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The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

Software's best weekly news brief, deep technical interviews & talk show.

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State of the "log" 2024 (Friends)

Our 7th annual year-end wrap-up is here! We're featuring 12 listener voicemails, dope Breakmaster Cylinder remixes & our favorite episodes of the year. Thanks for listening! ?
2024-12-20
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We ain't afraid of no Ghostty! (Interview)

Mitchell Hashimoto joins the show to discuss Ghostty, the newest terminal in town. Mitchell co-founded HashiCorp, took it all the way to IPO, exited in 2023?and now he's working on a terminal emulator called Ghostty. Ghostty is set to 1.0 this month, so we sat down to talk through all the details.
2024-12-18
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The code, prose & pods that shaped 2024 (News)

This episodes diverges from our traditional fare. I've reviewed the 50 previous editions and picked (IMHO) the coolest code, best prose & my favorite podcast episode from each month!
2024-12-16
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Kaizen! Three wise men? (Friends)

Gerhard is back for Kaizen 17! We discuss our CPU.fm changes in-depth, detail new Zulip / Neon integrations & put our Pipedream to the test. Oh, and a Gerhard surprise (of course)!
2024-12-13
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Building the developer cloud (Interview)

Kurt Mackey is back for a deep dive into what it takes to build the developer cloud. Kurt joins Adam to discuss the alliance between companies and cloud, something Kurt refers to as the "Rebel Alliance," cloud complexity vs usability, Fly's future with Postgres and why they've waited, thoughts on Neon and Supabase (Kurt shares a hot take), and our CDN saga and plan to build a simple CDN on Fly called Pipely (still a Pipedream).
2024-12-12
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A new era for the Changelog Podcast Universe (News)

We're making some big Changelog changes in 2025, the previously featured Stanford study on ghost engineers doesn't live up to the hype, Git ingest is a simple service that turns any GitHub repository into a simple text ingest of its codebase, Simon Willison dishes out some hard-earned wisdom he acquired by working at Lanyrd / Eventbrite & Matheus Lima warns us about six mistakes that new managers make.
2024-12-09
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ShopTalk & Friends (Friends)

Chris Coyier and Dave Rupert join Adam and Jerod for a ShopTalk & Friends conversation on the viability of the web, making content, ads to support that content, Codepen's future plans, books, side quests, and social networks devaluing links.
2024-12-06
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Hack Club takes to the High Seas (Interview)

Jerod is joined by Hack Clubber Acon, who is fresh off the GitHub Universe stage and ready to tell us all about High Seas, a new initiative by Zach Latta and the Hack Club crew that's incentivizing teens to build cool personal projects by giving away free stuff.
2024-12-04
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If not React, then what? (News)

Alex Russell answers the question, "If not React, then what?" Csaba Okrona identifies four core problems that create and reinforce knowledge silos, Rob Koch's Markwhen is like Markdown for timelines, Jeff Geerling is quite impressed by Apple's latest iteration on the Mac mini & Sylvain Kerkour took the time to draw a comparison of Amazon's O.G. S3 service with Cloudflare's R2 competitor.
2024-12-02
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Let's archive the web (Interview)

Nick Sweeting joins Adam and Jerod to talk about the importance of archiving digital content, his work on ArchiveBox to make it easier, the challenges faced by Archive.org and the Wayback Machine, and the need for both centralized and distributed archiving solutions.
2024-11-27
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Waymos make bad neighbors (Changelog++ ?) (Friends)

Adam & Jerod hallway-track-it before our All Things Open interviews. We discuss the trend in rebooting old school vehicles, our likes & dislikes of EVs, the Hummer's new crab walk, Tesla's gambit & more (This episode is for Changelog++ ears only.)
2024-11-27
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Busting the ghost engineers (0.1x-ers) (News)

Ben Affleck's take on AI replacing actors, Stanford researcher (Yegor Denisov-Blanch) busts the ghost engineers, Electrobun takes a crack at Electron apps, April King opens up a cookies can of worms, John Arundel thinks many of us are making a career ending mistake & Typogram's CodingFont.com is like Zoolander's Walk Off but for coding fonts.
2024-11-25
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Local-first, y/n? (Friends)

Our friends Johannes Schickling & James Long join us to discuss the movement of local-first, its pros and cons, the tradeoffs, and the path to the warming waters of mostly local apps.
2024-11-22
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Two tickets for Departure, please (Interview)

