Get ready for a conversation that goes beyond boardrooms!

Jason Bloomfield, Global Head of Change and Experience Design at Ericsson, brings over 20 years of experience from roles at M&G PLC, Prudential Financial, and MetLife. From navigating M&A integrations to reshaping direct-to-consumer strategies, he?s seen it all in organizational transformation.

In this episode, Jason shares deeply personal moments?like how his parents? separation shaped his resilience?and how he transforms challenges into opportunities. Whether you?re facing change at work or in life, Jason?s insights will resonate and inspire.

0:36?It's All About Giving Back

4:02?From Upper Middle Class to Crash Course in Adulting: Why Unwanted Life Experiences Can Be Your Best Teachers

?I was in the middle of high school, where focus on study really needs to ramp up. Instead, I was learning home economics by necessity and dealing with my parents? rapidly deteriorating relationship.?

14:04?Building Resilient Relationships: Navigating Anxiety and Fear During Mergers & Acquisitions

17:26?Being human: How is it possible to scale empathy to 100,000 people across 180 countries?

24:44?Navigating Company Pride: When Heritage Turns into Hurdles

?It?s quite a thing to come into a company that has 140, 150 years behind it. Pride can at times obscure a line of sight on the way forward.?

31:11?Asking the Right Questions: The Surprising Reasons Retirees Didn?t Want to Go Paperless

?We thought retirees were less digitally comfortable, but it turns out it was a trust issue?without something physical, they feared companies might alter their records behind the scenes.

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If you?ve ever felt like a misfit?an introvert, an ADHDer, a rebel, or a frustrated change-maker?this two-part series is for you. Our guest, Sara Lobkovich, proudly identifies with these groups and has turned her unique perspective into a source of strength.

After months of writing, Sara has crafted two books that combine her lived experiences and sharp business strategies. Her mission is clear: help others activate their inner strategist and chase ambitious goals with authenticity and clarity.

In Part 1, we?ll uncover Sara?s personal journey, from struggles to breakthroughs, and how her experiences shaped her purpose. Part 2 will delve into the books?her motivations, her audience, and the impact she hopes to create.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

"This book is a love letter to me earlier in my career. I know I'm not alone. I know there are so many other people who are having experiences like I did.

If I had written this earlier in my life, if I had somehow had the capacity to write this earlier in my life, I would have written a book to people who are strategically wired and feel like they don't fit in a world that's really focused on tactics to people who feel like square pegs in their careers, like we're always a square peg trying to fit into a round hole and just don't fit in."

Two Books, One Mission: Simplifying Strategy and Goal Setting

?I realized I had two books: one is the No BS OKRs workbook, and the other is about modernized, human-centered strategic planning.?

The Moment ?You Are a Strategist? Became the Book Title I Had to Write

?I knew the title had to be ?You Are a Strategist.? I rewrote the book to deliver on that title.?

Empowering Your Inner Strategist: No Matter What Job You Do

?You might be a dishwasher, noticing things in the restaurant?there?s strategy in everything we do.?

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If you?ve ever felt like a misfit?an introvert, an ADHDer, a rebel, or a frustrated change-maker?this two-part series is for you. Our guest, Sara Lobkovich, proudly identifies with these groups and has turned her unique perspective into a source of strength.

After months of writing, Sara has crafted two books that combine her lived experiences and sharp business strategies. Her mission is clear: help others activate their inner strategist and chase ambitious goals with authenticity and clarity.

In Part 1, we?ll uncover Sara?s personal journey, from struggles to breakthroughs, and how her experiences shaped her purpose. Part 2 will delve into the books?her motivations, her audience, and the impact she hopes to create.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

?I successfully petitioned the cafeteria ladies for milk equality? so that the bag lunch kids could also have chocolate milk on Friday.?

Job Hopping or Scanning? Redefining a Nonlinear Career

?They called it job hopping, but my career coach reframed it as being a ?scanner? with lots of interests. Turns out, I wasn?t hopping, I was just too excited to make things better!?

The Burnout Chronicles: From Always-On-the-Go to Needing a Why

?I was that guy on the plane, always on the go. My dog lived with my parents for way too long. That lifestyle led me to burnout, and I realized I needed to do things differently.?

Curiosity as a Cure: How Staying Curious Helped Me Avoid Feeling Stuck

?Curiosity is an antidote to stuckness and anxiety. Later in my career, I developed the ability to always have a playground in my brain?something to learn.?

Turning a Job Disappointment into an MBA in Enterprise Politics

?Instead of feeling frustrated, I reframed my experience as a mini MBA in navigating large political organizations with resistance to change.?

Strategy Isn?t About Being the Smartest in the Room?It?s About Asking the Right Questions

?Being a strategist is not just being the smartest person in the room. It?s having a toolkit of questions that uncover facts, spark insight, and develop ideas.?

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Today, we continue our two-part journey with Erika Ayers Badan, the CEO of Food52 and Barstool Sports? first CEO. From her early roles at Fidelity, Microsoft, AOL, and Yahoo to leading innovative brands, Erika?s career is packed with stories and lessons that resonate.

In Part One, we delved into her debut book, No One Cares About Your Career, exploring why she wrote it and the practical wisdom it offers for thriving in any workplace.

Now, in Part Two, Erika goes deeper?reflecting on her roots, her leadership style, and her take on addressing toxic work environments. Plus, she shares something you won?t hear elsewhere: the career advice she gives her middle and high school-aged kids in a world that?s constantly changing.

Blame It on the Parents? How Childhood Shaped a Love for Teaching and a Struggle with Authority

?I really love to teach. I think my parents, who were in education, gave me that. I also have a fairly strange relationship with authority. I think that also comes from my childhood.?

