ARM popular? Hardware survey (via Lars Boris) Additional thoughts from Ava Steam has only one person to answer to (via charlesesmith) Single thread performance ranking (via Steven Op de beeck) “High-Res Antiglare” (via Adam Wunn) John mourns the recent news GPU issues (via Colin Cornaby) GeekBench Metal scores Mac Pro (2019) + AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT Mac Studio (2025) + M3 Ultra The Case for a True Mac Pro Successor Tim Cook to step down as early as next year Tim Cook & Kara Swisher in 2021 (starts at 35:51) As discussed in ATP #425: Hey Billionaire Financial Times, 14 November 2025 Gruber’s take Joe Rossignol @ Mac Rumors Apple Corporate Governance Guidelines Post-show: Declan discovers “HyperCard” Rage-baiting Members-only ATP Overtime: The App Store on the web Dan Moren @ Six Colors MJ Tsai Apple shipped its source maps Svelte See also: Apple Maps on the web Announcement See also: Apple Podcasts on the web Juli Clover @ MacRumors

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Follow-up: John has some new Vision Pro treats Flight Ready In the defense of the CD-R (via Jonathan Goforth) ATP Tier List: Storage Media Auto-generated chapters in Apple podcasts We’re dummies: ATP has a [chapter-free] bootleg Some more technical details (via Stephen Robles) Subscriber audio chapters are a mess New MacBook Pro design is for M6 Pro & Max only? Mark Gurman’s coverage MD101 Tahoe & Electron app fixes Discord is fixed (via Dayton Lowell) Microsoft Teams Classic is likely to never get fixed (via Adam Wunn) macOS Emoji Picker ? ? Space Rocket Pogo-stick robot Boston Dynamics A butt-dialing theory from Trey Carpenter iPhone Pocket Paul’s analogy Gruber’s post iPod Socks On eBay New Steam Hardware Initial coverage Image of the new devices Announcement video Digital Foundry’s coverage Dave2D’s coverage Steam Controller TMR not Hall Effect Understanding the difference Steam Machine Images on The Verge Steam Frame More photos Post-show: Marco goes to Home Depot Members-only ATP Overtime: Affinity graphics apps go free, and some people are upset Press release

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Pre-show: Casey dropped his 17 Pro ?? The ATP Holiday Store is back! Order before 9 November! ?? T568A & T568B Idea courtesy Adam Brandon Don?t Stop Believin?? An aside about podcast chapters and Apple’s recent news Follow-up: The current MacBook Pro design is from the M1 (via Ben Mattison) More dashed Mac Pro dreams Apple’s internal chip codename nomenclature Variants P = A_ G = A_X / A_Z / M_ S = M_ Pro C = M_ Max D = M_ Ultra X = M_ Pro/Max/Ultra Examples A11 = H10P A12X = H11G A14 = H13P M1 = H13G M2 Pro = H14S GPUs use G instead of H More island/chip names from 26.1 RC: Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/System/Library/Frameworks/Kernel.framework/Versions/A/Headers/arm/cpuid.h Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/usr/include/mach/machine.h Apple codenames John’s tale of Xcode 26.1 woe John’s un-fixed Electron apps More clipboard history options in macOS 26.1 M5 MacBook Pro speed tests MaxTech Casey has tried the new Developer Strap Accessibility ? Audio & Visual ? Balance An aside about nanotexture displays Marco’s current iPad paper-texture overlay Casey upgraded to Tahoe Funky sidebar icon /r/overcast Under the Radar #330: Engaging with Reddit Meltdown in the ProCreate subreddit over a painting of Master Chief Post-show: Marco plays with 3D printing Tinkercad Bambu Eric Welander’s video about Gridfinity Toybox Members-only ATP Overtime: Joanna Stern tries Neo, the household “robot” WSJ Article (or On Apple News+) QWOP

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Pre-show: Marco’s airplane neighbors Flighty ?? The ATP Holiday Store is back! Order before 9 November! ?? T568A & T568B Idea courtesy Adam Brandon Follow-up: Vision Pro Mac Virtual Display On Intel it’s only up to 3K ? (via Thomas Cheng) Apple Support Tapping-and-holding × allows for hiding other windows (via Nick Anthony) Vision Pro vs. ski goggles Apple ? Vapor Chambers Would it come to the MacBook Air (via Andy Lang) Coming to the iPad Pro? Apple’s MLS deal ?is worldwide; not US-only Apple advertises in Korea (via Jake Lee) John’s Shortcuts bug Calum’s example Fleedar’s example lukens77 on Reddit (via eurozerozero) Is it all Shortcuts-related files? Possible fix from gleeful Overwrite If File Exists Fixing the “iconic plateau” (via Gordon Mcdowell) The Cheesecake Factory does, apparently, make everything fresh ATP Inside: The Restaurant, Season One Cube Rule Mac Rumors M6/OLED MacBook Pro? Previously from Mark Gurman Brendan Shanks’ discovery ?OS 26 ?4 includes Liquid Glass toggle iOS/iPadOS: Settings ? Display and Brightness macOS: System Settings ? Appearance Example image Lock Screen swipe for camera can now be disabled, too Settings ? Camera ? Lock Screen Swipe to Open Camera Is Tahoe safe yet? The Electron bug Fixes are rolling out Detector app by Tomas Kafka, via Craig Hockenberry Status of popular apps Post-show: More of John’s impressions of the Vision Pro Members-only ATP Overtime: How does one actually make an app? (via not that coach mike)

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Pre-show: More people have been infected by Goose ?? New ATP Members’ Special: ATP Insider: The Restaurant, Season One ?? An aside about outerwear ?? The ATP Holiday Store is back! Order before 9 November! ?? T568A & T568B Idea courtesy Adam Brandon Follow-up: Recognition corner Casey begs for help Callsheet List bug (FB17661404) is fixed in 26.1 ? However, Menu(::primaryAction:) is broken (FB20755661) Some M5 Vision Pro clarifications The M5 does have Memory Integrity Enforcement The M5 MacBook pro without a charger is actually cheaper in most regions EU is ?100 cheaper without / ?35 with (via Nick Heer) UK is the same though The non-determinism of LLMs (via Heiko Hotz) New chat Mira Murati’s company piece discussing non-determinism The M5 Vision Pro Dual Knit Band HDCP Television Theater New Developer Strap (behind Apple Developer paywall) MacRumors coverage Post-show: John’s weird Finder animation bug AVIF Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple ?? F1 in ?? Previous offerings Apple’s bespoke F1 camera Wired’s coverage Apple’s F1-themed WWDC intro

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Follow-up: Languages in Scotland ATP merch has more benefits (via Christian Heiler) Slide Over fade animation (via Daniel Luz) Marco’s iPhone case survey: Ryan London bare bottom (via Oliver Thomas) /u/LaughingMan11 is Benson Leung (via Deta & Daniel Luz) ZFS and the Drobo dream (via Joe) AnyRAID for ZFS Explained for Dummies Hexos announcement An aside for an argument Apple M5 M5 Pro, M5 Max, TSMC’s SoIC Ming-Chi Kuo Chip on Wafter on Surface Integrated Fan-Out Package-on-Package M5 MacBook Pro
MacRumors on the [lack of] power adapter Numerama M5 iPad Pro M5 Vision Pro The Verge compares refresh rates Sorry, no trade-ins Logitech Muse spatial stylus Apple TV+ is now Apple TV F1: The Movie announcement post Eddie Cue on The Town podcast New icon Post-show: iPhone setup, take two Skip all the Siri/FaceID/etc things until setup is complete Don’t try to memorize the flashing 6-digit code; choose another way Members-only ATP Overtime: Alexa Plus in the real world Jennifer Patterson Tuohy “Temperature” on LLMs Nilay’s take

