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This is Gavin Newsom

This is Gavin Newsom

I’m Gavin Newsom.

And, it’s time to have a conversation. It’s time to have honest discussions with people that agree AND disagree with us.

It's time to answer the hard questions and be open to criticism, and debate without demeaning or dehumanizing one other.

I will be doing just that on my new podcast – inviting people on who I deeply disagree with to talk about the most pressing issues of the day and inviting listeners from around the country to join the conversation.

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And, This Is The Chaos Within The GOP Featuring Ben Shapiro

What happens when the conservative movement turns on one of its own? Governor Newsom is joined by Ben Shapiro to dissect a wide range of topics including Trump's economic failures, the importance of immigration, and how free elections are in fact in danger. Plus they debate Middle East politics, how to solve the housing crisis and whether it's possible to find common ground with those you disagree with. 

00:00 Intro

00:36 Ben Shapiro Is California Raised

5:25 Law vs. Politics

7:00 How Bullying Shaped Ben

11:26 Breitbart, Bannon & The Birth of A Right Wing Media Empire

19:02 Are Podcasts' Influence Overrated?

22:06 ICE in California, The Importance of Immigrants & The Benefits of Sanctuary Policies

30:01 Solving The Housing Crisis & Fighting Crony Capitalism

38:47 California vs. Red States

42:51 Did Ben Actually Support Prop 50

47:33 Is Donald Trump Trying To Kill Free Elections?

54:32 TPUSA's America Fest Speech, Candace Owens & The Right Wing Influencer Scene

1:00:50 Shapiro's Relationships With Charlie Kirk & Tucker Carlson

1:03:04 Grievance Based Politics & False Nostalgia

1:08:50 Trump's Economic Troubles, The Affordability Crisis and The Tariff Failure

1:17:06 Shapiro's Justification of Trump's Foreign Policy & The Greenland Question

1:19:49 Trump's Interference With The Fed

1:21:05 Israel, Hamas, The Devastation In Gaza, & Criticisms of Bibi Netanyahu

1:30:30 Gender Affirming Care Under Trump & The Right's Weaponization of LGBTQIA Rights

1:41:08 Is Trump The Scavenger in Ben's Book?

1:45:28 Rapid Fire: Midterm Predictions, Healthcare Subsidies, Vance vs, Rubio, Bondi's Exit 

 

 

 

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Young Man in a Hurry by Gavin Newsom, out February 2026. Pre-order your copy: https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom 

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2026-01-16
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And, This Is How The Media Is Failing Us In 2026 With Alex Wagner

Alex Wagner (Crooked Media) joins the show to talk about why legacy media is struggling, what stories will matter in 2026 and how Democrats can find their senses of humor. Plus, Alex shares why she'd love to get rid of the internet and why she refuses to become too negative.   


00:00 Celebrating New Years With A Cold Plunge

5:15 The Difference Between Crooked Media & Legacy Media

9:47 Can CBS News Win Over MAGA?

14:24 Is Profitability Killing Institutional Media?

 19:07 How The News Chooses What to Cover 

23:17 Do Podcasts Break Through The Noise?

31:30 Trump's Endurance

36:00 Why Are Democrats So Humorless?

 40:16 Is Media Consolidation And Democracy

 45:05 How You Become Alex Wagner

 55:23 The Stories We Should Be Focusing On In 2026

1:01:30 How Democrats Should Address Climate Issues?

1:09:16 Fighting Loneliness

1:17:13 What Makes Nihilism So Appealing For Young People?


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2026-01-09
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Re-Release: And, This Is Gaming Culture & Gen-Z Nihilism With Content Creator Brandon _Atrio

Brandon Ewing aka Atrioc joins the show to talk with Gavin about gaming culture and whether violent video games lead to violent acts. Then they decide what it will take for Gen-Z to reject this administration, if a college degree is worth it, and whether online culture is a cause or symptom of the nihilism young people are feeling.