Do Titles Really Matter? Confessions of a CEO Who Once Cared A Lot

?I don?t really care about titles. It?s a little bit hypocritical because the CEO is a great title. I did care a lot about titles in the hustle years where I was really trying to advance. You should always endeavour to take on more than you had six months ago. Are you doing the same exact thing you did six months ago, without learning, or growing, or tripping on yourself, or taking on something you didn?t know exactly how to do??

Why Failure Is a Good Thing: Tripping Over Yourself Is Part of the Plan

What?s Your Leadership Style? Finding the Balance Between Boss and Buddy

Toxic Workplace or Just a Bad Day? Getting Real About Fixing Office Culture

?I think that people throw the term toxic workplace around a lot. I?m not sure what it means anymore. I would try to spend as much time as I can to get specifics ? what?s going on??

Career Advice for My Teenage Kids: Balancing Business and Life Lessons

What?s Next After ?No One Cares?? Teasing the Next Passion Project

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Erika Ayers Badan, CEO of Food52, joins me for the first part of a compelling two-part series. With a career spanning Barstool Sports, Microsoft, AOL, and Yahoo, Erika is no stranger to bold moves and big titles. But this episode isn?t about resumes?it?s about stories. Erika?s journey is filled with lessons that inspired her first book, No One Cares About Your Career. Intrigued by the title? So was I.

In this episode (Part One), we?ll dive into her book?why she wrote it, why now, and why this title resonates. We?ll also explore five actionable tips anyone can use to succeed at work.

In Part Two, we?ll step behind the scenes of her life, discussing her upbringing, leadership style, and her take on toxic work cultures. Plus, she?ll share the advice she?s giving her own kids about thriving in today?s fast-changing world.

Revisiting the Roots: A Walk Down Memory Lane to Discover the Past?s Impact on the Present

The Brutal Truth Behind ?No One Cares About Your Career??How Did Erika Land on That Mic-Drop of a Title?

"Nobody's coming to help you. It's up to you to save yourself, grow yourself, push yourself, teach yourself."

What Sparked the Inspiration Behind Writing the Book?

What Makes This Book a Game Changer in a Sea of Career Guides?

Who Is This Book Really For? Unpacking the Audience Behind the Pages

"Just because you went to Princeton doesn't mean you have to go work in finance. A lot of times people get caught up in what everyone else thinks they should do. That's the lore. What everyone else thinks they should be and the reality is that nobody's really thinking about you that much. You should do what makes you happy and tell everyone else to jump off a cliff."

30 Years, 5 Simple Lessons: How to Succeed at Work Without the Overwhelm

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Christopher Quek has always sought to chart his own course.

In this two-part series, we unpack his remarkable journey. Chris, a third-generation member of a well-established family business in Singapore, chose to walk away from family expectations to pursue entrepreneurship in Malaysia. After returning to Singapore, he sold his inheritance to launch TRIVE, a venture capital firm that reflects his vision and independence.

Last episode looked into his quest for self-identity?the reasons behind his bold moves and how he made them a reality.

This time, we?ll discuss his current work as a VC investor, his ambitions for the entrepreneurial landscape in Southeast Asia, and his thoughts on legacy and family at this stage in his life.

Kicking off with a big question: Is Singapore still relevant after 50 years? Here's an entrepreneurial view

"In 2015, when Singapore celebrated its 50th birthday as a nation. Singapore evolved itself out of necessity where it built a whole nation, a workforce of engineers, scientists, bankers, lawyers, doctors, specialists. We started losing a whole generation of entrepreneurs."

Bridging the Generation Gap: How to Turn ?Parents? Old Ways? into a Future-Proof Family Business

"I actually have a network of over 300 family business owners across Southeast Asia. And there's always this common themes that starts first.  Number one, how do I talk to my parents? How do I have a good working relationship with my parents and a family relationship back at home?  Number two, I don't like the way that my parents are doing things and I need to transform this business. How do I convince my parents that I can transform this business as well?"

Turning Spare Millions into Family Business Magic: The Synergy Cycle of Tech, Money and Southeast Asian Economy

"Everyone gets to have food on the table. What we didn't realize that what this family business did was that it took that technology, have more food, more quantity, and decided to sell it cheaper to a poorer province, where those villagers were now able to obtain more quantity of food for their families."

Breaking the Patriarchal Mold: How Self-Development Earned Me My Father?s Respect

"My father has been an Asian patriarch with an iron fist. He now talks to me about the side businesses that he's doing. He asks me as his advisor and no longer sees the son on whom he used to look down."

Still Figuring It Out: The Never-Ending Saga of Self-Discovery

"I still believe that I'm evolving. I'm still learning more in terms of understanding my identity."

Fatherhood and Fortune: What?s the Game Plan for Your Next Generation, Chris?

"Anybody who wants to help the next generation is to be a mentor of values rather than a mentor of processes."

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Christopher Quek has always sought to chart his own course.

In this two-part series, we unpack his remarkable journey. Chris, a third-generation member of a well-established family business in Singapore, chose to walk away from family expectations to pursue entrepreneurship in Malaysia. After returning to Singapore, he sold his inheritance to launch TRIVE, a venture capital firm that reflects his vision and independence.

This episode delves into his quest for self-identity?the reasons behind his bold moves and how he made them a reality.

Next time, we?ll discuss his current work as a VC investor, his ambitions for the entrepreneurial landscape in Southeast Asia, and his thoughts on legacy and family at this stage in his life.

Father?s Furious Expectations: When a Third-Gen Heir Sneaks Out of the Family Business

"I couldn't stand all the pollution that the manufacturing plant was producing. And finally, after three days, I sneaked back to Singapore and my father saw me. He got angry. He shouted at me."

