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Wild Card with Rachel Martin

Wild Card with Rachel Martin

Life?s too short for small talk. Rachel gets right to the questions that matter most. Once a week, famous guests pull questions from a deck of cards and open up about the kind of stuff we all think about but rarely say out loud. Actors, authors, and thinkers are prompted to talk about everything from their insecurities and dreams to grief and God. Named one of the 10 best podcasts of 2024 by The New York Times, Wild Card stands out among celebrity interview podcasts. When modern life feels chaotic or overwhelming, listen to Wild Card for a joyful, grounding reminder of our shared humanity. Want to listen to Wild Card sponsor-free? Support NPR by subscribing to Wild Card+. Learn more at plus.npr.org/wildcard.

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Mel Robbins

Mel Robbins tells Rachel that she was plagued by anxiety, trauma and ?relentless self-hatred? when she was younger. Now she has a bestselling book (?The Let Them Theory?) and a massively successful podcast (?The Mel Robbins Podcast?). Her hope is that she can share the tools that have helped her better herself so that other people can improve their lives.

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2025-12-04
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Jason Reynolds (Update)

One of Apple?s top 10 podcast episodes of 2025. Jason Reynolds returns for another Wild Card question about the challenge of setting an example for children. He also speaks with Rachel about the value of being a crier and the advice about rest he got from LeVar Burton.

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2025-11-27
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Suleika Jaouad

Suleika Jaouad has written extensively about what it means to live in the in-between ? the space between sick and healthy. She?s dealt on-and-off with cancer since her early 20s. Her latest book, "The Book of Alchemy," provides a guide on sustaining a creative practice through journaling. Suleika tells Rachel about eavesdropping on laughter and what she's learned from the people she's lost.To listen sponsor-free and support the show, sign up for Wild Card+ at plus.npr.org/wildcard

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2025-11-20
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Malala Yousafzai

When Malala Yousafzai went to college, the last thing she wanted to talk about was her Nobel Prize or the Taliban attack that put her on the world stage. She just wanted to be a normal college student ? taking risks, making friends and going to parties.  Malala tells Rachel it?s taken a lot of work to find out who she is beyond any titles or accolades. Her new book, ?Finding My Way,? is out now.

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2025-11-13
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Padma Lakshmi

Padma Lakshmi has always been deeply curious about food, and how it serves as a vehicle for celebrating the cultural diversity of America. In her new book, "Padma's All American," she shares stories and recipes from people she?s encountered all across the U.S. Padma talks to Rachel about the life lessons her grandma taught her through cooking and why life is better in her 50s.

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2025-11-06
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Brandi Carlile

Brandi Carlile sought out some alone time to work on her newest album, ?Returning to Myself,? but she came out of the experience realizing she needed the people around her more than ever. Brandi talks to Rachel about owning different sides of her identity even when they?re at odds with each other and shares her memory time machine trip with Joni Mitchell.
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2025-10-30
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Shonda Rhimes

Shonda Rhimes has created some of the most successful TV shows of the 21st century, but she says the secret to her success is not caring whether or not people will like her shows. The ?Scandal? and ?Grey?s Anatomy? creator is out with a new version of her memoir, ?Year of Yes.? She talks to Rachel about the freedom she feels when she writes and the imaginative potential of a pantry.To listen sponsor-free and support the show, sign up for Wild Card+ at plus.npr.org/wildcard

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2025-10-23
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Nick Offerman

Nick Offerman is an Emmy-winning actor, but that?s a small part of his identity. He?s also a woodworker, an author, and a devoted acolyte of the naturalist writer Wendell Berry. He talks with Rachel about the art of being satisfied, building up the courage for a home project and what he learned from a childhood that felt like ?Little House on the Prairie.?


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2025-10-16
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Jeff Hiller

Jeff Hiller never expected to win an Emmy. He was used to side roles like ?Mexican restaurant waiter? and ?frazzled salesman,? and then his big break came as Joel on the HBO show ?Somebody Somewhere.? He tells Rachel that not only did the role bring him critical acclaim, it also serves as an example of kindness and decency that has become a kind of moral compass for him.  