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(00:00) Intro

(2:56) The Alleged Link Between Violent Video Games And Violent Actions

(9:32) Gaming Culture For People Who Aren't In It

(14:50) The Rise & Fall of E-Sports

(21:12) Meme Culture & The Economy After Covid

(28:02) What It Takes For Gen-Z To Turn On Trump

(36:00) The Burden We're Placing On Young People Is Unsustainable

(39:57) Are College Degrees Worthless?

(45:55) Social Media Incentivizes Feeding Into Anger

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2025-12-30
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And, This Is A Look Back At The Biggest Moments of 2025

As the year comes to a close, the show looks back at some of the conversations that sparked debate, challenged assumptions, and cut across the political divide.

In this special end of year rewind episode, Governor Gavin Newsom revisits significant moments from his discussions with Charlie Kirk, Steve Bannon, Scott Galloway, Atrioc, and Ben Meiselas providing new context and commentary.


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2025-12-18
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And, This Is How Trump Loses His Base with Tim Miller of The Bulwark

The Bulwark's Tim Miller joins the podcast to discuss being a leading figure in the Never Trump movement, the growth of The Bulwark and how Donald Trump is starting to make the mistake of a normal politician. Plus, Tim shares what it's like spending time with the Turning Point crowd and which Democrats could actually reach young men.


0:00 Intro
2:30 Miller's Media Diet
4:34 How Miller Came To Elevate The Bulwark
10:34 How To Understand The Trump Origin Story 
16:12 Who Really Benefits From Trump's Success
26:03 How Do Democrats Win Nationally
34:05 Did Covid Turn Democrats Into The Establishment?
40:59 Miller's Relationship With Charlie Kirk & Turning Point USA
46:17 The Left's Inability To Engage Young People
52:00 Is The Theo Von Voter Up For Grabs?

 

 

 

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2025-12-12
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And, This Is Governor Newsom Live At The DealBook Summit With Andrew Ross Sorkin

Governor Newsom chats with Andrew Ross Sorkin in front of a live audience at the New York Times DealBook Summit in New York.  Listen in as they discuss the future of the country, the state of the Democratic party and how to fight the Trump administration.

0:00 - The Democratic Party Is A Big Tent Party
3:26 - The Importance of Democratizing Our Economy
9:27 Standing Up For Free Elections
15:55 Social Media Strategy & The Patriot Shop
20:35 Trump's Future  
23:47 Crony Capitalism
29:30 California As A Model Economy 
35:32 Environmental Issues & China
38:41 The 2028 Nominee Should Be...


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2025-12-05
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And, This Is How The World Looks At Us Under Trump With Ian Bremmer

Governor Gavin Newsom sits down with Ian Bremmer, president of Eurasia Group, founder of  GZEROMedia, and one of the most influential geopolitical analysts in the world. Together they assess whether the United States is still seen as a reliable global partner.

Bremmer breaks down how President Trump is reshaping alliances, why U.S. foreign policy feels increasingly improvisational, and how adversaries like Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin exploit American dysfunction.

They also examine the administration’s Middle East strategy, whether the U.S. is quietly pursuing regime change in Venezuela and whether our fear of Artificial Intelligence can be solved by good political leadership.


00:00 — Is the U.S. Still a Reliable Ally?
06:31 — Does Trump Actually Have a Foreign Policy?
13:11 — MBS, Saudi Arabia, and That White House Meeting
19:22 — Should Trump Get More Credit in the Middle East?
25:38 — China’s Strategy: Xi Believes He Can Manage Trump
32:04 — Why This Administration Seems to Have It Out for Canada
38:48 — Are We Quietly Pushing Regime Change in Venezuela?
41:55 — The Trump – Putin Relationship Isn’t Working
48:53 — JD Vance & the NATO Breakdown
53:36 — How the World Actually Sees the U.S. Right Now
1:00:57 — American Corruption Is Now on Full Display
1:04:38 — Can Capitalism Save or Destroy AI?
1:08:50 — What The Epstein Files Really Tell Us


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2025-11-21
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And, This Is A Final Election Day Push With Aaron Parnas

Gavin Newsom sits down with Aaron Parnas for an Election Day conversation and why voting Yes on Prop 50 matters.