Family Education 101: Learning P&L Over Dinner with Dad, Where Burgers Come with a Side of Calculating Profits

"He would take me out to restaurants. And he forced me to start calculating out the revenues. He will start telling me like, what do you think is the expenses behind this? And I had to start learning a profit and loss statement just by that very visible conversation itself."

Beyond the Textbook: How Mentorship Shaped Chris' Evolution

"I'm a product of my mentors in my life. So I'm the number two and number three mentors were also very successful businessmen."

Owning My Identity: Mr. Quek or Just Mr. Quek?s Son?

"There was already a trigger point in my value system that was I going to continue as a the next generation of business owners to continue polluting, just to make money for the sake of money."

Finding My Way: From Circumstances to Self-Fulfilment

"It was more of circumstances and situations and opportunities that just appeared.  If you ask me like some certain crossroads in my life, for example, heading off to Malaysia instead of China I felt that was the right thing to do."

The Adventure of Self-Discovery: Uncovering Hidden Layers of Yourself at Every Stage

"Give you a little bit of the element of what at every stage is about really discovering yourself, which is really an exciting journey. You don't realize that you have actually a lot of things about yourself that you haven't discovered. "

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What happens when two Vinces meet? A show filled with bold ideas, heartfelt stories, and actionable insights.

Vince Chan welcomes Vince Jeong, CEO of Sparkwise, to discuss his evolution from a young immigrant navigating culture shock at 12 to an industry disruptor leading an edtech revolution. Along the way, Vince J reveals his mission to scale human connection in corporate training and bring McKinsey-level development to the masses.

With lessons on overcoming challenges, innovating in people development, and rethinking adult learning, this is an episode designed to spark your ambition and redefine what?s possible.

Immigrant Experience 101: Learning English and Rediscovering Myself at Age 12

Learning by Doing: The Best Way to Discover What You Really Want. Why Theorizing Only Gets You So Far.

?I?ve often found that you can only really discover and learn your true preferences by gaining first-hand experience. Theorizing only gets you so far.?

Bringing McKinsey?s Gold Standard to Everyone: The Spark Behind Creating an EdTech for Live Group Learning

?At McKinsey, people fought to get onto training programs. It was interactive, engaging, and team-based. I thought that?s what corporate training looked like everywhere?until I saw the difference in other organizations.?

From TV Host to Startup Boss: The Founder-Market Fit of Live Group Learning

?Throughout my life, I?ve just been involved in a lot of things that involve live groups. I used to be on TV in Korea, hosting live shows and facilitating conversations.?

Differentiation Value to Create: Scaling the Unscalable

"What we're doing is we're taking that experience that today can only be accessed by really privileged settings and making it much more accessible to many more people through technology."

Rebuilding Stronger Community: Foster Real Connections Beyond Social Media?s Shallow Bonds

?We create an environment where people solve problems together that are realistic but fictitious, which helps them engage deeply without having to be vulnerable from the get-go.?

Partners in Crime: Those Who Crave Rich Interactions or Scale Quality Learning at a Bargain

Turning Idle Content into Action: Beating AI with Human-to-Human Engagement for Deeper Learning

?There?s a lot of idle content out there today, and simply reading is rarely the best way for people to actually understand those concepts.?

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Part Two.

Sihame El Kaouakibi is not our average guest. As our first speaker from Belgium, she?s a Moroccan immigrant who has faced and conquered burnout, bankruptcy, and countless challenges. A parliamentarian, diversity advocate, creator of Women Leaders OS, and leadership coach, she represents the epitome of transformation.

What makes Sihame truly special is her mindset. She doesn?t just endure adversity?she embraces it, describing herself as ?anti-fragile.? Her ability to transform hardships into strengths is something we can all learn from. Part One dropped yesterday, and get ready for Part Two today.

Burnt Out, Bankrupt, and Back in Business

?I went from being burnt out, confused, overwhelmed, and even bankrupt to now being in the best shape of my life?physically, mentally, and professionally.?

Validation Detox: Kicking the Need for External Approval

?Without success, without my work, without external validation and recognition, I felt like nothing. I felt nobody.?

Politics 101: When Ego Meets Reality

?I made an ego-driven decision, and it was a messiah complex, believing I had everything?like potential and talents to drive change.?

?I wasn?t aligned with my values and beliefs anymore. So my lesson is if you feel you have to give up on your principles, quit.?

Thriving vs. Surviving: Why ?You?re Not Stuck, You?re Just in the Wrong Pot? Applies to Your Career

?The most liberating decision can be to move on and find your tribe, find your environment where you can thrive.?

?Sometimes it?s better to accept the rejection than feeling stuck. Rejection can be redirection, and it?s sometimes better to just leave.?

Operating System for Women Leaders: How to Handle Life?s Curveballs Without Crashing

?My mission is to help 1 million women turn life challenges into life changes for the better. These women want to break through in their careers, but they want to do it without the burnouts.?

?Women still lack internal beliefs and also support systems. So it starts really with women deciding that they are worthy and willing to change.?

Success Isn?t Always Instagram-Pretty: The Ugly Side of the Hustle

?There?s so much about glamorized success, but there is always another side. People you envy might be in deep pain, even if they are millionaires or have social status.?

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Part One.

Sihame El Kaouakibi is not our average guest. As our first speaker from Belgium, she?s a Moroccan immigrant who has faced and conquered burnout, bankruptcy, and countless challenges. A parliamentarian, diversity advocate, creator of Women Leaders OS, and leadership coach, she represents the epitome of transformation.

What makes Sihame truly special is her mindset. She doesn?t just endure adversity?she embraces it, describing herself as ?anti-fragile.? Her ability to transform hardships into strengths is something we can all learn from. Tune in to Part One now, and get ready for Part Two tomorrow.