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2025-10-09
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Brené Brown

As a researcher and professor, Brené Brown has always sought to understand and navigate the emotions that make us human ? vulnerability, shame, courage. In her latest book, "Strong Ground," she's exploring how to redefine leadership in a rapidly changing world. She spoke with Rachel about being stubborn about her faith, embracing mystery, and how moments of vulnerability can unite us.

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2025-10-02
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Matthew McConaughey

Matthew McConaughey likes finding the rhythm in every role he takes ? whether it?s delivering a monologue in ?The Wolf of Wall Street? or a tearful goodbye in ?Interstellar.? And now, as author of the book ?Poems & Prayers,? he is finding the rhythm and prose in his own life, and sharing what he?s learned. To listen sponsor-free and support the show, sign up for Wild Card+ at plus.npr.org/wildcard

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2025-09-25
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Bobbi Brown doesn?t listen to men in suits about makeup

At 68 years old, Bobby Brown still has a competitive spirit. She lives by the words ?watch me,? which has led to her success as a makeup artist, business mogul and TikTok star. She's written several books on makeup and beauty, but in her upcoming book "Still Bobbi," for the first time, she's telling her own story.

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2025-09-18
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Raphael Bob-Waksberg doesn?t forgive, but he forgets

Raphael Bob-Waksberg says working in animation lets him get away with things. He?s able to dive into heavy topics, like grief and faith, without his stories getting too dark or saccharine. It?s a skill he honed as creator of ?BoJack Horseman? and he?s putting it to use again with his new series ?Long Story Short? on Netflix.

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2025-09-11
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Elizabeth Gilbert no longer believes she?s a bad person

Elizabeth Gilbert's 2006 memoir ?Eat, Pray, Love? was about her journey of self-discovery in the aftermath of a painful divorce. It was a massive hit, but it wasn?t nearly the whole story. In her new book ?All the Way to the River,? Gilbert examines her self-destructive patterns as she contends with addiction and grief. She and Rachel talk about learning to show herself and others mercy.


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2025-09-04
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Ocean Vuong doesn?t erase pain from beauty

The more Ocean Vuong writes, the more he sees his craft as less of a skill and more a condition. He feels compelled to pay attention to the small details around him and turn those details into a story. But he tells Rachel that he actually hopes a day comes when he can stop writing. Vuong?s latest book is ?The Emperor of Gladness.?


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2025-08-28
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Harrison Ford knows how weird his life is

Despite being decades into a career that can only be described as iconic, Harrison Ford is still experiencing firsts ? like his first Emmy nomination for his role in Apple TV+?s "Shrinking." He spoke with Rachel about staying busy at 83, why he doesn't fear death, and why Jay Leno called him mid-interview to talk about a toilet seat.

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2025-08-21
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Our favorite Memory Time Machine trips

At the end of each Wild Card episode, Rachel invites guests to take a trip in our Memory Time Machine and revisit a moment they wouldn?t like to change anything about ? a moment they would like to stay in a little longer. We?re sharing some of our favorite trips in the Memory Time Machine, from David Lynch, Brett Goldstein, Jenny Slate, Barry Jenkins and more.

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2025-08-14
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LeVar Burton is learning to embrace the chaos (encore)

LeVar Burton has three roles he'll forever be known for: Kunta Kinte on the TV series Roots, Geordi La Forge on Star Trek: The Next Generation and host of Reading Rainbow. Those roles have had profound impacts on people and he now understands, as he puts it, "my job is to be LeVar Burton." He talks to Rachel about the tension of that job, his changing definitions of success and learning to embrace the chaos. To listen sponsor-free, access bonus episodes and support the show, sign up for Wild Card+ at plus.npr.org/wildcard

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2025-08-07
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Father James Martin is okay with not being liked

Father James Martin has become one of the most well-known Catholic priests in the U.S, in part due to his appearances on "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert." He's hosting a new podcast called "The Spiritual Life with Fr. James Martin." He talks to Rachel about giving up his need to be liked and his rebellious adolescence.