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2025-11-04
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And, This Is Flooding The Zone With Truth Ft. Ben Meiselas of MeidasTouch

Gavin sits down with Ben Meiselas, co-founder of MeidasTouch and one of the most influential progressive voices in digital media. Meiselas breaks down how independent creators are outpacing corporate media, why Democrats must “flood the zone with the truth,” and how the right exploits tragedy to manipulate public perception.

From Trump’s con on American farmers to the potential selling out of Taiwan to China to the future control of TikTok, this conversation dives deep into the moral vacuum of today’s GOP and what it really means to fight back. Plus how Trump’s DOJ is threatening future elections and how the government shutdown could spell the end of the filibuster.

 

00:00 - Intro

1:13 - More Downloads Than Rogan, More Views Than Fox 

5:28 - Flood The Zone With The Truth

8:10 - Borrowing From Mr. Beast

14:47 The Right’s Ability to Exploit Tragedy

18:45 Trump As A White House Wrecking Ball 

25:03 How Trump Conned Farmers & The American People

28:44 Would Trump Trade Taiwan For TikTok?

34:04 Why Fighting Back Helps Democrats Become More Popular

42:10 Are We Just Reacting To What Trump Wants? 

51:27 The American People Are Suffering Domestically Because Of Trump’s Policies

57:20 The Founding Fathers Never Considered A Low Moral Character President 

1:01:23 The Shutdown Is Going To Kill The Filibuster

1:05:37 The Department Of Justice, Election Observers and Voter Intimidation 

 

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2025-10-30
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And, This Is How To Solve The Climate Crisis With President Clinton

Live from the Clinton Global Initiative, Governor Gavin Newsom sits down with President Bill Clinton to discuss leadership, climate change, innovation, and the future of public service in America. They also discuss California’s fight against wildfires and rising insurance costs, the global stakes of green energy, and the role of AI in shaping tomorrow’s economy.

 
00:00 Clinton's First Impression of Gavin Newsom

5:29 California Fires, Insurance Rates & Climate Change

11:49 The Damage Done By This Administration Already

15:18 California & Green Energy  & China 

18:13 Artificial Intelligence & Innovation In California 

21:07 Young Men & The Service Corps in California 

25:39 Divorce Is Not An Option 

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2025-10-23
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And, This Is Trump's Shutdown With Senator Chris Murphy

Gavin Newsom sits down with Senator Chris Murphy to discuss if Trump cares about the human impact of a government shutdown and whether bipartisanship is still possible in today’s polarized climate. Then they dive into the mounting tensions of putting troops in the streets, and how Democrats can redefine their brand amidst the chaos. 

0:00 Intro 

1:40 - Oversight Hearing

5:26 -Trump Is Rooting For A Shutdown
11:10 - Dems Need To Unite Right Now
16:04 - Is Bipartisanism Dead?
21:50 - Troops In The Streets 
26:17 The Democratic Brand
30:48 Loneliness & Young People 
36:00 Totalitarianism & Monopolies 
40:29 2026 And Beyond 
Mentioned In This Episode: Chris Murphy's Atlantic Article

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2025-10-13
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And, This is Trump's Invasion With JB Pritzker & Tina Kotek

As fears of martial law grow, Governors Gavin Newsom, JB Pritzker, and Tina Kotek break down what’s really happening with the National Guard, ICE, and federal power. They discuss how states are pushing back, whether we can rely on the courts, and what it means for the future of American democracy.

 

00:00 Introduction

2:40 Breaking News From Illinois 

7:30  "Portland Is Not Burning" 

11:25 ICE Raids In Chicago & The Politics Of Fear

15:15 Noem Means No Actual Crisis

20:42 This Is A Preview Of Things To Come 

27:05  Can We Get Justice In The Courts?