Today we're joined by a dynamic duo, Helena Zhang & Tobias Fried, who team up on all sorts of digital passion projects. This includes the wildly popular Phosphor Icons plus their latest joint, Departure Mono, a monospaced pixel font with a lo-fi technical vibe... that both Adam & Jerod are pretty much in love with. We discuss their tastes & inspirations, how they collab, making money on passion projects like these, velvet ropes & so much more.
2024-11-20
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AI makes tech debt more expensive (News)

Evan Doyle says AI makes tech debt more expensive, Hunter Ng researches the ghost job ad phenomenon, Gavin Anderegg analyzes Bluesky in light of its recent success, Martin Tournoij rants against best practices & Evan Schwartz tells us why he thinks binary vector embeddings are so cool.
2024-11-18
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Bus factors & conspiracy theories (Friends)

Adam & Jerod discuss the news! Our Merch sale, useful built-in macOS CLI utilities, the slow death of the hyperlink, systematically estimating a project's bus factor, The Browser Company abandoning Arc, the Dead Internet theory & more!
2024-11-15
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Gotta give to get back (Interview)

We're on the main stage at THAT Conference with Danny Thompson. He has an amazing story and journey into tech. Thanks to our friends at Cloudflare for helping us get to THAT Conference earlier this year to enable this conversation. Special thanks to Nick Nisi and Clark Sell for coming in clutch and getting us the audio to ship this show!
2024-11-14
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The democratization of spreadsheets (News)

Changelog Merch is now on sale, IronCalc sets out to democratize spreadsheets, Grant Slatton writes about algorithms we develop software by, Mark Rainey gives respect to the ultimate in debugging, Gitpod is leaving Kubernetes & Johannes Kaufmann?s html-to-markdown converts entire websites into Markdown.
2024-11-11
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ANTHOLOGY ? Self-hosted, self-confident & self-employed (Friends)

We take you one last time back to the All Things Open 2024 hallway track to talk with some friends, new & old. We speak with Alex Kretzchmar about self-hosting. We speak with Israa Taha about self-confidence. We speak with Avindra Fernando & Adhithi Ravichandran about self-employment.
2024-11-08
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ANTHOLOGY ? Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

The hallway track at All Things Open 2024 ? features Carl George, Principal Software Engineer at Red Hat for a discussion on the state of open source enterprise linux and RHEL (Red Hat Enterprise Linux), Max Howell, creator of Homebrew and tea.xyz which offers rewards and recognition to open source maintainers, and Chad Whitacre, Head of Open Source at Sentry about the launch of Open Source Pledge and their plans to helps businesses and orgs to do the right thing and support open source.
2024-11-06
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Tactile controls are back in vogue (News)

IEEE Spectrum reports on the return to physical buttons and dials, Microsoft released GenAIScript, iFixit's Elizabeth Chamberlain announces a big Right to Repair win, Daniela Baron reimagines technical interviews & John O'Nolan, shares some thoughts on open source governance and how to create trust within technology, communities, and media
2024-11-04
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Wine Web and a whole lot of Whatnot (Friends)

We join the Whiskey Web and Whatnot podcast live from the hallway track at All Things Open 2024. Topics include: Chianti, content creation, open source, fake jobs, cancel culture, Silicon Valley (ding), frontend frustrations, the Roman empire & more.
2024-11-01
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Rails is having a moment (again) (Interview)

(Includes expletives) David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH), creator of Ruby on Rails and co-owner of 37signals, joined the show to discuss this Rails moment and renewed excitement for Rails. We discuss hard opinions, developers being cooked too long in the JavaScript soup, finding developer joy, the pros and cons of the BDFL, the ongoing WordPress drama with WP Engine, and what's to come in Rails 8.
2024-10-31
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Developing with Docker (the right way) (News)

Daniel Quinn weighs in on how to develop with Docker The Right Way, Mitchell Hashimoto says Ghostty will be publicly released this coming December, Kevin Li writes about the value of learning how to learn, The Browser Company moves on from Arc & the React Native team ships its new architecture.
2024-10-28
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Ten years of freeCodeCamp (Friends)

At the tail end of 2019, we got together with Quincy Larson to celebrate ten years of Changelog & five years of freeCodeCamp by recording back-to-back episodes on each other's pods. Can you believe it's now five years later and we're all still here doing our thing?! Let's learn what Quincy and the amazing community at freeCodeCamp have been up to!
2024-10-25
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Elasticsearch is open source, again (Interview)