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Pre-show: Marco’s “Vacation” results Goose Goose @ Richmond Allianz Ampitheater, 3 October 2025 Allianz Ampitheater Chicken Salad Chick Nugs.net ZZQ Suggestions from Casey, in no particular order: Hungersite Give it Time How it Ends Dripfield Follow-up: ATP in the wild Original report form Richard Earney Follow-up by Matt Smith Follow-up on Mark Christian’s report by Santiago Hervella AirPods 3 Ear Lottery Michael corroborates Marco’s experience ?but Franklin Delano Stallone offers hope ?and sometimes AirPods 3 are a marked improvement, reports Matthew Schaffer Tony Dehnke does an ANC comparison Live translation results David Schaub’s horror story about filling up your phone Mike Taffet does science on iPhone ? iPhone transfers Marco’s USB odyssey Jack Wellborn had a similar experience Syd Polk wonders if it’s a Sequoia thing (Among others) Fabien theorizes its’ an alignment thing Keith Heaton brought receipts Tailgate Tub Active vs. passive Thunderbolt cables OWC Informative Reddit comment by LaughingMan11 Synology alternatives Colin McKellar suggests QNAP See also: UGREEN Unraid FreeNAS/TrueNAS ? ? ?may not be necessary anymore! ? Coverage from Guru3D SpaceRex on YouTube Lee Hutchinson at Ars Technica More more first impressions Quick AirPods Pro 3 update iPhone case updates Omar Shahine performs surgery on the Nomad back Torras clear case Bullstrap open-bottom leather case Peak Design Everyday Case (Charcoal color has the good fabric) Still to test: Süti PhoneBack in black leather, if it ever ships iOS 16 iPadOS 26: Now with slide-over! Apple pulls ICEBlock from the App Store Previously, in Hong Kong Tim’s explanation Response letter Reuters’ take MJ Tsai Gurman on Apple succession Post-show: Pour one a Sprite out for a real one TiVo Channels AOL dialup service ends Members-only ATP Overtime: The Meta Ray-Ban Display, and Apple’s response The Verge Gurman: Apple pivots

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Pre-show: Eh, that’ll keep? M5 iPad Pro FCC leaks ?? St. Jude time is almost done! ?? Supporting Action for Emergency Response Lebanon case study Global crisis repsonse blueprint ?? New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Dev: Computer Science Curriculum Follow-up: ATP in the wild (via Mark Christian & Richard Earney) iOS 26.0.1 allegedly fixes N1 Wi-Fi/BT issues CarlinKit wireless CarPlay dongle What does iCloud back up? (via Dayton Lovell) iCloud for Messages A ringing endorsement from Nick A potential fix for ? GIFs (via Nathan) iPhone Transfers Why not pre-populate them, Kindle-style? (via Winnie Lewis) TestFlight is? better now? (via Daniel Nelson) Some thoughts from Nick Apple’s onboarding enshittification (via Imthaz) Thought to text & AlterEgo Firefox (1982) Prior MIT project (via Hannes) CJ’s thoughts Preview video EMG EEG More first impressions TechWoven cases Tina’s Bullstrap case Bullstrap wallet Stephen Robles leather iPhone case review Nomad Magnetic leather back Marco’s video of the flaw iPhone 17 AirPods Pro 3 Erin’s Audio Corner The Headphone Show The Harman Curve Ask ATP: How do we really know if something is encrypted? (via Joshua Wold) What is the point of neural engine cores, anyway? (via Tom Cole) SIMD Evaluating the Apple Silicon M-Series SoCs for HPC Performance & Efficiency AMX Units Neural Engine Does filling a phone SSD slaughter performance? (via Sean Harding) Post-show: Marco’s USB odyssey CalDigit Thunderbolt Element 4 BLE caberQu Members-only ATP Overtime: NAS Noodling Synology [sorta] says third-party drives will be supported in the future Synology Solution Day 2025 teaser video Ubiquiti’s new NAS units UNAS 2 UNAS 4

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Marco’s AppleCare “Express” Replacement ?? It’s St. Jude time again! ?? The Marco Offset Podcastathon 2025 Follow-up: Auburn’s colors are UVA’s colors (via Tony Scida) You don’t need the trick new Apple charger to charge an iPhone 17 at full speed iPhone Air Why people are buying the iPhone Air / 15” MacBook Air Bending the iPhone Air Apple (via Tom’s Guide) Direct video link JerryRigEverything (timestamp link to 6m35s) Same video, different timestamp (7m37s) Battery life Mr. Whose the Boss The Tech Chap Tom’s Guide Speaker (via Steve Troughton-Smith) Thermals MaxTech iFixIt Teardown Thickness Visual comparison of thickness (via Ludwig Schubert) Thin iPhone future? (via Ian) iPhone 17 Pro Teardowns REWA Technology All the screws 17 vs. 16 17 Pro internals Vapor chamber Logic boards Vapor chambers explained Max Tech Scratches on the back? More images from MacRumors And from Watson JerryRigEverything iPhone sales The Information (MacRumors summary) iPhone setup advice Casey’s tale of woe (see also Upgrade #582: First Chance to Make One Impression) First impressions: iPhone 17 Pro Scratchability Telephoto camera iPhone 16 Pro 5× vs. iPhone 17 Pro 8× Post-show: HP M553 HP M554 Members-only ATP Overtime: Anthropic’s $1.5B book piracy settlement The Verge: Settlement announced, 5 September Previously, on ATP #656: Anthropic asked for $1.5B/yr from Apple The Verge: Settlement paused, 9 September Ars Technica, 9 September

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Marco 0?? ? 1?? ?? It’s St. Jude time again! ?? Podcastathon 2025: Friday, noon ? midnight EDT Stephen Hackett said the foldable will be the “iPhone Ultra” ?m is a “micron” The iPhone Air battery pack does have a USB-C port after all iPhone 17 Pro requires a new adapter to charge at full speed Apple 40W Dynamic Power Adapter Anker Nano 45W charger A19 vs. A19 Pro A19 Pro benchmarks The N1 is in every new iPhone The whole of the iPhone Air is in the camera plateau Large image Casey’s memory problems corner ATP #655 (Overcast timestamp link) The mmWave antenna window is back Background Logo placement on Apple’s cases Clear Case with MagSafe TechWoven Case with MagSafe Some funny renders from iPhone case makers Theories about the iPhone 17 Pro colors Every masterpiece has its cheap copy Luke Skywalker University of Virginia Denver Broncos Auburn University 2021 impactful boosters iPhone Air Will it bend? Joz (& Ternus) with an incredible [lack of] flex 17 was a last-second decision? (via Sam Henri Gold) Max Tech’s discoveries The Air does not have stereo speakers The Dynamic Island is lower than on other phones The USB-C port is not vertically centered Image No Cinematic Mode video, including the selfie camera The new selfie camera is actually a 24MP sensor No LiDAR scanner Air & 17 non-Pro are limited to USB 2 USB 2.0 Every new iPhone screen has the same specifications, save size/resolution Apple iPhone comparison page iPhones 17 can now toggle screen flickering off Pulse-width modulation 9to5Mac’s coverage PWM sensitive subreddit Apple Watch Satellite data requires a cellular plan Jason & Greg Pierce agree Is “24-hour” battery claim because of a change in measurement? Underscore’s observations about the Ultra Apple Watch battery AirPods Ear shapes (via Tirial) About that “2×” noise reduction AirPods product page The new AirPods Pro case is not smaller “New generation of Ultra Wideband technology” is the U2 chip Live translation is on-device (not in ??) Live translation is blocked for EU users with EU Apple Accounts Apple feature availability Safari on iOS 26’s compact toolbar Tahoe Toolbars (via Zhenyi Tan) * Frosting download link * Frosting test page Post-show: John’s red dot Members-only ATP Overtime: Alterego and “thought to text” translation How artificial intelligence gave a paralyzed woman her voice back A high-performance neuroprosthesis for speech decoding and avatar control Meet the Little Brain Region that Helps You Say What’s on Your Mind Speech sequencing in the human precentral gyrus Scientists develop interface that “reads” thoughts from speech-impaired patients Alterego

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?? It’s St. Jude time again! ?? The Marco Offset iPhone event AirPods Pro 3 Apple Watch Series 11 No new System-in-Package? Whoop Band Apple Watch SE 3 Apple Watch Ultra 3 LTPO Satellite can-kicking continues iPhone 17 Memory Integrity Enforcement iPhone Air iPhone Air MagSafe Battery ? iPhone 17 Pro & Pro Max Software ship dates Post-show: Apple trade-in ? Tina’s dream has come true! ? Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s competing implementations for the new Siri Gurman, 13 August Gurman, 22 August Gurman, 3 September

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Pre-Show: Trouble in Razer paradise ?? It’s St. Jude time again! ?? The Marco Offset Follow-up: Casey has thoughts about the compact iOS 26 controls in Safari Settings ? Apps ? Safari Apple device advice for those that are athletically engaged Place your phone face-down (via. A. O.) Sleep focus is an option (via A. M.) So is Theater Mode and, if taps are an issue, water lock (via Ryan) How to stop Siri from randomly activating all the damn time by D. Griffin Jones Fun fact: you can add it to the Health app! (via Niv Ben-Porath) ?but it won’t affect your rings A truly hilarious story from Anonymous Developing “product sense” (via Joseph Kibe) Productive Tensions by Christopher B. Bingham & Rory M. McDonald iPhone 16 exit interview Peltier device Obscura Halide iPhone event preview Crossbody strap Apple Natural Titanium Milanese Loop (Marco’s summer watch band) Post-show: Smaller e-ink note-taking tablets reMarkable Paper Pro Move The Verge’s coverage Ars Technica’s coverage Supernote Nomad iFLYTEK AINOTE Air 2 Viwoods AiPaper Mini Members-only ATP Overtime: US government buys 10% of Intel Ars Technica New York Times The Verge Intel self-announces all the red flags