Burnt Out, Bankrupt, and Back in Business

?I went from being burnt out, confused, overwhelmed, and even bankrupt to now being in the best shape of my life?physically, mentally, and professionally.?

Validation Detox: Kicking the Need for External Approval

?Without success, without my work, without external validation and recognition, I felt like nothing. I felt nobody.?

Politics 101: When Ego Meets Reality

?I made an ego-driven decision, and it was a messiah complex, believing I had everything?like potential and talents to drive change.?

?I wasn?t aligned with my values and beliefs anymore. So my lesson is if you feel you have to give up on your principles, quit.?

Thriving vs. Surviving: Why ?You?re Not Stuck, You?re Just in the Wrong Pot? Applies to Your Career

?The most liberating decision can be to move on and find your tribe, find your environment where you can thrive.?

?Sometimes it?s better to accept the rejection than feeling stuck. Rejection can be redirection, and it?s sometimes better to just leave.?

Operating System for Women Leaders: How to Handle Life?s Curveballs Without Crashing

?My mission is to help 1 million women turn life challenges into life changes for the better. These women want to break through in their careers, but they want to do it without the burnouts.?

?Women still lack internal beliefs and also support systems. So it starts really with women deciding that they are worthy and willing to change.?

Success Isn?t Always Instagram-Pretty: The Ugly Side of the Hustle

?There?s so much about glamorized success, but there is always another side. People you envy might be in deep pain, even if they are millionaires or have social status.?

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What if universities worked together instead of competing like contestants on a reality TV show?

In this episode, we explore the ?Higher Ed Hunger Games,? where rivalry rules the day. Dr. Bridget Burns, CEO of the University Innovation Alliance (UIA) and host of The Innovating Together Podcast, shares her journey from a small-town upbringing in rural America to becoming a trailblazer in educational reform. Her mission? To unite academic institutions, boost graduation rates, and create better employment opportunities for low-income students?all through collaboration and innovation. No drama, just teamwork.

Who Actually Likes Change? Spoiler: No One

?Everyone who says they like change is a liar. You only like change that is your idea and that you actively participate in creating.?

30:07?Mending Hearts in the Office: When Leaders Turn into Heartbreakers

"There are a lot of people walking around with broken hearts because they?ve had a leader who?s betrayed them."

33:39?The AI Rat Race: Why Can?t We All Just Get Along?

"This natural tendency to compete with each other. There?s like an arms race and that?s what?s happening with AI.?

38:41?From Cap and Gown to Capable and Grown: Reinventing the Grad-to-Gig Highway

"There should be coaches for faculty to embed career readiness into every single classroom, starting from the first class a student takes."

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What if universities worked together instead of competing like contestants on a reality TV show?

In this episode, we explore the ?Higher Ed Hunger Games,? where rivalry rules the day. Dr. Bridget Burns, CEO of the University Innovation Alliance (UIA) and host of The Innovating Together Podcast, shares her journey from a small-town upbringing in rural America to becoming a trailblazer in educational reform. Her mission? To unite academic institutions, boost graduation rates, and create better employment opportunities for low-income students?all through collaboration and innovation. No drama, just teamwork.

Overcoming Adversity: Bridget's Journey from Isolation to Empowerment

?I grew up in a cul de sac of racism, homophobia, misogyny?very rural America?and getting out was super important.?

Problem in Universities: Unveiling the Diffusion of Innovation Problem

?We don?t know if what we?re doing is any good, or how to scale it.?

Higher Ed Hunger Games: Tackling the Cutthroat Competition

"Higher education is highly competitive, hierarchical, set up to pit you against others, which leaves very little space to share about shared problems."

Real Change or Just for Show? Scouting for True Innovators in Academia

"We need to figure out who else is a worker bee, who's interested in doing the really hard stuff and not just drawn to the image."

Who Actually Likes Change? Spoiler: No One

?Everyone who says they like change is a liar. You only like change that is your idea and that you actively participate in creating.?

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This is the final instalment of our three-part series, ?Love and Logic.?

We spotlight Waverly Deutsch, an inspiring member of the LGBTQ community and a fierce advocate for women entrepreneurs. From theater enthusiast to PhD, STEM scholar to MBA professor, and now a retiree turned venture coach, Waverly?s multifaceted identity shines through in everything she does. Often called the ?Simon Cowell of Chicago Booth,? she pairs candid feedback with actionable strategies, a hallmark of her work at WyseHeart Advisory, where she uplifts underrepresented entrepreneurs with passion and purpose.

A Coach?s Secret Weapon

?The key to trust and transformation in coaching lies in active listening. People often speak in long, winding narratives. The magic is in boiling it down to the core message?a few sentences that make them feel truly understood and heard. By distilling and refining, you don?t just hear?they feel heard, understood, and empowered to act.?

AI Can Polish, But Can?t Replace the Human Spark

?AI can help craft a polished pitch or refine a resume, but it can?t simulate the deep understanding and personal experience that resonate in real-life interactions. The investor meeting? That?s where your own knowledge and authenticity come into play.?

The Dating Analogy for Entrepreneurs

?Pitching to investors is like dating. The 10-minute pitch? That?s the coffee date. The in-depth meeting? That?s the dinner date. The term sheet? That?s the engagement ring. True commitment comes when the contracts are signed and the check is in the bank.?

The Age and Cost Equation

?Older professionals face a harsh reality: companies often trade senior salaries for multiple junior hires. This economic shift means adapting, whether through freelancing, consulting, or pursuing entirely new avenues of work.?

Consulting as the Bridge

?Many transitioning entrepreneurs find opportunities as consultants. Whether it?s an interim CFO role or building sales strategies, the key is to be willing to revisit foundational work while leveraging years of expertise to establish credibility in new ventures.?

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Ever had a mentor who became more than just a coach, someone who changed your perspective and your path?