Shay Banon, the creator of Elasticsearch, joins us to discuss pulling off a reverse rug pull. Yes, Elasticsearch is open source, again! We discuss the complexities surrounding open source licensing and what made Elastic change their license, the implications of trademark law, the personal and business impact of moving away from open source, and ultimately what made them hit rewind and return to open source.
2024-10-24
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Naming conventions that need to die (News)

Will Crichton wishes some naming conventions would die already, GitHub user brjsp noticed that Bitwarden's new SDK dependency isn't open source, Joaquim Rocha details his forking best practices, Sophie Koonin explains why you should go to conferences & Mike Hoye puts WordPress on SQLite.
2024-10-21
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You'll rent chips and be happy (Friends)

Zac Smith left his role leading Equinix Metal in June of 2023. Since then, he's been thinking deeply about the present and potential future of data centers, OEMs, chip makers & more.
2024-10-18
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Lessons from 10k hours of programming (Remastered) (Interview)

This week we're going back in time to one of our top performing shows of all time where we talk with Matt Rickard about his blog post Reflections on 10,000 Hours of Programming. These reflections are about deliberately writing code for 10,000 hours. Most don't apply to beginners. He was clear to mention that these reflections are purely about coding, not career advice or soft skills. If you count the reflections we cover on the show and be the first to comment the amount of reflections on this thread in Zulip, we'll give you a coupon code to use for a 100% free t-shirt from the merch store. Good luck...
2024-10-17
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Working from home is powering productivity (News)

Nicholas Bloom finds WFH is powering a productivity boom, Matt Mullenweg has decided that WP Engine's beatings will continue until morale improves, Levels.fyi has added a salary heat map, Gareth Edwards highlights just how fragile the Internet really is & Artem Zakirullin details how cognitive load is what really matters in software development.
2024-10-14
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The indispensable cog (Friends)

Go Time co-host, Johnny Boursiquot, joins Adam & Jerod to discuss not making the (first) cut, applying Founder Mode, being a cog (or not), realizing that companies are posting fake engineering jobs & the (maybe) imminent demise of the .io TLD.
2024-10-11
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The Moneyball approach (Interview)

John Nunemaker joins us to share his new thesis for acquiring Rails based SaaS apps. He's early days on his next big thing called Very Good Software and recently acquired Fireside, a podcast hosting service started by Dan Benjamin. This comes after many years since John's acquisition of a lifetime of Speakerdeck to GitHub, which laid the foundation for these moves.
2024-10-10
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The slow death of the hyperlink (News)

A bias against hyperlinking has developed on platforms, GitHub engineering continues to evolve Issues, Evan You announces VoidZero, some companies are only pretend hiring & Klaas van Schelven asks: does it scale (down)?
2024-10-07
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Developer (un)happiness (Friends)

Abi Noda, co-founder and CEO at DX, joins the show to talk through data shared from the Stack Overflow 2024 Developer Survey, why devs are really unhappy, and what they're doing at DX to help orgs and teams to understand the metrics behind their developer's happiness and productivity.
2024-10-04
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Free-threaded Python (Interview)

Jerod is joined by the co-hosts of core.py , Pablo Galindo & ?ukasz Langa, a podcast about Python internals by people who work on Python internals. Python 3.13 is right around the corner, which means the Global Interpeter Lock (GIL) is now experimentally optional! This is a huge deal as Python is finally free-threaded. There's more to discuss, of course, so we get into all the gory details.
2024-10-02
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Display custom maps on your website for free (News)

OpenFreeMap puts OpenStreetMap data on your website for free, Fatih Arslan builds a Dieter Rams inspired iPhone dock, Joseph Gentle thinks the Rust programming language feels like a first-gen product & the web dev community is debating the viability of Web Components once again.
2024-09-30
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The wrong place to slap a person (Friends)

Nick Nisi joins Adam and Jerod to talk about Karaoke, ARC and the business model of web browsers, this WordPress drama, and an epic bonus for Changelog ++ subscribers.
2024-09-28
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Leveling up JavaScript with Deno 2 (Interview)

Jerod is joined by Ryan Dahl to discuss his second take on leveling up JavaScript developers all around the world. Jerod asks Ryan why not try to fix or fork Node instead of starting fresh, how Deno (the open source project) can avoid the all too common rug pull (not cool) scenario, what's new in Deno 2 & their pragmatic decision to support npm, they talk JSR, they talk Deno KV & SQLite, they even talk about Ryan's open letter to Oracle in an attempt to free the unused "JavaScript" trademark from the giant's clutches.
2024-09-26
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Imagine Fly.io on your own VPS (News)