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Pre-Show: Casey and Marco are sad Ben Rice McCarthy Under the Radar Follow-up: ?? It’s St. Jude time again! ?? The Marco Offset Anonymous crushes the dreams of Marco and Casey about cellular MacBooks Another Anonymous shares a bit too much information about accidental Siri activations ? ? John’s AppleCare One update ? Help with Trackpad dragging System Settings ? Accessibility ? Pointer Control ? Trackpad Options? ? Dragging Style ? Three Finger Drag Screenshot ?or Drag Lock Masimo comes for [more] blood UK drops utterly bananas backdoor legislation Studio Display with A19 Daniel Luz points out makes a funny comparison to Macs Fabian Häusler theorizes it’s about binning Apple’s Hide my Email feature An unexpected wrinkle Timothy Martin points out Anecdote from David Beck Apple Event: 9 September 1PM OTTZ Interactive logo Still image for posterity Reverse-engineering by sam henri gold “TechWoven” and “Liquid Silicone” cases leaked Maijin Bu on TechWoven ?and on Liquid Silicone (and again) Apple will simplify the Camera Control button Ask ATP: What’s the ? between snapshots and backups? (via Phil Hirst) Hyperspace Why is Finder slow to delete files? (via Dan) How will Apple reconcile AI and carbon neutrality? (via Sam Hunt) Post-show: Some venting about politics and ?26. Jeff Atwood’s post John’s reply There’s nothing Republicans won’t ruin Members-only ATP Overtime: Rumored Apple roadmap Apple readies first upgrade to its struggling Vision Pro headset

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Pre-Show: AI slop vs. not? so? AI? slop AITAH Follow-up: Casey spends 24 hours with iOS 26 on his carry phone John’s dancing controls ?? Well, actually ??, myriad of is okay (via Jason Eccles) Merriam-Webster’s take Are size classes similar to today’s design changes? (via Bryan Guffey) Auto Layout John’s HomePod has risen from the dead! Nic’s Fix Watch John’s actual repair happen ? John would like to air some AppleCare One grievances ? John’s tantrum AppleCare One Terms & Conditions Blood oxygen with Apple Watch [sorta] returns to the US Gruber’s take Victoria Song at The Verge ?? M5 MacBook Pro with cellular is coming? ?? A19 Pro in Studio Display 2? Previously, in low-cost MacBook rumors: A18 Pro Your Mac game is probably rendering blurry CGDisplayCopyAllDisplayModes() FB13375033 Ask ATP: Should the name “Siri” be retired? (via Aaron Bushnell) Did Vehicle Motion Cues help John? (via Roly C.) How do we click our trackpads? (via Eli) Post-show: Oh yeah! ?? New ATP Members special: ATP Insider: Vacations ?? Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s research into using LLMs to make UIs Apple trained a LLM to teach itself good SwiftUI Research paper Stephen Robles’ video

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Pre-Show: Marco and Casey’s no-good, very bad days. Follow-up: Casey didn’t read the fine print on Express Replacement ????? Short Pump John cycled his mouse again AppleCare One Moving a device on a payment plan (via “Clark Griswold” and Anonymous) Tina’s iPhone Tina’s Mac Studio Tahoe beta 5: checkbox contrast improves iOS 26 beta 6 Liquid glass changes Smart TV interfaces over time “Shortcut” New Magic Remote Running your own mail server How does iCloud-on-your-domain work? (via potato.zip) Hide my Email (via Peter Puleio) Jason Diller thinks it’s not so bad Post-quantum cryptography Harvest now, decrypt later (via Lisa Ugray) Since iOS 17.4 for iMessage (via Saul Sutherland) Apple Security Research blog post Compelled adoption (via Brian Jarvis) Chrome adopted it in 2024 (via sayrer) 2024: State of post-quantum internet 2025: Update John wages war against icons Adopting Liquid Glass: App Icons WWDC 2025 #361: Create Icons with Icon Composer John’s Mastodon thread Václav Slavík’s solution FB19437407 FB19497128 FB17892659 There’s likely to be a lot more of this Ask ATP: Is Liquid Glass on macOS a subtle move toward touchscreen Macs? (via Daniel Liu) How does one build a “good product sense”? (via Ian Anderson) Inspired by Marty Cagan How does one effectively de-duplicate photos using Photos.app? (via Keith Heaton) Post-show: Marco’s air-conditioning “update” Members-only ATP Overtime: AI voice control as a threat to Apple’s platforms Apple’s Upcoming AI Voice Control will Change how People Use iPhones

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Pre-Show: Brief vacation results Tim Cook kisses the? ring Video Follow-up: HDTVTest reviews Sony Bravia 8 II and Panasonic Z95B TV shootout results Nilay’s comments AppleCare One iCareCalculator Reddit post (removed by moderators) iCare Calculator web app John’s experience B&H Casey’s roughly equivalent Mac, available for special order Retro computing corner Revisiting eWorld More on Tahoe Gus Mueller ?on checkboxes ?on sliders Beta 5 improves selection legibility Ejecting USB storage in Windows (via Justin Bradford) Bleeping computer Art & science of UI design Game design concepts in software (via Wes Davis) iPhone 17’s rumored new MagSafe design Majin Bu iPhone 16 Apple’s “Answers” team Ask ATP: How can one improve the experience of a permanent-mount SSD on a laptop? Jettison Why is Xcode so thirsty? (via Geoff) Time Machine local snapshots Deleting snapshots with Disk Utility DevCleaner (App Store link) Github GrandPerspective Disk Inventory X DaisyDisk How are we dealing with spam? (via Alan Bailward) SpamSieve MailRoute Fastmail Post-show: Apple Express Replacement Members-only ATP Overtime: Post-Quantum Cryptography networking in the ?26 OSes Prepare your network for quantum-secure encryption in TLS

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Pre-Show: Casey’s french-fry problem Follow-up: D. Griffin Jones takes one for the team Casey’s struggles with iperf3 Tutorial iperf3 -t 60 -c {ip} -P 4 -i 10 -R John’s new toaster and E01 (via J-P Teti & John F.) Chemical vs. physical sunscreen (via Prodan Statev) Research paper Apple security for unreleased devices Low-cost Apple laptop (via Jason Anthony Guy) Ed: Please don’t give Apple ideas like this. ? Getting customer support from Apple (via Patch) Apple support app ? Chat Any retail store on Apple Maps ? ... ? Message CloudFlare & AI crawlers Thoughts from Thomas Schoffelen Thoughts from Aaron Zinck Thoughts from Anonymous JA3/JA4 fingerprint The ?26 public betas are out Under the Radar #323: The Tidal Wave Tahoe beta 4 Contrast will decrease until morale improves Startup disk selection (cropped) Startup disk selection (full) News summaries are back, baby! ? Apple and interfaces Tog in Interface (1992) Amazon NNG Tog on Software Design (1995) Amazon NNG Apple’s Aqua introduction, Macworld San Francisco, 2000 AppleCare One Dan Moren’s take The Verge Fees & deductibles FAQ (scroll way down) Post-show: John has an addendum to his earlier topic Members-only ATP Overtime: Frame of preference, an incredible exploration of the Mac’s settings by Marcin Wichary in concert with Mihai Parparita of the Infinite Mac Project Marcin’s announcement Mihai’s associated announcement Embed Infinite Mac Infinite Mac Construction Set

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Pre-Show: Casey did Marco’s favorite thing CalDigit TS5+ (affiliate link) CalDigit TS5+ (product page) iperf3 Follow-up: F1 (the sport, not the movie) Apple expected to win ?? rights F1 TV Vroom John’s video != Casey’s immersive ride-along To see the immersive ride-along, you need to be wearing a Vision Pro; scroll down on that link John’s toaster update AirPods & AppleCare+ Keratoconus Water resistance IP54 AirPods Express Replacement Service B&H Reverting to “normal” tabs in Tahoe (via ST-S) defaults write -g NSSolariumWindowTabs -bool NO Low-cost Apple laptop with A18 Pro mandonam Apple sues leaker Jon Prosser for stealing iOS secrets 99% Invisible #626: Emoji Law Gruber’s theorized redactions Gruber’s predictions Cloudflare Declares Content Independence Day Press release ChangeDetection.io Stratechery (paywalled) Post-show: Marco solved sunscreen John?s hat that he likes John?s hat that is cheaper but that he likes less ?? Skin Aqua Super Moisture UV Gel (eBay) ?? La Roche-Posay Anthelios UVmune 400 Invisible Fluid, Non-Perfumed (eBay) Australian sunscreen video Members-only ATP Overtime: Is copying Apple hardware a good idea? Kuycon G32P 6K 32” IPS monitor Video review by Oliur / UltraLinx ASUS 32” 6K ProArt display Previously on ATP overtime D. Griffin Jones’ review of the 5K Studio Display Mark II coming in early 2026?