This is Part 2 of ?Love and Logic,? our special three-part Pride Month podcast series celebrating authenticity and transformation. Waverly Deutsch, a proud LGBTQ advocate and champion of women entrepreneurs, shares her incredible journey?from theater enthusiast to PhD, STEM major to MBA professor, and now, a venture-building coach and founder of WyseHeart Advisory. Known for her candid yet constructive feedback, Waverly?s tough love inspires transformative growth for entrepreneurs worldwide.

Blending Heart and Head

?Whether it?s calming executives? cautious approaches or reining in overly ambitious young entrepreneurs, success lies in balancing heart (vision) with head (practicality). It?s about building a compelling story that resonates with both emotions and logic.?

Executives: Breaking the Incremental Mold

?Executives often pitch ideas that feel safe but lack innovation. They?re so aware of corporate barriers that their creativity gets stifled. My role? Push them to think beyond incremental improvements and aim for groundbreaking changes that truly stand out.?

?Executives often present highly calculated plans??$5 million investment for $7 million returns.? While safe, it doesn?t excite investors. Encouraging them to aim higher, to envision $50 million, injects the passion and ambition their pitches often lack.?

Unleashing Undergraduate Imagination

?Undergraduates are brimming with ideas because they haven?t yet encountered the roadblocks of the corporate world. The challenge is teaching them the process?how to take their boundless creativity and add logic, research, and structure to turn dreams into sustainable ventures.?

Overzealous Optimism Meets Reality

?On the flip side, young entrepreneurs brim with optimism, promising billion-dollar outcomes for modest investments. The challenge? Bringing logic into their bold dreams?helping them see the steps, resources, and realistic pathways to scale.?

The Power of Experimentation

?Sometimes, all it takes is encouraging an entrepreneur to think bigger?just as an exercise. That simple shift in perspective can unlock enormous potential, as it did with Simple Mills, now a model for blending passion and pragmatism to scale innovation.?

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Kicking off our ?Love and Logic? series, Part 1 features Waverly Deutsch, who shares how her career and life choices have been shaped by a blend of passion and reason. This episode unpacks her journey, with the following installments focusing on her impact at Chicago Booth and her entrepreneurial coaching with WyseHeart Advisory, driven by ?tough love for entrepreneurs.?

Why Waverly?

Known for her direct approach, Waverly has earned the nickname ?the Simon Cowell of Chicago Booth,? but with a key difference?her feedback always comes with actionable solutions. She might point out, ?You just talked for ten minutes and we have no idea what you do,? but she?ll also say, ?Here?s what we can do to make it crystal clear.? That?s the hallmark of her coaching?honest, constructive, and deeply invested in your success.

A Love for Theater and Logic

?I fell in love with theater and acting as a child. My mother and I would go to the theater together?it was a special time for us. At the same time, I was good at math and logic puzzles. I ended up with two majors, one in theater and one in computer science. They were separate disciplines, but in my mind, I was always bringing them together.?

The Gut-Driven Leap

?At 29, with a fresh PhD, analysis didn?t guide my career move. Joining Forrester was pure gut instinct. I saw it as a chance to dive back into technology, learn from brilliant people, and expand my horizons?no spreadsheets, no market evaluations, just a leap of faith.?

Academia or Impact? The Career Crossroads

?Graduating with a PhD in theater history during a recession, teaching jobs were scarce. Colleges were cutting back on theater programs, and the research focus in humanities felt too esoteric. I wanted to do something more contemporary, more impactful.?

Burnout and Breakthroughs

?After nearly eight years at Forrester, experiencing explosive growth, an IPO, and 60-hour weeks, I needed a reset. By 1999, I was ready for a new direction and decided to approach my next move more strategically.?

Empathy for Everyone

?Emotions aren?t just a ?women?s thing.? I?ve sat with many men who?ve cried during challenging discussions. The key is understanding that emotions are human, not a weakness, and they have a place in even the most logic-driven conversations.?

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What happens when a media mogul trades the spotlight for purpose?

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

MTV: From a Dream to Daily Life

?Watching MTV as a kid, I thought, ?That?s the dream.? By 2003, I was living it. From Portugal to London, I went from fan to colleague?working with my idols and hanging out with heroes.?

A Front-Row Seat to Media Transformation

?From analog to digital, concerts to streaming, I?ve been at the frontline of media?s biggest shift. And yes, I saw REM?s last concert?jealous yet? Launching MTV Portugal, mentoring MTV Base Africa, bringing MTV Italy and Greece to life?it was a whirlwind of concerts, launches, and 1 billion viewers streaming the EMAs from Lisbon.?

The Dark Side of the Spotlight

?Being immersed in the industry, I witnessed its pitfalls. Amy Winehouse, a radiant talent, was in the wrong hands. Seeing how brilliance was overshadowed by exploitation made me question the industry?s priorities. When Amy died, it wasn?t just a loss; it was a wake-up call. I couldn?t be part of a system that profits from pain. That day, I knew?I needed to change the game.?

A Quest for a Better Industry

?Creativity deserves care, not exploitation. That realization sparked a mission to create spaces where artistry thrives without the shadows of industry?s darker sides.?

Designing Society, One Summit at a Time

?As a self-proclaimed ?designer for society,? I worked with governments and innovators to connect tourism and tech. The Web Summit is proof that big ideas and small countries can make magic.?

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Imagine losing your job, your car, your home?and on top of it all, surviving a heart attack. That was Michael Levitt?s reality more than ten years ago, caused by the silent epidemic of burnout.

Now, as the Chief Burnout Officer and Founder of Breakfast Leadership Network, Michael has transformed his life?s biggest challenges into a mission to help others. With a career spanning accounting, finance, IT, healthcare, and more, he?s authored Burnout Proof and hosts a Top 200 podcast, sharing strategies for navigating stress in work and life.