31:04 The Insurrection Act

34:17 The Public Is Pushing Back Peacefully

38:13 The National Guard Don't Want This Either

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2025-10-10
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And, This Is A Department Of Justice Under Attack With Attorney General Eric Holder

Former Obama AG, Eric Holder, joins the podcast to talk about the government shutdown, James Comey's innocence, and how scared we should be about a large police force that's only loyal to one man.

Time Codes:

(00:00) It's Time To Be Afraid

(6:31) James Comey Is Not Getting Convicted

(11:22) Shut It Down For Healthcare

(17:01) Obama's Influence On The Voting Rights Fight

(23:47) Gerrymandering & Race

(32:52) It's About Desensitizing People To Troops On Our Streets

(37:15) The Shock Being Felt By FBI Employees

(40:25) Prop 50 Has Got To Pass

 

 

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2025-10-03
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And, This Is Gaming Culture & Gen-Z Nihilism With Content Creator Brandon "Atrioc" Ewing

Brandon Ewing aka Atrioc joins the show to talk with Gavin about gaming culture and whether violent video games lead to violent acts. Then they decide what it will take for Gen-Z to reject this administration, if a college degree is worth it, and whether online culture is a cause or symptom of the nihilism young people are feeling.

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(00:00) Intro

(2:56) The Alleged Link Between Violent Video Games And Violent Actions

(9:32) Gaming Culture For People Who Aren't In It

(14:50) The Rise & Fall of E-Sports

(21:12) Meme Culture & The Economy After Covid

(28:02) What It Takes For Gen-Z To Turn On Trump

(36:00) The Burden We're Placing On Young People Is Unsustainable

(39:57) Are College Degrees Worthless?

(45:55) Social Media Incentivizes Feeding Into Anger

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2025-09-25
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And, This Is A Rally For Yes On Proposition 50

Governor Gavin Newsom and Brian Tyler Cohen are joined by an all-star lineup of politicians and creators to raise awareness and funds for Yes on Prop 50, also known as the Election Rigging Response Act. 

 

Featuring Senators Elizabeth Warren & Alex Padilla, Representatives Jasmine Crockett & Maxwell Frost, a West Wing Reunion, the guys from Pod Save America, Ben Meiselas of The MeidasTouch and many many more. 

 

To Support Prop 50 and The Election Rigging Response Act click here

 

To watch the full 3 hour plus episode on Youtube and see everyone who showed up (including Brian’s dog) click here.

 

(00:00) Brian Tyler Cohen & Gov. Gavin Newsom

(12:08) Pod Save America & Sen. Elizabeth Warren

(24:38) Ben Meiselas of MeidasTouch & Gov. Gavin Newsom

(36:36) Joanne Carducci & Sen. Alex Padilla

(45:30) The West Wing's Dule Hill, Martin Sheen & Tim Fullerton

(1:01:37) Olivia Julianna & Rep. Jasmine Crockett

(1:11:57) Jack Cochiarella & Rep. Maxwell Frost

(1:22:25) A.B. Burns-Tucker & Reps. Pete Aguilar & Sydney Kamlager-Dove

(1:37:16) Leigh McGowan & Gov. Gavin Newsom

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2025-09-18
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And, This Is Sean Spicer On Why He Thinks People Want To Be On Team Trump This Time Around

Former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer on the lessons of a second term Trump, firings at the Fed, if we should worry about journalism's future, and whether this administration is prioritizing loyalty over facts.

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2025-09-03
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And, This Is Former DNC Chair Jaime Harrison On Fighting For What's Right

Former head of the Democratic National Committee Jaime Harrison shares why Democrats must fight for every seat, what inspired him to run for office, and how to message effectively so voters don't stay home.
Check out Jaime's podcast At Our Table with Jaime Harrison
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2025-08-27
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And, This Is Trump?s Attack on Voting Rights With Jasmine Crockett

Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett breaks down Donald Trump’s systematic dismantling of our democracy — from Texas’ redistricting and California’s response, to Trump's latest attack on the ballot box, and the dystopian National Guard presence in Washington, D.C.