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2025-07-31
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Aparna Nancherla doesn't know why she's here

Anxiety has always played a major role in Aparna Nancherla's comedy ? whether she's joking about her internal preoccupations, or fighting stage fright. Her experience of living with anxiety and depression as a stand-up comedian landed her in the upcoming documentary, "Anxiety Club." She spoke with Rachel about growing into her rage and feeling godlike when she's alone.

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2025-07-24
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2025-07-18
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Marc Maron would still like some validation

Marc Maron can project cynical misanthrope, but those who have spent countless hours listening to him know that his secret weapon is his vulnerability. He tells Rachel why he's ending his podcast "WTF" despite its enduring popularity and why he's as committed as ever to his work as a standup. His latest special, "Panicked," is out next month.

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2025-07-17
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Celine Song is troubled by love

Celine Song's films, "Past Lives" and "Materialists," invite the viewer to just slow down. To take in the silence, a gaze, the moments in between words. In her conversation with Rachel, Celine describes how she tries to slow down in her own life, how she's making peace with laziness and how she thinks of enjoying a good meal as something close to prayer.

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2025-07-10
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Jenny Han insists on hope

Jenny Han feels like the same person as her teenage self ? which might explain why her books and their adaptations connect so strongly with teen audiences. Her "To All The Boys" and "The Summer I Turned Pretty" franchises are streaming juggernauts ? among teens and adults. Jenny spoke with Rachel about the importance of writing about love and why embarrassment feels so close to the surface.

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2025-07-03
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Michelle Obama doesn't regret saying 'no'

Michelle Obama says she's never truly been able to realize her own ambition. But now she's changing that. She's saying "no" to what's expected of her and "yes" to what she wants to do, including starting a podcast with her brother, "IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson." She reflects with Rachel on owning her decisions and the words her mom told her at the end of her life.

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2025-06-26
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What Kyle MacLachlan learned from his friend David Lynch

Kyle MacLachlan says he wouldn't have a career without his friend and longtime collaborator David Lynch, who died earlier this year. His first gig was on Lynch's "Dune" which was followed up by "Blue Velvet" and then by their iconic run together on the series "Twin Peaks". In this bonus episode, MacLachlan shares what it was like to live in Lynch's world.

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2025-06-22
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Kyle MacLachlan daydreams about the future

Kyle MacLachlan is known for his iconic roles in David Lynch classics like "Blue Velvet" and "Twin Peaks," but he's reinvented himself again and again throughout the years. His recent work includes roles in the TV series "Fallout" and "Overcompensating." He's also cultivated a huge following on TikTok and Instagram where his charm is on full display for a new generation of fans.

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2025-06-19
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Jason Reynolds Loves Being a Crybaby

Jason Reynolds writes stories that don't talk down to kids. In young adult books like "Long Way Down," "Ghost" and two Miles Morales Spider-Man novels, there is a clear understanding: kids are complicated people, and Jason treats them that way. His newest audio-only book is called "Soundtrack." He talks with Rachel about the value of being a crier and the advice about rest he got from LeVar Burton.

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2025-06-12
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Orville Peck killed his impostor syndrome

Orville Peck is full of apparent contradictions. As a kid in South Africa, he went from dancing ballet to playing drums in a punk band. He loves musical theater but made a name for himself as a country singer. He sings about vulnerability but covers his face with a mask. Peck talks to Rachel about embracing those contradictions and about starring in "Cabaret" on Broadway.

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2025-06-05
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Ramy Youssef wants to make it weird

Ramy Youssef's creative pursuits range from stand-up to his semi-biographical Hulu show, "Ramy," to his new animated series, "#1 Happy Family USA." In all of his efforts, he says he's just trying to make work that feels exciting to him. Ramy is one of the costars of the new HBO film, "Mountainhead." He talks to Rachel about his gripe with Santa Claus and reckoning with his mortality.