Turning Pain into Purpose

?Burnout gave me the business idea I never wanted but absolutely needed. Now, I help others dodge the burnout bullet. It?s fulfilling work, though I wouldn?t mind a world where burnout is just a myth.?

Reboot, Don?t Overhaul

?Burnout recovery doesn?t require burning your whole life down. Most people don?t need a dramatic reinvention?they just need a couple of tweaks. Think of it as upgrading your OS, not switching to a whole new system.?

Secrets of the C-Suite

?Burnout among executives is a taboo topic. Publicly traded CEOs can?t just say, ?I?m burnt out,? without sending their stock into a tailspin. My job? Help them recover in secret, like the James Bond of workplace wellness.?

Sleep: The Real Magic Pill

?Forget apps and quick fixes?good sleep is the ultimate burnout buster. Invest in a killer mattress, toss your phone out of the bedroom, and let your body do its thing. Pro tip: A real alarm clock beats your buzzing smartphone every time.?

Food Matters (And Yes, That Includes the Red Page)

?Turns out, your body might hate your favorite foods. A food intolerance test revealed my love for certain snacks wasn?t mutual. Now, I dodge the red-listed foods like a ninja and feel way better for it.?

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What would you do if you were a top legal counsel managing billion-dollar financial transactions and leading a global team of 50 at the world?s largest banking groups?

Born and raised in Paris, Fatou left her high-flying legal career at Societe Generale and BNP Paribas to return to her roots in Senegal. With her husband and two children, she traded a life of glamour in Paris for the challenges of driving economic and technological growth in Africa.

Now the founder and CEO of New Deal Consulting, and a former advisor to the Senegalese President, Fatou is transforming local opportunities by empowering young talent from Senegal, France, and beyond. Her story is one of bold faith, careful planning, and fearless execution.

Trading Parisian Comfort for Dakar?s Call

?I had a great career in France, but it wasn?t enough. Senegal was calling me?a chance to challenge myself and see if I could truly make a difference in my home country.?

A Legacy for the Next Generation

?As a mother, I wanted my kids to know their roots. To experience Senegal fully, so they can grow up understanding the world without barriers, enriched by both cultures.?

Facing Fears and Finding Support

?I worried about giving up financial security and providing for my kids, but I wasn?t alone. My strong network, including ministers and my husband?s connections, made the transition less daunting.?

Bananas to the Rescue

?Turning banana fiber into sanitary pads? Yep, that?s happening in Senegal. The Luna Na project is about innovation and solving local challenges with global ideas. It?s a first in Senegal and Africa, and it?s changing lives.?

A Vision for Change

?Luna Na isn?t just a project; it?s a movement. It?s about empowering Africa?s youth with opportunities, innovation, and hope for a brighter future. Watching this transformation unfold is my proudest accomplishment.?

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From the Cockpit to the Boardroom: Steve Monaghan?s 30-Year Journey

Tokyo-based Steve Monaghan began his professional life as a commercial pilot before soaring into global finance. Over the past three decades, he?s driven innovation in banking and tech, reshaping industries across Australia, Tokyo, and the Middle East.

His past roles include Chairman & CEO at Gen.Life, Chief Innovation Officer at DBS Bank, and Chief Digital Officer at Riyad Bank. Today, he holds key positions with RAKBANK, FinMir.ai, and several cutting-edge startups, making him a transformative force in the financial world.

The Foreigner?s Lens

?Being an outsider brings a unique perspective?an untainted view of industries and cultures. It?s about seeing things differently, learning from fresh angles, and questioning the norms others might take for granted.?

Immigrant Wisdom - The Dual Edge

?Living as an immigrant since my twenties taught me resilience and adaptability. You?re always learning, always adjusting, and that shapes how you approach leadership and problem-solving.?

From Fear to Understanding

?People don?t resist change because they don?t want it. They resist because they don?t understand it. The journey is about removing fear by turning a ?no? into a ?know??helping them see the benefits and feel confident about the new direction.?

The Advantage of Experience - Ask the Right Questions

?In the generative AI era, older employees often have an edge?they know how to ask better questions. This ability to craft meaningful queries is a huge advantage, especially when navigating tools that rely on prompt engineering.?

?While younger employees might excel in technical adaptability, seasoned professionals bring a different kind of skill: the wisdom to ask the right questions. This balance of experience and curiosity is key to driving innovation forward.?

Engaging Overlooked Talent

?The bank in the Philippines found a surprising strength in its mature staff. When engaged and empowered, they contributed significantly to innovation, proving that tech adoption isn?t about age but about the opportunity to learn and apply.?

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What compels someone to leave the stability and prestige of a CFO role at IBM Europe for the unknowns of a 16-person startup?

For Josh Geballe, it was the thrill of challenge and the promise of making a real impact. His 30-year career reflects this relentless pursuit of meaningful work.

From managing finance at IBM to leading Core Informatics as CEO, from VP at Thermo Fisher Scientific to COO of Connecticut?s COVID-19 response, Josh has consistently embraced complex problems with courage and determination. Currently, as Managing Director at Yale Ventures, he is creating pathways for entrepreneurs and innovators, all while continuing to push boundaries.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Big Corporate to Small Chaos

?Jumping from one of the world?s biggest companies to a 16-person startup was like going from a luxury cruise to a whitewater raft. Every day brought new challenges?chasing customers, closing funding rounds, and ensuring payroll didn?t bounce. It wasn?t for the faint-hearted, but I embraced the chaos because it was exactly the dynamic challenge I craved.?

The Two Engines of Growth: Impact and Challenge

?My career choices boil down to two drivers: solving meaningful problems that make a positive impact on society and embracing challenges that push me to grow personally and professionally. It?s how I?ve turned a seemingly unusual career journey into a purposeful adventure.?