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2025-08-20
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And, This is How We Prevent Election Rigging with Heather Cox Richardson

Heather Cox Richardson and Gavin Newsom discuss breaking news around the Governor’s latest efforts to stop Donald Trump’s election rigging schemes, Border Patrol’s surprise visits to Newsom’s rally, and California’s freshly announced special election this November.

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2025-08-15
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Beto O?Rourke Is Risking Arrest To Protect Texas?s Voters

Former Texas Representative Beto O'Rourke talks Ken Paxton's calls for his arrest, anti-redistricting rallies, and how his Powered By People PAC is fighting Governor Abbott's plan to give Donald Trump a third term. 

Discussed in this episode: How Hitler Dismantled a Democracy in 53 Days

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2025-08-13
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And, This Is The Texas Democratic Legislative Delegation

Facing arrest warrants and Republican calls for their removal, Members of the Texas Legislature arrive in Sacramento to discuss attempts to gerrymander their state and what California can do to stop it.

Members joining the conversation; 
Gina Hinojosa (HD 49)
Vince Perez (HD 77)
Rhetta A. Bowers (HD 113)
Ray Lopez (HD 125)
Ann Johnson (HD 134)
Mary Ann Perez (HD 144)

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2025-08-10
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And, These Are Your Questions

The Governor responds to listener questions on California's proposed redistricting and what Trump's war on the Bureau of Labor Statistics means for our democracy.

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2025-08-07
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And, This is Jordan Klepper

Co-Host and Contributor of The Daily Show, Jordan Klepper, joins the podcast to discuss being a MAGA rockstar, how he learned about the Late Show’s cancellation, and whether California’s redistricting is enough to stand up to Donald Trump. 

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2025-08-06
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And, This is How The Left Fails Young Men with Richard Reeves

Founder & President of the American Institute for Boys and Men, Richard Reeves joins the show to discuss why young men are so lost and what can be done to reach them. 

Warning: This episode discusses suicide and suicidal feelings. If you or someone you know is struggling, help is available. Please contact the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988 in the US and Canada, or visiting their website at 988lifeline.org

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2025-07-30
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More With Ryan Murphy

In our continued conversation, Ryan Murphy talks about the future of Hollywood, how to bring production back to Los Angeles, and shares his upcoming projects.

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2025-07-24
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And, This is Ryan Murphy On The Menendez Brothers, The Kennedys, and Kim Kardashian

Fresh off his latest Emmy nominations, Hollywood legend Ryan Murphy shares his thoughts on The Menendez Brothers, The Kennedys, Kim Kardashian, and California as the entertainment capital of the world.
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2025-07-21
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And, This is Pod Save America's Jon Favreau & Tommy Vietor

Crooked Media's Jon Favreau & Tommy Vietor discuss Gavin's appearance on The Shawn Ryan Show, Epstein conspiracy theories, and how Donald Trump is trying to cheat his way through the 2026 election.
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2025-07-16
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Extended Conversation: How To Live Forever With Dr. Sanjay Gupta

In our extended conversation, Dr. Sanjay Gupta talks about preparing for the next pandemic, whether to put fluoride in the water, and what we eat that makes us sick.

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2025-07-09
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And, This Is Dr. Sanjay Gupta

Vaccine skepticism, why Americans aren't healthy, and how to "do your own research" with Dr. Sanjay Gupta.

Check out his upcoming book to be published in September 2025, IT DOESN’T HAVE TO HURT: YOUR SMART GUIDE TO A PAIN-FREE LIFE


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2025-07-04
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And, This is Secretary Leon Panetta

Former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta joins the show to talk about Trump's deploying the military to California, how playing politics weakens our national security, and what Congress should be doing right now. 

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2025-07-01
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Taking On Fox News (Live with Terry Moran!)

Terry Moran joins the conversation to discuss the lawsuit against Fox News, meeting families hurt by Trump's immigration policies, and what to make of the NYC mayoral race.