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2025-05-29
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Mike Birbiglia doesn't think every setup needs a punchline

When Mike Birbiglia tells a story, he tries to make it relatable to everyone in the audience ? whether it's tapping into his childhood anxiety, relating his clumsy attempts at self improvement or sharing his earnest fears about his aging parents. Mike's new Netflix special is The Good Life. He shares with Rachel how he learns valuable lessons from writing jokes, and explains how found some peace.

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2025-05-22
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Jonathan Groff lost his faith while spelunking

Jonathan Groff has brought his killer vocals and Disney-hero charm to Broadway hits like "Spring Awakening," "Hamilton" and "Merrily We Roll Along." He's nominated for a Tony award for his latest Broadway show, "Just in Time," a musical about singer Bobby Darin. He talks to Rachel about responding to criticism like a 7-year-old and realizing he didn't believe in God at a Youth for Christ camp.

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2025-05-15
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Wanda Sykes is looking for higher stakes

Wanda Sykes life has been defined by one act of courage after another. Leaving a safe career for comedy, getting divorced, coming out and surviving breast cancer all took a lot of guts. She shares with Rachel what she learned from each chapter of her life, and how it has made her stand-up stronger. Wanda is on the road for her new tour - it's called Please and Thank You.

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2025-05-08
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'Weird Al' Yankovic is the most normal person in show business

When Weird Al's debut single, "My Bologna," came out, there wasn't really a model for how a parody artist could have any longevity in their career. Yet Al's figured out how to stay popular for over four decades. Ahead of his summer "Bigger and Weirder" tour, he talks with Rachel about staying weird as he ages, parenthood, and his devoted (some might say obsessive) fans.

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2025-05-01
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Joy Harjo thinks writing can heal regret

Joy Harjo is one of the most revered poets in the United States, but she took a winding path to get there. The former U.S. poet laureate spoke with Rachel Martin about a pivotal decision in her childhood that put her on the creative path and how she views writing as a way to have second chances. This spring, Harjo is releasing a new version of her book, For A Girl Becoming.

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2025-04-24
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Brett Goldstein avoids emotions at all costs

Don't be fooled by Brett Goldstein's grumpy exterior ? he can't resist a big, open-hearted story. You see it in the TV shows he's acted in and helped create, "Ted Lasso" and "Shrinking." He's about to release a new HBO standup special called "The Second Best Night of Your Life." He spoke with Rachel about what Pixar knows about the afterlife and about finding ways to love annoying people.

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2025-04-17
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Julianne Nicholson just wants everyone to take a beat

Anyone who has seen Julianne Nicholson in "Mare of Easttown" or "Janet Planet" knows she is really good at portraying grief. In her new show "Paradise," she plays Sinatra, a heartbroken tech billionaire trying to micromanage the end of the world. She's an evil genius who is also a little bit funny. She shares with Rachel an early memory of "outhouse beauty" and her secret to social situations.

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2025-04-10
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Elizabeth Olsen idolizes idleness

Elizabeth Olsen is most famous for her role as Wanda Maximoff in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. But she says her own taste is reflected in indie films she's starred in like "His Three Daughters" and the new sci-fi thriller "The Assessment." She shares with Rachel why she's terrified of dying but is fascinated with death and the joy of idle people watching.

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2025-04-03
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John Green still has hope

John Green keeps busy ? from authoring blockbuster young adult novels like "The Fault in Our Stars," to running a YouTube empire with his brother Hank, to publishing his latest nonfiction book, "Everything Is Tuberculosis." His projects share one key goal: to make the world "suck less." John talks to Rachel about how he battles despair and why he's unconcerned with the question of God's existence.

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2025-03-27
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Uzo Aduba can do anything... except for the butterfly stroke

From a young age, Uzo Aduba's parents taught her that she could do anything. That confidence has led to some iconic performances ? from Suzanne "Crazy Eyes" Warren in "Orange Is the New Black," to Shirley Chisholm in "Mrs. America," to her lead role in the newest Shonda Rhimes production, "The Residence." Uzo talks to Rachel about how motherhood shaped her and why she's made peace with mortality.