Gut Instinct: The Silent Strategist

?For all the logic and strategy in career decisions, sometimes it comes down to a gut feeling. Big moves in my career have often hinged on an instinctual ?yes? or ?no,? and I?ve been fortunate that those instincts have steered me right?no regrets, just leaps of faith.?

Bridging the Academic-Entrepreneurial Divide

?Helping brilliant minds shift from academic jargon to investor-friendly pitches is a key part of the role. It?s all about connecting ideas to resources?whether that?s investors, teammates, or future opportunities. And for students? It?s about teaching them to innovate and navigate their career paths, with or without a startup dream right now.?

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Ryota Tanozaki began his career selling shochu at Suntory. Fast forward 20 years, and he?s now the President and CEO of Tabist (formerly OYO Japan), leading the tech revolution for over 90,000 Japanese hotels.

His impressive resume includes roles as Strategy Consultant at BearingPoint, Product Manager at Hakuhodo Consulting, General Manager at Transcosmos, and leadership positions at Facebook as Head of Instagram and Vertical Industry.

A seasoned executive, Ryota also shares his expertise as a part-time instructor at Globis University.

We first connected during our Executive MBA at Chicago Booth (2013?2015), and I?m thrilled to share his incredible journey.

Navigating the Storm

?Three months into my role at Tavist, COVID hit. I had to lead a restructuring?redefining the organization, renegotiating contracts, and crafting a new mission, vision, and strategy. Perseverance became not just a word but a lifeline.?

Adapting to Change

?COVID brought challenges I couldn?t foresee, yet it became a proving ground. Four years later, I?m still here, knowing that persistence shapes both leaders and the organizations they guide.?

When Purpose Pays Better Than Paychecks

?Our team can?t match the salaries of big tech giants, but what we offer is purpose. By sharing our mission?empowering small and medium-sized hotels in rural Japan through technology?we create a connection that resonates deeply with our people.?

Walking the Talk: When Leaders Roll Up Their Sleeves

?A leader who pitches directly to clients? Now that?s commitment. By personally visiting rural cities and convincing potential partners, I showed my team that execution starts at the top. If I can do it, they?re inspired to follow suit?and it makes the mission real for everyone involved.?

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Katie Curry knows a thing or two about managing change?both the planned kind and the ?what just happened?? variety. From Bulgaria to Wall Street, she?s reinvented herself more times than a Broadway actor swapping costumes mid-performance. In this episode, Katie spills the tea on how she keeps thriving while leading, learning, and pivoting.

Her secret sauce? It?s a three-part recipe: 1) Build your superpowers (yes, you have one?it?s just in beta), 2) Choose your squad wisely (no toxic vibes allowed), and 3) Embrace change, but don?t treat it like a trend. Katie reminds us that pivots should be thoughtful, not careless leaps into the void. Think strategy, not drama.

Katie also dives into her Gen Z experiences?raising two at home and leading them at work. Spoiler alert: they?re not just TikTok pros. Gen Z craves meritocracy, speed, and authenticity. And as a leader, Katie?s all about keeping it real while learning a thing or two from her ?reverse mentors.?

This episode isn?t just about career moves or navigating a multigenerational workforce?it?s a call to action to build real relationships, develop human skills, and, most importantly, laugh while you?re at it. Because if Katie can salsa dance through change, you can, too.

Raising Gen Z Insights

?As a mother of two Gen Z kids, I?ve learned patience, adaptability, and the art of balancing guidance with independence?lessons that translate directly into leading younger teams.?

A Shift Toward Meritocracy

?Gen Z values meritocracy over hierarchy. Companies that embrace authenticity, clarity, and speed in execution will thrive. Those that cling to old models risk losing their edge.?

The Power of Reverse Mentorship

?I love working with Gen Z. They?ve taught me more than I could have imagined through reverse mentorship. It?s a two-way street?I share wisdom; they share fresh insights.?

Finding Your Superpower

?Success starts with understanding your strengths. If you don?t know them yet, that?s fine?it?s a process. Focus on gaining skills and developing your unique superpower.?

The Power of Community

?Surround yourself with a diverse community?different generations, experiences, and viewpoints. It makes life richer and challenges you to think beyond your natural boundaries.?

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Katie Curry isn?t just fluent in the language of risk; she?s turned it into an art form.

From Bulgaria to Wall Street, from crunching derivatives to leading creatives, Katie?s journey is a masterclass in calculated reinvention. Whether managing teams of credit analysts, upskilling fresh graduates, or inspiring her kids to ?witness the magic of spreadsheets? during COVID, Katie shows how resilience is more than just a buzzword?it?s a career superpower.

She dives into the delicate dance between logic and intuition, embracing curiosity and even a little magic along the way. For Katie, success isn?t about climbing a ladder?it?s about hiking trails, salsa dancing, and leading with humility while creating impact. With a passion for mentoring and a knack for turning failures into growth opportunities, Katie redefines leadership as a long game of learning, laughter, and post-traumatic growth.

This episode is packed with nuggets on pivoting with purpose, embracing risk, and, most importantly, making resilience look like a fine art. Whether you?re navigating Wall Street or your own career crossroads, Katie?s insights will leave you inspired (and maybe a little braver).

From Small Town Dreams to the Big Apple

?I grew up in a small town in Bulgaria during communism. My first big transformation was coming to the United States. Traveling through New York City?s financial district, I thought, ?One day, I?d love to work here.??

Risk as a Career Compass

?Risk is the theme of my career?understanding it, quantifying it, and mitigating it. But it?s also about taking risks and seizing opportunities.?