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Pre-Show: Live music & failed air conditioners ?? New ATP Members Special: Tier List: Pizza Toppings Follow-up: Meta Hires Top Apple AI Models Executive SFSymbols ?? Tahoe Folders Standard SFSymbol: xattr -w 'com.apple.icon.folder#S' '{"sym":"camera.viewfinder"}' folder Private SFSymbol: xattr-w 'com.apple.icon.folder#S' '{"sym":"solar.system"}' folder Random string: xattr -w 'com.apple.icon.folder#S' '{"emoji": "HIMOM"}' folder FB18022272: “summary” symbol missing in SF Symbols 7 developer beta Toolbars Safari Beta 1 image Beta 3 image The Guardian (good example for messing around with the toolbar) Terminal Beta 1 image Beta 3 image iOS 26 Beta 3 Direct video link _David Smith’s beta 2 (?) video Stephen Hackett’s beta 3 video Matt Birchler: Liquid glass, now with frosted tips Steve Troughton-Smith pours water on the fire YouTube’s new player UI “Clear” iPhone mock-up was by Gavin Nelson in April 2025 HDR controls in iOS 26 (via Gui Rambo) Demo project ?? out, Jeff Williams Gruber Gurman Casey ponders the purpose of AppleCare Casey in Dongletown Post-show: John & Casey review F1 Plumber Problem Guenther Steiner Brad Pitt drives a F1 car for the first time Vision Pro Brad Pitt ride-along (Vision Pro users, scroll down) Casey’s pinball machine Members-only ATP Overtime: 2020 Hindsight John Giannandrea

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Pre-Show: John’s almost an empty-nester ? Reconcilable Differences Follow-up: FireWire now with Thunderbolt! (via Timo Hetzel) Tahoe without Xcode beta: Device Support for macOS 26 Beta Developer downloads ? Direct link Putting older OSes on newer hardware (via Gui Rambo) UPS VA ratings (via Marshall C) Apple’s LLM/LRM paper (from Overtime in ATP #643) Training data vs. distribution (via Deon Garrett) Rebuttal Rebuttal of the rebuttal More from Gary Marcus The original rebuttal was? a joke? ? HDR in ?26 iPadOS 26 window limits “Glass iPhone” demo ? Direct video link That “natural language to CLI” app is Substage Apple plans to launch a low-cost MacBook powered by? an iPhone CPU? Apple A18 References spotted in code Jason on A18 speed Stephen on the technical limitations Ask ATP: Is adding permanent NVMe storage a bad plan? (via Neil) CalDigit TS5+ What’s the best way to increase “internal” storage on a Mac? iSCSI? Mounted disc images? (via Patrick Harms) Atto Xtend SAN How does a new grad land a job? Post-show: Casey’s approach to ad-free YouTube must be dissected YouTube Premium Lite Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s App Store changes for the EU Jason’s coverage Store Services tiers in the EU Gruber’s summary Cranky man remains cranky Steve Troughton-Smith’s take The Verge

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Pre-Show: John has made an important purchase 11 June 2011 Documentation of the journey (spoilers!) John’s beloved Ninja Anova After Dark Follow-up: We’re doing good work here, folks YoLink leak sensors Leak sensor 4-pack with compulsory hub Travel insurance is more than you think it is (via Jason Poole and Levi Dalton) Allianz concierge Window widget size in Tahoe Apple Intelligence is now allowed when booting from an external in Tahoe beta 2 Floating tab bars in iOS 26 Apple “Ducks” The Architect’s Lions Maybe don’t yank out removable storage in Windows either (via Adrian Mester) It’s the world that’s wrong, not me: iPhone 16 Pro case edition “We Messed Up” Bullstrap open-bottom case Ads in YouTube Why not use uBlock Origin? (via Igor Kulman) ?or perhaps Vinegar (App Store link) (via Michael Brown) RIP FireWire Apple marketing continues to misfire Apple weighs using Anthropic or OpenAI to power Siri OpenAI/Meta leadership talent rivalry Ask ATP: Is it worth buying a laptop where Tahoe is preinstalled? (via François-Olivier Leblanc) How much faster will an M4 be than an M1 for Xcode Simulator launches? (via Alistair Logie) How do we choose a new UPS? (via David Levine) John’s pick Casey’s pick ATP #569 Eaton UPSes Post-show: Marco restaurant-tech MVPs? from his co-hosts! Tailscale (Tailscale is a prior sponsor) Casey’s introductory post Tailscale 4via6 YoLink temperature sensors (even cheaper with a smaller temp. range) Thermoworks VHB Tape Eve Room Members-only ATP Overtime: Should we pay developers like athletes? Sam Altman claims Meta has made $100M offers Jack Altman’s podcast Reuters coverage

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Pre-Show: Phish & Wabbit Dave Matthews Season Allianz Ampitheater at Riverfront Belkin UltraGlass 2 Some Administrivia: ?? New ATP Member’s special: ATP Movie Club: Sneakers ?? Sneakers (1992) ATP Performance Shirt Inventory Sale Follow-up: Persistent icon replacement helper apps Pictogram Replacicon Tahoe beta 2 Finder icon updated! Louie Mantia tries again New menu bar background setting! Beta 2, with background Tahoe’s [Not-So-] Naked Robotic Menu Bar (via Vítor) Beta 1, gray Beta 1, red Beta 1, white Safari toolbars (via Lewis Dorigo) Settings ? Advanced ? Show color in compact tab bar <meta name="theme-color"> theme_color Yosemite Safari tabs From John’s review Installing betas and DFU mode macvdmtool (via Robert Sherry) DFU Blaster (via Brian LaShomb) InstallAssistant.pkg (via Andy Beyer-Bowden) iOS 26 Beta 2 Frost all the things! The case of Marco’s missing download/check buttons Roman’s observation iPadOS 26 window limits (via Jon Edwards) “Apple Vision Pro 4K” (via Greg Kaplan) visionOS what’s new 2048 Threes All your data are belong to AI companies Apple training models on Feedback attachments ?_? Original report from Joachim Meta AI staffers take an interesting approach New York Times ?? Amazon AI You can train AI models without copyrighted material? it’s just a pain in the ? Anthropic gets a W? maybe? Ask ATP: Does Marco use Apple CarKey? His car should support it. (via Samuel Polay) CarPlay Ultra partners list is looking? sparse Ferrari keyfob Why does macOS want USB mass storage ejected, but iPadOS doesn’t? (via David Campbell) Post-show: TV Update for Marco RTINGS: Sony Bravia 8 II review RTINGS: Bravia 8 II vs. A95L LG G5 RTINGS: LG G5 review HDTVTest: LG G5 review RTINGS: LG’s New Firmware for the G5 Members-only ATP Overtime: Overlap between appdev & gamedev Coyote time & jump buffering Secrets to a great platformer with Unity Destiny health Examples in our apps