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2025-03-20
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For Natasha Rothwell improv is like prayer

Natasha Rothwell can't help but collaborate. She honed her improv skills at the Tokyo Comedy Store which led her to roles in memorable ensemble casts on "Insecure" and "How to Die Alone." Now, her character Belinda is back in the new season of "The White Lotus." Natasha talks with Rachel about bringing her own ideas to the show, the spiritual power of improv and what she's learned about love.

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2025-03-13
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Zadie Smith lives more in the world than on the page

London today is very different from the one Zadie Smith grew up in and the one she wrote about in her debut novel "White Teeth." That is just one of the things Smith is grappling with 25 years after her best-selling book's debut. She talks to Rachel about the difficulty of revisiting the first few pages of "White Teeth," the wisdom only teenagers possess, and fighting despair with crème brûlée.

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2025-03-06
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Bowen Yang thinks being present is overrated (encore)

This week we're revisiting our episode with comedian Bowen Yang. The "SNL" cast member and "Las Culturistas" podcast co-host had a big year between being in the film adaptation of "Wicked" and the "Saturday Night Live" 50th anniversary special. He talked with Rachel last spring about living too much in the present, the risks of being real and why the afterlife will definitely have roller coasters.

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2025-02-27
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Natalie Morales is trying to shake the "should"

When Natalie Morales was a kid growing up in Miami, she didn't just have a mango stand, she ran an entire mango monopoly. She's dreamed big ever since, finding success as an actor ("Parks and Recreation," "No Hard Feelings") and director ("Language Lessons," "Plan B"). She chats with Rachel about her new film, "My Dead Friend Zoe" and the important life lesson she learned from her dog, Taco.

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2025-02-20
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Ronny Chieng is still chasing the perfect joke

Comedian Ronny Chieng's original path wasn't to become a correspondent on "The Daily Show." Plan A was to be a lawyer in Australia. But when he couldn't get a job in law, he turned to comedy as a backup. He talks to Rachel about his path to success and how he's more like his parents than he realized. His new stand-up special is "Ronny Chieng: Love to Hate It."

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2025-02-13
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Ke Huy Quan is still proving he's good enough

Ke Huy Quan was born in Vietnam, but his family fled the country and eventually settled in the U.S. as refugees. Not long after arriving, Quan was cast in "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" and "The Goonies." He then struggled for years until "Everything Everywhere All at Once" came along. Quan talks to Rachel about his new action film, "Love Hurts," self doubt and love at first sight.

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2025-02-06
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Jesse Eisenberg sprinkles trouble throughout his day

Jesse Eisenberg plays characters who spend a lot of time in their heads grappling with anxiety, fear and insecurity. You can see it in "The Squid and the Whale," "Zombieland" and his latest film, the Oscar-nominated "A Real Pain." He chats with Rachel about how anxiety plays into his own life, as well as his unique use of ChatGPT, his pro basketball aspirations and the virtues of true boredom.

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2025-01-30
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Michael Shannon thinks you look ridiculous when you shout

Michael Shannon grew up a kid of divorced parents, shuttling between Kentucky and Illinois and never quite fitting in. In his conversation with Rachel, the "The Shape of Water" and "Boardwalk Empire" star discusses his experience being a "loner" in childhood, and finding solace in the music of R.E.M. and acting. He also discusses how his directorial debut, "Eric Larue," brought out his inner child.

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2025-01-23
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Remembering David Lynch ? Producer's Cut

David Lynch, the visionary filmmaker behind "Mulholland Drive," "Eraserhead" and "Twin Peaks" has died. We're remembering him with a listen back to his Wild Card episode from last summer, now with an additional question about his thoughts on the afterlife. Rachel and David also touch on his love for transcendental meditation and his fractured adolescence.

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The light and dark of Ted Danson (encore)

We're listening back this week to our conversation with actor Ted Danson. Ted seems like he's everywhere these days. He's the host of the podcast, "Where Everybody Knows Your Name," stars in the Netflix show, "A Man on the Inside," and was given the Carol Burnett Award at the 2025 Golden Globes. In this conversation, Ted goes deep with Rachel on aging, marriage and what he calls "karmic poo."

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