John disapproves of his brother's new podcast entirely, but is happy to be here. They talk about why John's worried about Hank, why being in favor of humans is now counter-cultural, if John's seminary training might have helped the brothers' internet success, and what Mark Twain has to do with any of it. They have spent years talking publicly together ? but not like this.

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Hank Green is a creator and science communicator who desperately wants us to realize how bizarre and special we are. Every week he has a conversation with one of the eight billion weirdos living on planet Earth.