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Pre-show: G4 Doorbell Pro Bespoke 3D-printed mount Fancy-schmancy Marco-recommended Flashlight What betas are we running? Virtual Buddy ?OS 26 & Version Numbers iOS Apps built against old SDKs get 19.0; new ones get 26.0 (via Gui Rambo) ProcessInfo /System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersionCompat.plist Tahoe returns 16 when reqiured for compatibility and 26 otherwise (via Howard Oakley) SYSTEM_VERSION_COMPAT=1 = 16 null or SYSTEM_VERSION_COMPAT=0 = 26 Liquid Glass Adopting Liquid Glass Don’t Liquid Glass All the Things Not present in macOS? (via Steve Troughton-Smith) Liquid Glass clone in Flutter (via Dave Wood) Fluid Glass in React (via Francisco Tolmasky) macOS Tahoe Whimsy returns! (via Minimal Nerd) Squircle Jail Squircle ? (via Yannic Lung) Say Hello to the New Look of App Icons Squircle Jailbreak! (via Simon B Støvring) Speaking of rounded corners? Build an AppKit App with the New Design Chonky stoplights macOS 26 window control buttons are no longer smol (via Avi Drissman) -[NSTitledFrame sizeOfTitlebarButtons] Missing title bars Missing menu bar fixes GlassBar Boring Old Menu Bar Alignment Tahoe dialog Tahoe dialog, center-icon mockup Left-aligned title bar text images Finder icon controversy Stephen tried Icon Composer with solid results Michael Flarup D. Griffin Jones Icons next to menu items Previously in the HIG (via Stefan Habel) Today in the HIG Tabs contrast Terminal tabs Safari contrast Ridiculous pink in the toolbar in Safari Arrow cursor has been updated Discovery by Nathan Manceaux-Panot Hand cursor as well Floating elements & compartmentalization Screenshot We all float down here Mario Alberto Guzmán’s observations Steve Troughton-Smith’s observations Clipboard history Stephen Robles Overview video Future of Rosetta Ars Technica New disk image format: ASIF Howard Oakley write-up iOS 26 UI impressions New slider thumbs reveal new info (via Niki Tonsky) Video iPadOS 26 Open window limits (via Steve Troughton-Smith) Previously, in Mac OS X 10.0? Slideover is ? UI impressions Testing Liquid Glass UIDesignRequiresCompatibility Vision Pro 4K? (via Steve Troughton-Smith) Post-show: WWDC Favorites Apple’s transcription APIs John Voorhees’s write-up Yap Generable SwitchGlass Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple snubbed Gruber, so who got the nod? Interview roundup on MacRumors Joanna Stern 7-minute excerpt Full 24-minute interview Mark from Tom’s Guide & Lance from TechRadar

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Pre-show: Initial Switch 2 Reactions Mario Kart World WWDC F1 Sam Henri Gold Marcel Flighty Parcel Control Plane Acorn Post-show: RIP, John’s Mac Pro Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s latest paper on the limitations of LLMs Previously discussed on ATP #609 GaryMarcus’ blog post which quotes a summary from Josh Wolfe Gary’s 1998 paper Gary’s 2001 book

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Follow-up: Apple “emergency” App Store appeal denied Additional lighting solution (via Nathanial) macOS 26: Tahoe? macOS 26 supported hardware Laurene Powell Jobs & Jony Ive interview MacRumors coverage Molly White’s newsletter Polycom “star”/”spider” phones Vision Pro & John Siracusa Corner Bono: Stories of Surrender Open: An Autobiography Rattle and Hum Apple Immersive Screenshots: Crowd Stadium TV PSA: Plex privacy opt-out Apple/SwiftUI folks: a quick appeal, if you please Casey’s toot FB17661404 WWDC hopes & predictions Greg Jozwiak’s tweet Physicality: The new age of UI by Sebastiaan de With Windows Aero Newton’s cradle Sendable Post-show: Apple declines invitation to The Talk Show Live Retreating to Safety Something Is Rotten in the State of Cupertino Members-only ATP Overtime: Sky: a new AI app for macOS Federico’s exclusive Stu Maschewitz’s take Software Applications Incorporated

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Pre-show: ATP’s relationship with Apple Five Whys Follow-up: SSD longevity details from an anonymous SSD firmware engineer Vision Pro on The Price is Right What are Jony Ive and Sam Altman building? Ming-Chi Quo’s opinion Upgrade #565: The Scent of Humane Alexa Plus Update Neutral: Slate Truck Top Gear review TELO, a potential Slate competitor (via Kevin Ayers) There’s a Discord (via Kevin Cash) DeMuro’s review Classic Mini vs. Modern MINI Pickup beds over time Apple Turnover and Apple Turnaround ATP #639: Crimp the World Terry Pratchett?s Boots theory Apple?s ?Back to the Mac? event from 2010 Post-show: More restaurant-tech MVPs DeWalt LED Work Light DeWalt Tire Inflator DeWalt 60V Blower Zip-Tie Screw Mounts 3M VHB Tape Waveform Lighting power supply, dimmer, and Dim-to-Warm LED strip (optional diffusing channels) Knipex Wire Stripper Wago Connectors Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple OS rebranding & macOS name predictions

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Pre-show: ?? New ATP Member Special: ATP Top Four: Game Consoles ?? Follow-up: Home Networking Corner ?? Vision Pro Corner How I use my AVP to retrofit Unifi Access Points in finished homes SSDs and long-term storage was covered on Security Now #1023 (via Paul Chernoff) SpinRite (Intel-only) Fornite is back in the US App Store App Store link Judge YGR’s filing Apple ?? Epic Epic courts Apple developers Gurman on the Apple Intelligence fiasco Previously on ATP The EU App Store warning about external purchases isn’t new after all Apple documentation Apple to open AI models to developers? OpenAI buys Jony Ive’s AI company, io Sam and Jony Gurman’s coverage Ask ATP: What was our favorite school camp/trip? (via Harrison) FBLA Disc camera What’s the deal with the tire markings on the bootleg cover art? (via Josh Kincaid) Show art Wheel size explained Is there a good camera lens that’s also light? (via Matt Richardson) Matt on Instagram Pancake lens Fuji GFX 100RF APS-C LensRentals Sony RX100 Ricoh GR IIIx Post-show Neutral: CarPlay Ultra Top Gear review Previously on ATP The Vergecast Members-only ATP Overtime: Meanwhile, in Europe? European Commission fines Apple & Meta for breaching DMA Gruber did the math New smartphone labels for battery life & repairability Official release Nutrition label Energy Star

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Pre-show: Marco’s [kinda] brief review of the M4 MacBook Pro CalDigit TS5 Follow-up: Letterboxd SF Symbol Procured via volunteer Alyce D! ? Custom Symbols App (App Store link) AI App Store summaries != spam email filtering (via Kevin Markham) “A fine is a price” (via Kieran Healy) A Fine is a Price by Gneezy & Rustichini Apple ?? Anthropic Apple appeals App Store rule changes Riley Testut details changes to Delta’s IAP options More (Ed: ???) Meanwhile, in the App Store? Home networking corner Ubiquiti’s consumer line is Amplifi Try CubiCasa for floor plans (via Colin Robertson) What Unifi Stuff Should I Buy? (via Thunder God Cid) Casey’s sitrep 2× U6-LR installed Ugly PoE injectors 10GbE card installed in Synology Switches just arrived Lite 8 PoE Flex Mini Camera time? Apple Turnover The Art of the Possible Hypercritical #42: The Wrong Guy Upgrade #563: Peanut or a Banana Some fun Apple media Search Engine: The Dave and Busters Anomaly Gui Rambo’s investigation A conversation with Jony Ive Backblaze drama
Backblaze is a former ATP sponsor Morpheus Research report Backblaze’s initial response Backblaze’s formal response Profit breakdowns Post-show: More restaurant-tech MVPs Cable Matters Marco’s crimping toolkit Members-only ATP Overtime: SSD data doesn’t last forever Video M-DISC

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Pre-show: Chromebook-block evasions Follow-up: At least one person did miss our WWDC sale. ? Vision Pro Corner: StagePlay Blue Man Group Epic vs. Apple The Verge on Apple’s decision making Apple’s Response Apple Appeals App Store rules have been changed MJ Tsai’s Roundup Ryan Jones Gruber Upgrade #562: Let’s Break the Law Tim Sweeney continues grandstanding Fortnite may be coming back? via ??? Epic Games announces plans for a shop for iOS developers Press release As was foretold, Stripe has entered the chat Stripe documentation Patreon has also entered the chat Friend of the show Riley Testut works fast Spotify has also entered the chat Screenshots Ubiquiti Marco Recommendations Cloud Gateway Max Switch Ultra U7 Lite Cloud Gateway Fiber changedetection.io Pushover magicplan Ubiquiti Designer Hyperspace update Casey’s Coding Corner Vibe coding journey GIFWrapped Casey on Bluesky SF Symbols journey Post-show: Marco’s vibe coding journey LaTeX Members-only ATP Overtime: Vision Pro successor rumors “Vision Air” XREAL glasses