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2025-06-28
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And, This is Richard Haass

Richard Haass analyzes the situation in Iran and breaks down the future of the Middle East. Then, the former diplomat and President Emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations discusses what an America First foreign policy really means for the rest of the world.

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2025-06-26
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And, This is Aaron Parnas (Live on Substack!)

Independent journalist Aaron Parnas and Governor Newsom discuss the Trump administration’s push toward a constitutional crisis and the protests this past weekend.
 
Note: This conversation was recorded prior to the federal appeals court hearings on 6/17.

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2025-06-19
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A Message from Governor Newsom

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2025-06-11
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And, This is More With Dr. Phil - Is Free Speech Under Attack?

In our continued conversation with Dr. Phil we discuss book bans, youth sports and how he left Hollywood.

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2025-06-06
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And, This is How Conflict Sells Tickets With Dr. Phil

Self-described "least political person" he knows, Dr. Phil on embedding with ICE and what we get wrong about the Middle East.

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2025-06-04
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And, This is More With Speaker Newt Gingrich

In part 2 of our conversation, the Former Speaker weighs in on immigration, taking on Bill Clinton, and whether he's responsible for today's toxic political climate.

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2025-05-30
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And, This is Speaker Newt Gingrich

Former Speaker Newt Gingrich discusses what's wrong with higher education, DOGE, and whether President Trump is actually a conservative. Part 1 of a 2 part conversation.

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2025-05-28
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And, This is What You?ve Missed

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2025-05-26
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And, This is How Republicans Kill Medicaid with Senator Amy Klobuchar

Senator Amy Klobuchar shares how President Trump’s “big beautiful bill” will hurt Americans and what it’s like sharing a car with Presidents Biden & Trump. 

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2025-05-21
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And, This is A Republican Without A Country with Frank Luntz

Veteran pollster and GOP strategist Frank Luntz talks about the failed Harris campaign, Democrat messaging problems, and whether MAGA voters will ever abandon President Trump.

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2025-05-14
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And, This is Escape From Alcatraz

Listeners want to know - can President Trump really reopen Alcatraz?

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2025-05-08
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And, This is How Democrats Win Back Men with Jackson Katz

Gender scholar Jackson Katz joins the show to discuss the manosphere, the real impact of feminism, and whether the Trump administration is actually good for men.

Warning: This episode contains adult language and subject matter, including discussion of sexual violence.

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2025-05-07
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And, This is How The 2024 Election Was Won with Amie Parnes and Jonathan Allen

Journalists Amie Parnes & Jonathan Allen share the behind-the-scenes story of the 2024 election and what went wrong for Democrats. 

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2025-04-30
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And, I?m Talking To You About Tariffs

Callers across the country share their stories about how the Trump tariffs are hurting their businesses and costing them money. 

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2025-04-29
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And, I?m Talking To You

We’re having a Tariffs Town Hall and we want to hear from YOU.

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2025-04-26
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And, This is How Climate Change is Coming For All Of Us

Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (RI) joins for an Earth Day discussion on the financial impacts of climate change and how Big Oil has betrayed our trust. 


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2025-04-22
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And, This is Who Actually Raises Our Young Men With Scott Galloway

Serial entrepreneur, professor, bestselling author & podcaster Scott Galloway breaks down what's happened to masculinity in America, how young men are failing, and what we can do to address it.

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2025-04-21
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And, This is Rahm Emanuel on How Crony Capitalism And Trump?s Tariffs Will Kill The ?American Dream?

Ambassador Rahm Emanuel joins the show to discuss California suing the Trump Administration on tariffs, Trump's attacks on institutions of higher education, the destruction of American credibility, and what to do when Americans can no longer achieve The American Dream.

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2025-04-16
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And, This is How Trump?s Tariffs Cost YOU Money With Anthony Scaramucci

Former White House Communications Director Anthony Scaramucci joins the podcast to talk tariffs and a theoretical Trump third term.  

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2025-04-04
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