Mahmoud Mousa releases Sidekick, a tool for hosting side projects on a cheap VPS, Ryan Dahl, has had enough of Oracle bogarting "JavaScript" but not even using it, Thomas Rampelberg's kty is a sweet terminal for Kubernetes, Redis users are considering alternatives after their relicense & a bunch of smart JS folks wrote up nine Node.js pillars.
2024-09-23
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Kaizen! Just do it (Friends)

Gerhard Lazu joins us for Kaizen 16! Our Pipe Dream?? is becoming a reality, our custom feeds are shipping, our deploys are rolling out faster & our tooling is getting `just` right.
2024-09-20
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The best, worst codebase (Interview)

Jimmy Miller talks to us about his experience with a legacy codebase at his first job as a programmer. The codebase was massive, with hundreds of thousands of lines of C# and Visual Basic, and a database with over 1,000 columns. Let's just say Jimmy got into some stuff. There's even a Gilfoyle involved. This episode is all about his adventures while working there.
2024-09-18
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Why GitHub actually won (News)

Scott Chacon writes up his insider take on GitHub's success, Sentry wants other companies to take the Open Source Pledge, Benj Edwards used AI to reproduce his late father's handwriting, Dave Kiss explains the current hype that PHP is getting & Taylor Otwell raises $57 million series A from Accel.
2024-09-16
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Reverse rug pull, so cool? (Friends)

Jerod & Adam share our Zulip first impressions, react to Elasticsearch going open source (again), discuss Christian Hollinger's blog post on why he still self-hosts & answer a listener question: how do we produce podcasts?
2024-09-13
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Building customizable ergonomic keyboards (Interview)

Erez Zukerman shares the story of launching the ErgoDox EZ on Indiegogo (May 2015), what it takes to create customizable ergonomic keyboards, the benefits of split keyboards and custom key layouts, repairability and longevity, community engagement, and the attention to detail required in everything they create. We talk through their keyboard lineup, our personal experience with how we mouse and keyboard...we cover it all.
2024-09-12
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Is Linux collapsing under its own weight? (News)

A Rust for Linux developer resigns amidst rising tension in the Linux community, Bret Victor shows off what he's been working on for years, Rachel (by the bay) laments how useless "SRE" has become as a role, Doug Turnbull makes the case for hiring junior devs & Baldur Bjarnason says the LLM honeymoon phase is about to end.
2024-09-09
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Starbucks DVD peddlers (Friends)

Emily Freeman joins the show alongside our Ship It co-host, Justin Garrison! We hear Emily's burnout story & learn how she and Forrest Brazeal are putting tech-focused influencers on tap. But first: area code turf wars, bad movie reboots & buying used DVDs... at Starbucks?!
2024-09-06
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Open source threaded team chat?! (Interview)

We're joined by Alya Abbott from Zulip, the open source, organized, threaded, team chat for distributed teams of all sizes. We talk about Zulip's origins, how it's open source, the way it's led, no VC funding, what makes it different/better, how you can self-host it or use their cloud, moving to Zulip, contributing and being a part of the community...all the things.
2024-09-05
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Cursor wants to write all the world's code (News)

The Cursor AI code editor raises $60 million, RedMonk's Rachel Stephens tries to determine if rug pulls are worth it, Caleb Porzio details how he made $1 million on GitHub Sponsors, Elastic founder Shay Banon announces that Elasticsearch is open source (again) & Tomas Stropus writes about the art of finishing.
2024-09-03
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#define: piggyback (Friends)

What happens when you take two #define champs (Taylor Troesh, Thomas Eckert), a grizzled veteran (Adam Stacoviak), a british bard (Mat Ryer), a PhD (Carol Lee) & you pit them against each other in a game of fake tech definitions?! There's only one way to find out...
2024-08-30
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Reinventing Kafka on object storage (Interview)

Ryan Worl, Co-founder and CTO at WarpStream, joins us to talk about the world of Kafka and data streaming and how WarpStream redesigned the idea of Kafka to run in modern cloud environments directly on top of object storage. Last year they posted a blog titled, "Kafka is dead, long live Kafka" that hit the top of Hacker News to put WarpStream on the map. We get the backstory on Kafka and why it's so widely used, who created it and for what purpose, and the behind the scenes on all things WarpStream.
2024-08-29
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