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Pre-show: Marco reaches another milestone ThinOptics round clear New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Insider: School, Then and Now Follow-up: A surprising Vision Pro corner: Adventure: Hill Climb Laura’s Hot Lap Neutral Special: Please Lose Control of Your Car Now Laura Hayes Racing (archived) D. Griffin Jones reviews the Sigma BF Article Video John discusses the design of the Mac Pro iPadOS window affordances (via Ole Oskar Eriksen) Synology’s En?ification (via Erin Power) Server Part Deals Judge tells Apple “yeah, no” 9to5 Mac The Verge “Kafkaesque” Marco returns to YouTube reMarkable 2 Astropad iPad screen film & Apple Pencil tips Mac Power Users #789: Back to the Mac, with Matt Gemmell Supernote Manta Ask ATP: Is it even possible for Siri to get good? (via David MacQueen) Do we stll carry wallets? (via Stephen Klinck) John’s ridiculous wallet How do we share photos outside of a family unit? (Dylan Copeland) Post-show Neutral: Slate Truck Members-only ATP Overtime: AI continues to eat the world Apple Developer: What’s New Research paper LoRA not LoRa

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?? ATP WWDC 2025 STORE IS UP!! ?? Follow-up: Casey’s bug-reporting experience with Slack Third-party SSDs (via J. Mullins)
AliExpress AirPods Pro case swaps (via Steven Merrill) USB-C MagSafe Charging Case ($100??) Cursor IDE support hallucinates policy causing user uprising
(This is a Hacker News link to Reddit, so, uh, tread lightly.) ??? leaders are not good John continues to try to spend Marco’s money Rtings’ new glare testing LG G5 brightness Apple’s self-service repair program (via Sky Velleity) iPadOS 19 rumors Footguns and Synology Enshittification Ars Technica’s Synology coverage Post-show: Marco’s first batch of restaurant-tech MVPs Waveform lighting Ubiquiti Power over Ethernet Toast Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s AI doctor

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Pre-show: Casey’s lightly broken his AirPods Pro 2 Porsche Taycan Ioniq 5 BMW i4 Chevy Bolt ?? ATP WWDC 2025 STORE IS UP!! ?? Follow-up: 12 April: Trump excludes some electronics from tariffs Message from US Customs & Border Protection Connor Mason?s post about Tim Cook?s top two skills 13 April: ?except maybe not? John’s boosted post Cross-platform photo management Immich (via bapt) Nintendo Switch 2 4K 120Hz (via Kyle McMahon) Specifications Kickstand lumps (via Stuart Gibson) Other open-world racing games Console games price history Dropbox & File Provider John’s daughter’s college laptop Folding aspect ratios iPhone Mini? tri-fold? (via Peter Wagoner) MKBHD on the Huawei Mate XT Reverse-engineered Mac mini SSDs (via Jonathan Claydon) iBoff Introductory video How Apple fumbled Siri’s AI makeover MacRumors summary More on JG’s Siri leadership On Robby Walker Cross-towngroup tensions That fateful demo NIH syndrome New York Times on Apple GPU purchases Post-show: AI mind-share Members-only ATP Overtime: Sony announces its 2025 TVs FlatPanelsHD The Verge HDTVTest Pricing

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Pre-show: Technology Connections on dishwashers Maestral How to excise Dropbox Brave Firefox Kagi Orion Arc Palm Pre ?? ATP WWDC 2025 STORE IS UP!! ?? Old hoodie: Bella + Canvas 3909 New hoodie: Bella + Canvas 3729 Follow-up: Vision Pro corner: Voices of VR #1557: Apple Immersive Video BTS Adventure: Ice Dive VIP: Yankee Stadium Feedback on Feedback Some thoughts on scale (via Matthew Fenselau) Fermi Paradox Do indies really get that much email? A response from Apple? ? (via Vítor) Apple’s big OS redesign Mark Gurman Solarium iOS 19 Leak Front Page Tech video Nintendo Switch 2 launch Launch video Hands-on: The Verge Ars Technica The Joy-Cons are now mice Tweet microSD Express only Chunky hinges Pricing iPhone 17 Pro 48MP zoom lens Ask ATP: How do we source reviews of purchases? (via Robert Bateau) How do I back up my photos? ATP Insider: Photo Workflows How do we document complicated setups (via yertle) Post-show: How do we handle? everything? Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s all-glass hardware ambitions All-glass Apple Watch?

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Pre-show: ????? Happy Trans Day of Visibility! ????? Happy anniversary, Siracusa! ATP #476 Hypercritical: Independence Day Follow-up: Vision Pro corner: Volume control (via D. Griffin Jones & Victor Prieto) ? & ?? Prioritization (via Karan J) A less complementary take from Thom Holwerda More theories on behind-closed-doors talks (via illustro) Case document Will EU releases whither? (via David Shayer) An anecdote about John Giannandrea (via Wolf) Netflix in search on Apple TV (via Ryan Budish) Sony’s new RGB backlight tech shines Previously on ATP Digital Trends HDTVTest Folding MacBook? Giant iPad? Folding iPhones? Oh, my! Neo Cancellation Display sizes leak Weibo post Oppo Find N5 Under-screen Face ID? Weibo post “Six Things to Know About Apple’s Upcoming Foldable iPhone” MKBHD on the Oppo Find N5 Ask ATP: How do we approach feedback? Why are we held to different standards than Apple? Are smaller, incremental releases of software killing the joy of a new major version? (via Thom Bullock) Things You Should Never Do, Part I Post-show: Casey finally stops kicking another can Cloudflare Pages Cloudflare Pages Functions Example page Members-only ATP Overtime: Vibe coding Tim, don’t kill my vibe Cursor Replit v0 Gruber’s response Fourth-generation programming language Good Programming Quotes compiled by Henrik Warne UNIX shell as a fourth-generation language Swift Assist isn’t even in beta yet Apple (June 2024) John Voorhees did get a demo though kironet’s take

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Pre-show: Marco’s BMW sitrep ?? New ATP Member Special: ATP Insider: Our Websites Follow-up: Vision Pro corner Spatial Gallery has an update! Volume control (via Jonathan Gulbrandsen) Siri delays (via Stephen Klinck) Gurman on the smart home hub Apple sued over false Apple Intelligence advertising Siri shake-up Threads lets you default to following? for real this time iPhone 16e Camera arrangement justifications MKBHD doesn’t care for it Full review Teardown from REWA Teardown from iFixIt Battery size comparison 17e already appearing in supply chain? Weibo post iPhone 17 Pro: 12GB RAM? WWDC 2025 Announced EU requires major changes in iOS 19 & iOS 20 EU post Timelines Wi-Fi Aware Apple stamps its feet Portless iPhones coming? AI continues to eat the world Apple Developer: What’s New Post-show: Casey has to pay to play The Movie Database Members-only ATP Overtime: Solid-state cooling revisited Frore AirJet Frore ?? iodyne Dave 2D on a new solid-state fan system Ventiva CFM Pascals Increasing performance with heat management

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Pre-show: Casey received a present Follow-up: Vision Pro Corner: Metallica immersive concert Colorful Macs MacBook Adorable “Hidra” List of Apple codenames Hidra M3/M4 interposers (via Jonathan Dietz Jr.) M3 Max does not have a D2D (“die-to-die”) interface EE Times ?? Tech Insights ?nor does the M4 Max Reticle limits Apple Silicon info Google Sheet Apple’s multi-OS redesign (via Jon Tatum) Under the Radar #314: Optimism vs. Pessimism Something is Rotten in the State of Cupertino Apple confirms [one] Siri delay Upgrade #555: What You Are Is What You Ship SMOP: Simple Matter Of Programming Ask ATP: Do we set our phones on a surface face-up or face-down? (via Aaron Bushnell) What’s up with version numbers these days? (via Joe O’Connor) Semantic Versioning Post-show: Restaurant soft opening results Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple News+ Food Paprika

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Pre-show: Marco went to the bank wrong Follow-up: Vision Pro Corner New Adventure episode: Deep Water Solo Spatial Gallery Metallica immersive special is coming Virginia Tech ?? Enter Sandman iPad Air corner “2× bass” false alarm 404 Appeal Affordable big screen (notes John Spurlock) ?? ARE YOU LISTENING APPLE PEOPLE LIKE COLOR ?? (via Ryan Manly) Portrait-only iPad apps (via Matt Rippetoe) Example video from Fabian More on colors (via Yossi Kanner) MacBook Air’s keyboard has new mute iconography Regarding the “Hidra” ATP #562: Do You Have a Dragon? Interview with Srouji (timestamp link) Lernaean Hydra Gurman on the M4 Ultra & Hidra Early M3 Ultra benchmarks from Geekbench 6 GPU: M3 Ultra Metal: 259,668 10% faster than M2 Ultra Mac Studio’s best at 231,757 20% faster than M2 Ultra Mac Studio’s average at 209,003 CPU: M3 Ultra single core: 3,144 ~10% faster than M2 Ultra Mac Studio’s best at 2,813 ~20% slower than M4 Max MacBook Pro’s average at 3,921 M3 Ultra multi-core: 28,119 ~25% faster than M2 Ultra Mac Studio’s average at 21,373 ~10% faster than M4 Max MacBook Pro’s average at 25,647 More from Ars Technica Apple is working on a larger iMac? (AKA John tries to save face) ATP #473: Fanboats and Coattails (Overcast link to 1:31:16) Threads timeline setting update ATP #616: I Have No Grippers The Verge’s article (25 November 2024) Thoughts on Feedback Apple is allegedly “dramatically” redesigning the UI for its next OSes Post-show: John’s speaker update Vanatoo Transparent Zero Plus ADAM Audio D3V Kanto ORA Kanto S2 speaker stands Kanto ORA4 Kanto S4 speaker stands SoundSource Members-only ATP Overtime: Some Volkswagen news VW’s ID.Every1 Concept Physical buttons are coming back! ? ID.2all concept The Verge’s coverage Volvo ES90 Euro NCAP puts their foot down

