Anti-Zionism on the left and the right in America today is a kind of envy ? envy of a country that still has permission to define itself, defend itself, and have a future. That's the opening claim Alana Newhouse makes to Jeremy Boreing in this two-hour conversation about Zionism, American identity, and the cultural project of believing in tomorrow.
Jeremy sits down with Alana Newhouse ? founder and editor-in-chief of Tablet Magazine, author of the breakout essays "Everything Is Broken," "Brokenness," and "Zionism for Everyone" ? for a wide-ranging conversation that uses Israel as a lens for diagnosing what's wrong with America.
They get into culture as a "mixing board" (race is loud in Japan, irrelevant in Israel ? every culture calibrates differently); America's twin tethers of capitalism and covenant; the four questions Alana says every country has to be able to answer (are your people happy? do they have babies? can they defend themselves? are they future-oriented?); Tucker Carlson's truth-and-lie about Israel and the black pill industrial complex aimed at demoralizing Americans; the Artemis splashdown, the F-15 weapons officer rescue in Iran, and "what are the machines for?"; Alana's four-bucket framework for any institution (conserve, reform, destroy, build new); why she's drawn to leaders like Modi and Milei but skeptical of Orban and "Make America Great Again"; the original meaning of ethnos (it's not bloodline, it's the music a people make together); why anti-Semitism is a symptom and not a cause; and the fertility hiccup, the Gen X reckoning, and the case that creation itself is an act of optimism.
Not a defense of Israeli policy. Not a brief against the contemporary right. A clinical, hopeful argument that the formula that built Israel ? particularism plus pragmatism plus idealism ? is exportable, and that the future belongs to whoever shows up to build it.
00:00 Anti-Zionism Is Just Envy
05:14 America's Twin Tethers ? Capitalism and Covenant
12:22 The "Mixing Board" ? Why Cultures Have to Be Different
25:17 The Zionism Formula and the 4 Questions Every Country Must Answer
31:59 What Tucker Carlson Got Wrong About Israel
36:30 The Black Pill Trap and the Lost Faith in the Moon Landing
45:00 Why Alana Built Tablet ? Creation as an Act of Optimism
56:35 The Right's Failure on Social Media (and Why AI Is Next)
1:03:22 The 4 Buckets: Conserve, Reform, Destroy, Build New
1:21:39 When Ethnos Goes Wrong ? and Why the Nation-State Still Wins
1:28:11 Modi, Milei, Orban ? Looking for Joy in World Leaders
1:34:05 The Artemis Diver and the F-15 Rescue: "What Are the Machines For?"
1:46:09 Anti-Semitism Is a Symptom, Not a Cause
1:49:02 Fertility, Gen X, and the Hiccup We Have to Correct
2026-05-01
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