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?? New ATP Member Special: ATP Tier List: Corporate Logos Tim Cook teaser History lesson Mac Studio General announcement M3 Ultra announcement M3 Ultra Ars Technica It is 2× M3 Max According to to ?? website: no interposer in M4 Max Gurman in April 2024 M4 MacBook Air Announcement iPad 6GB RAM, as was foretold Gurman misssed on this one iPad Air Announcement Audio regression? Post-show: Casey does free labor for Apple John’s computer speakers are dying ?? Possible replacement #1: Kanto ORA Possible replacement #2: Kanto ORA4 Members-only ATP Overtime: Siri is falling ever-further behind Next-gen Siri is delayed? (14 February) Apple Intelligence Reaches Make-or-Break Point? (3 March) Siri remains trash Amazon steps up to the AI plate Interview with Panos Panay

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Pre-show: Marco messed with the system Zoom F1 USB Pre 2 Schiit Jotunheim Follow-up: New “Boundless” immersive episode: Arctic Surfing Bono Autobiography Prospects for humanoid robots macOS testing (via Anonymous) With apologies to Joe Rosensteel Exhibit A Exhibit B Exhibit C Netflix’s Apple TV integration It’s more than just the app (via Serena) What purpose does the TV app serve? (via Daniel Luz) Implementation details (via Anonymous) iPhone 16e Name implications Possible role? (via Patch) Apple C1 MagSafe isn’t a problem No, really C1 is “just the start” Wendover video link It’s really quite impressive (via Pedro Fernandes) 0.0000000000000316 W Andru Edwards’ Behind-the-Scenes Tour Qualcomm licensure? (via Casey in episode 476 at around 40m) FTC vs. Qualcomm 2018 article on licensing costs The licensing costs were also lowered in 2018 Gurman on future Cx chips Apple investigates custom Wi-Fi chips as well Apple approves new wording for emails Not just in the EU Apple pulls Advanced Data Protection in the UK Full statement Screenshot Time for pressure (via Berbakay) ? Hyperspace is out!!! ? iPhone 17 camera bumps Leak Apple pledges $500B domestic spend Upgrade #552: Table for Six Woes in North Carolina Post-show: The Hyperspace icon Members-only ATP Overtime: New “Apple-like” camera: Sigma BF Introductory video PetaPixel’s first reaction L-Mount lens

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Pre-show: Restaurant adventures continue VoIP ATA Ubiquiti Managed VoIP Follow-up: Apple Account transfers Updated restrictions & guidelines Stephen’s take The UK’s no-good, very-bad law WSJ opinion piece by Green & Stamos Matthew Green’s blog post macOS UNIX compliance Goodbye, Humane. We hardly knew you. And you hardly knew anything. Jay Peters at The Verge Humane press release Humane support document iPhone 16e announced Intro video Apple TV app is now on Android Netflix and foot-guns The Verge, 14 February, 9:25 AM: Hell hath frozen over Screenshot of linking Netflix account Apple TV app The Verge, 14 February, 2:17 PM: Netflix says “our bad” Joe Rosensteel Post-show: An update on Casey’s status board Installation photo HomeSeer HS-WD200+ Dongle ZWave ZWaveJS UI Members-only ATP Overtime: Robots are, like, so in right now. Meta Bloomberg coverage Tesla As usual, Elon is a blowhard Google Apple Kuo’s tweet

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Follow-up: Flighty has other perks (via Stephen Klinck) First reports of Invites use in the wild (via Jim Weinert) You can use a cable with Sidecar (via Matt West) Why not use a Wi-Fi hotspot for “cellar Macs”? Tailgate Tub Why not AirPlay to Sonos speakers? (via Ryan Powers) DeepSeek censorship across models (via Sebastian Raschka) Technical report Has Apple ever? used? Screen Time? (via Jonathan) macOS UNIX certification (via Paulo Pinto) Thom at OSnews Migrate purchases from one Apple Account to another The new JoyCons do act as a mouse An alternative for Apple TV audio (via Nicholas Correnti) /r/TVTooHigh Casey’s new arrivals WS2812B Addressable LED strip Home is Where the Smart Is WLED ESP32 TRMNL Hyperspace updates Reclaim 1?? file for real! Slack An aside about bug reporting Apple ordered to open encrypted user accounts globally for the UK Original Washington Post article BBC coverage ELEGNT: Expressive & Functional Movement Design for Non-Anthropomorphic Robot Ask ATP: What planning/wireframing tools do we use? (via Glen Lam) Is HFS+ still relevant in 2025? (via Mike Hatfield) QNAP Would John tell us more about the many pieces of detritus associated with files? (via Leon Cowle) Post-show: Restaurant-tech update Dante Ubiquiti Flex (Useful little PoE switch) Ubiquiti Flex 2.5G PoE (2.5G version with 10G uplink) Ubiquiti Switch Flex XG (10G switch) Members-only ATP Overtime: iOS 19 UI rumors and the design language of Apple Invites Jon Prosser’s video Invites & Sports apps

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Pre-show: BBQ ZZQ Q Follow-up: New immersive video: Man vs. Beast “Historical Commission”? Sonos volume changes are local DeepSeek censorship mechanism (via Matthew Cave) Docker Rosetta (via Brian Reiter) Hypervisor.framework Docker vs. OrbStack (also via Brian Reiter) Sending email Mailhog (via Matt Barlow) Mailpit (via John Caruso) Maildev (via Yves Serrano) ddev.com (via Bram Esposito) Also consider Development Containers (via Dewald Reynecke) Marco’s TV audio sync issues Match Format and Match Dynamic Range (via Marco Arment) Quick Media Switching Previously on ATP? QMS marketing page Demo video (via Nit) Apple Invites App Store Web Competitive (and very similar) app Partiful It’s not great on Android Demo video from Stephen Robles Flighty Sorry, iPad Pornography on the iPhone AltStore’s post Riley’s response AltStore’s second response Jason’s take Ask ATP: Why are Casey and Marco so excited for cellular Macs? (via Matthew Fenselau) Should one use their personal Apple ID on a corporate Mac (via Stephen Swift) Localsend ?? Gruber ?? Underscore Luna Display Synergy Post-show: Marco had a good weekend. Dante Food Safety Talk Members-only ATP Overtime: Subsequent Sonos Stuff Sonos’ take on the Apple TV? Ventura OS? Sonos has another round of layoffs Letter from interim CEO Tom Conrad

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?? New ATP Movie Club Special! Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home Follow-up: Honda Prologue vs. GM equivalents (via Matt Rigby) Apple insists it’s still going to make fetch happen ship next-generation CarPlay Handheld gaming PCs are having a moment Lenovo Legion Go S Ryan London is trolling John Black Brown John has so much RAM, he can’t even remember how much he has Hyperspace scrolling updates AppKit vs. WebKit NSCell vs. NSTableViewCell Every UUID Writing down every UUID Not all phone jacks are created equal (via John Haydon) Casey’s notification/LED project Garage door ? home assistant was already sorted Home Assistant Nice G.O. integration ratgdo ESP32 ESPHome Did you know you can just straight-up cut some LED strips? (via Kiel Olesen) WS2812B Candy buttons Historical commission application process Switch replacement options: HomeSeer HS-WX300 (via Drew Stephens) Inovelli Smart Dimmer (via everyone, including Drew Stephens) DeepSeek causes a tech stock sell-off Siri Is Super Dumb and Getting Dumber Ben Thompson’s FAQ DeepSeek-V3 paper DeepSeek distilled GPT-4o? R1 is more open than OpenAI OpenAI’s justification for hiding chain of thought Interview with DeepSeek CEO Liang Wenfeng R1 censorship Example 1 Example 2 (via Greg Pierce) Example 3 (via Gruber) Prompt engineering The Questions the Chinese Government Doesn’t Want DeepSeek AI to Answer Self-hosted doesn’t seem to censor Post-show: Marco wants to do some local web development x86 images on Apple Silicon Members-only ATP Overtime: Sonos Shakeup Sonos CEO Patrick Spence exits ?? ?and also Chief Product Officer Maxime Boulat-Merlin ?? ?and also Chief Commercial Officer Deidre Findlay Wall Street Journal coverage The Last King of Scotland

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Pre-show: #GALP ??????????? Jeff Atwood: Stay Gold, America Follow-up: Apple pauses notification summaries for news apps Marco’s BMW does have dual-screen CarPlay Acura RSX: Honda’s first all-original EV Another 5K monitor enters the arena: ViewSonic VP2788-5K Thom Bullock’s tweet As per Dave Hamilton (of Mag Geek Gab), $800! Fast directory sizing lives! /System/Library/Filesystems/apfs.fs/Contents/Resources/apfs.util man apfs.util Apple sample code is on GitHub (via David Rönnqvist) Backyard Birds Food Truck Video of an iPhone 16 Pro upgrade 128 GB ? 1 TB (via Joe Beninato) Also on YouTube Tim Cook on Table Manners with Jessie & Lennie Ware Overcast link Hyperspace updates Van Halen’s Brown M&Ms John’s Hyperspace Instructions Ask ATP: What should a nerd consider when buying a house? (via Jeremy Kelleher) MoCA Post-show: Casey’s Rube Goldberg machine? simplified? ATP #376: Monogamous Gaming Lifestyle Raspberry Pi Zero WH UDP Homebridge Home Assistant MQTT Mosquitto Eric Welander Members-only ATP Overtime: Nintendo Switch 2 announced The Verge coverage

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Follow-up: AirPod noises Gui Rambo & AirBuddy One of the noises is “the case battery is low” (via Zach) Also, more on status lights (via Tom French) Another noise is a calibration noise (via Ian Williamson) Knowledge base How to turn off charging sounds Look, ma! We’re famous! AirPod Noises (via Patch) TVs at CES 2025 Hisense’s 116UX with RGB mini-backlight Digital Trends coverage HDTVTest coverage DLSS History (via Hampus Jensen) Explanation (via flunkedflank) Digital Foundry explanation video Mac monitors Some foreign options (via Henry Chen) MacRumors thread Kuycon G27-X Another option (via Tim Ngwena) Asus ProArt Display 6K PA32QCV Quick look video DisplayHDR 600 spec Dynamic Island Live Alert (via Dan Engler) ? Tim Cook donates $1 million to Trump inaguration ? The Verge Google and Microsoft join in Citizens United Nvidia bends a knee Charles Erwin Wilson’s nomination for Secretary of Defense TestFlight subscriptions on macOS TestFlight for ATP members Name reveal Manage subscriptions API Marco and Casey price John’s app Post-show Neutral: Winter report card for Tina’s Civic Casey has connected Erin’s car to Home Assistant Marco’s new[-ish] car update Members-only ATP Overtime: Honda EVs at CES Afeela (Honda ?? Sony) 1 Honda Zero Ars Technica Acura NSX F-4 Phantom II F-16 Fighting Falcon

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Pre-show: Our AirPods are trying to talk to us but we can’t understand them 20k Hz The Sound of Apple 1.0 The Sound of Apple 2.0 Auto-Tone (Rivian) statuslight.com Follow-up: That gas car review post that Marco was thinking of Former example Actual link we couldn’t [previously] find (via K) Another example And another The Find My app can make Macs make noise (via Miles) Maybe iOS 18’s Photos app isn’t all bad? (via Tim Luft) The Magic Mouse The Apology Mouse did not have side buttons The Mighty Mouse did MKBHD’s blind ranking interview with Tim Cook Editorialized reel What will the new one be? Ridiculous mouse rumor Gurman’s take Hello, Computer Death to buttons? Death to ports? (In the name of handedness) Maybe ape the Logitech MX Anywhere? (via Karan J) Perhaps a common charging approach? Apple already makes Wi-Fi & Bluetooth chips (via Ian Williamson) Meshtastic is another application for John and Casey’s new favorite thing, LoRa (via James Andrews) CES 2025 TVs What’s John got his eyes on? Sony ? Samsung’s new QD-OLED HDTVTest Digital Trends LG’s flagship goes MLA ? Tandem OLED Microlens Tandem OLED Panasonic talks about the new LG panel “Primary RGB Tandem OLED Panel” HDTVTest on the Z95B More “AI” coming to TVs ?? Big TVs are big LG Unveils UltraFine 6K Display with Thunderbolt 5 Recent ATP Overtime on monitors was in Episode #618 Dell UltraSharp 32 6K Monitor “U3224KB” Dell no longer makes XPS computers Mocked at their own launch is not a great look Engadget’s take Nvidia’s announcements Nvidia announces RTX 5090 and 5080 GPUs DLSS 4 Explainer video from Nvidia Deep learning super sampling John’s post featuring a video about the responsiveness of touch interfaces Nvidia AI supercomputer “Digits” ~~Concepts of~~ a plan for desktop CPU TestFlight access to John’s app is [likely] coming for ATP members only Post-show: Thanks, Patrons ? Marco bought something. HDCP Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple Intelligence summaries may get warning labels BBC report 1 and report 2 Apple’s response Allen Pike’s Apple Intelligence evaluation

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Pre-show: Holiday results Steven Levy: Gone, Without a Trace Casey’s impending mess John needs technical support Follow-up: Satirical posts about gas cars from the perspective of EV owners FotS Spencer’s find (discussed on the show) The one we were actually thinking of (found afterward by K, thanks!) On Recents in the Finder sidebar Michael Starke points out it isn’t new Odin points out it’s a default Joe Lion has complaints Possible next-generation Vision Pro displays (via Erich Jurgens) Vison Pro teardown Samsung’s screen breakthrough Sony’s OLED microdisplay Be suspect of iPhone Mirroring on corporate Macs Original blog post ~/Library/Daemon Containers/{?}/Data/Library/Caches iOS 18 Photos hate (via Quinn) Apple’s Wi-Fi & Bluetooth chip, and Magic Mouse update? MKBHD asks Tim Cook about the Magic Mouse Post-show: Casey has joined the YoLink bandwagon Casey’s super-shady installation LoRa Casey’s starter pack YoLink FAQ John’s starter pack Water Leak Detector YoLink store at Amazon Members-only ATP Overtime: Fast Directory Sizing WWDC 2016 #701: Introducing Apple File System Direct video link Slides PDF About Apple File System Apple File System Reference dirstat.h dirstat.c

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Pre-show: New member special: ATP Insider: Making The Show Become an ATP Member to listen ATP Gift Memberships Follow-up: “Hey, Future Marco” wasn’t discussed on the member’s special (via Martim) Can Marco recognize waveforms? Descript Emo Siri It started before 18.2 (via Dan Mielcarz) She pahks heah cah? sometimes? (via Dave Martin) Immersive video More about the Blackmagic immersive camera (via videoalex) Insta360 Titan Software-based immersive video Depth Anything Immersive video prior art (via James O’Loughlin) Welcome to Light Fields Deep View Video Neural Radiance Fields for View Synthesis (via Joseph Humfre) Demo for the Meta Quest John’s app More on Smart Update and clones from Dave Nanian Unexpected gains in software (via Peter Marks) Why even bother, asks Harvey Simon New Vision Pro content — again! Apple and bootable macOS backups Mike Bombich at Carbon Copy Cloner has thoughts Original blog post from May 2021 Secure boot asr: Apple Software Restore Ask ATP: Does the new Recents item in Finder conflict with Apple’s privacy stance? (via Cira Mazzola) What’s the correct location to save random scripts? (via tuckerk) ~/bin /usr/local/bin Do we use the macOS firewall? (via Saul Sutherland) What are we using for cameras these days? (via Torstein) Fuji X-T5: black recommended for control legibility 27mm pancake (41mm equiv.) 16-50 zoom (24-76mm equiv.): small, light, great quality 16-55 f/2.8 II zoom (24-84mm equiv.): surprisingly small and light for f/2.8, great quality Fuji GFX 100S (old version; this is the current one) 50mm “pancake” (40mm equiv.) Olympus OM-D E-M10 Sony a7 III SEL2470GM2 Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM II Post-show: Erin’s Volvo XC90 PHEV, ~6 months on Including a detour to discuss professional Christmas light installation Members-only ATP Overtime: The Best & Worst of 2024

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