Mental Toughness Through Change

?Change can be nerve-wracking, but I?ve learned to approach it with excitement instead of fear. It?s like lifting weights?you don?t just maintain, you grow stronger to tackle even bigger challenges.?

The Joy of Discovery

?With age and experience, I?ve learned to pursue paths less mapped out, finding joy in the unknown and seeing reinvention as a journey of discovery.?

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In this episode, Tin Pei Ling from Singapore unpacks her remarkable journey as a young parliamentarian, MBA graduate, and mother.

From advocating for women?s empowerment to tackling mental health and aging population challenges, Tin?s work embodies resilience and action. Drawing inspiration from Lee Kuan Yew?s leadership principles and her own belief in the power of regret as a driver for growth, she emphasizes the importance of stories, books, and meaningful connections in shaping a better future.

The Three-Stage Change Model

?Change begins with unfreezing?understanding the need and motivation to move forward. But it?s in the second stage, where you think like a social psychologist, that you navigate the hardest part: adapting yourself and your environment. And finally, in refreezing, you solidify the new behaviors and build a foundation for sustainable growth.?

The Power of an MBA Journey

?Pursuing an MBA at a young age gave me a platform to learn from peers with diverse experiences. It wasn?t just the coursework, but the exposure to different perspectives that built the momentum for lifelong learning and growth.?

Advocating for Women?s Aspirations

?Balancing multiple roles isn?t easy, especially for women. My journey as a working mother has inspired me to advocate for better support systems, so women can pursue their dreams without sacrificing their personal or professional growth.?

Balancing Leadership and Motherhood

?There?s no such thing as perfect balance?there are always trade-offs. As a mother, an elected member of parliament, and a full-time professional, I?ve faced moments of guilt, like missing my son?s rapid growth during a general election. But with an ecosystem of support, I?ve managed to fulfill my roles and give back to my community.?

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In this episode, I chat with Ian Myers, founder and CEO of Oceans, a talent agency bridging skilled professionals in Sri Lanka with U.S. companies.

Ian?s impressive journey includes scaling his business from zero to $10 million in under two years, but that?s just the tip of the iceberg.

A fellow Tintin enthusiast, Ian?s career has been an adventure in itself?spanning the U.S., Japan, literature, banking, venture capital, entrepreneurship, and gaming. His mantra? Follow your gut, embrace experiences, adapt, and keep moving forward.

Why Tintin Beats Tech Titans: Ian?s Unconventional Role Model

?My role model is Tintin. He?s always up for an adventure, exploring new places, and embracing different cultures. That?s the kind of life I want to live.?

Zen and the Art of Leadership: How Buddhism Shaped My Approach to Chaos

?Buddhism has a lot of excellent teachings that are applicable to running a business? It?s at its core, a method of grounding yourself through honesty in your reality and the potential of everything around you.?

Comparison Anxiety: Why Scrolling LinkedIn Might Be Ruining Your Life

?I talk to young people today, and they?re always comparing themselves. They?ll say, ?Oh, this person who went to my college is now a vice president. My life is ruined.? I?ve never really worried about my career; I just follow what?s interesting.?

Experiencing Ageism Across Cultures: From Japan to CEO at 26

?In Japan, age almost becomes the most important thing about you?your track record and success play a much smaller role. That was something I couldn?t personally tolerate.?

Skeptical by Nature: Why Ian Questions AI Hype

?The technology is impressive and important, but like most great innovations, the adoption curve will likely be much longer than people expect. If you look back at tech predictions, the timeline for changing the world is almost always too short.?

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Part One.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Physicist to Gamer at Blizzard

From 17 Years of Loyalty to Facing Layoffs: When Blizzard Prioritized Profit Over People

?I started with Blizzard in 2005, and by 2018, after 13 years, the focus had shifted from creating epic experiences for gamers to just making more money.?

Breaking Free from the Corporate Overlord: Coaching Passionate Geeks on Their Own Terms

?Bound to a corporate overlord who tells me what to do and where my priorities are. And all my efforts basically go towards making rich people even richer in a sense."

From Panic to Possibility: How to Flip Career Transitions into Exciting New Opportunities

Learning in Disguise: How the ?Big Three? Turns Mistakes into Milestones

?Being kind to me is all about self-acceptance, embracing the good things in our life and not looking at what we think we are missing.?

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Part Two.

Once upon a time in LA, I worked at TCW Asset Management, managing billion-dollar bond funds with Jeffrey Gundlach, the ?Bond King.? Today, I?m talking with someone who takes a different investment route?Collin Plume, an expert in precious metals.

This conversation isn?t about selling gold; it?s about tackling real-life challenges like family finance, retirement planning, and raising financially savvy kids. If you?re navigating any of these areas, Collin?s insights and inspiring journey will give you plenty to think about.

Part 2 of a 2-part series on Collin?s people-first approach to building financial security.

Gold, Real Estate, and Learning New Tricks: Why Diversifying is the New Smart

?Be willing to learn about a new investment or a new strategy every year, whether you decide to do it or not. But I think being willing to learn about it is important. It will help you and it?ll keep you sharp.?

Beware of Finfluencer Hype: Not Everything That Shines Is Gold

?Too often, people take influencers at face value, believing that the most engaging video equals the best advice. In reality, it?s important to fact-check and do your own research because many influencers are just paid promoters, not experts.?

Do Your Research: Don?t Let Algorithms Make Your Financial Decisions

?Algorithms don?t care if the advice is good; they only care if the content is appealing. So when it comes to financial decisions, it?s on you to dig deeper, check multiple sources, and make sure the influencers you follow are legit.?

The Real Cost of Reckless Spending: Teaching Financial Discipline to the Next Generation

?As a family, we prioritize experiences like travel and education over material goods. I?ve shown my children the gold and silver I?ve set aside for them and explained how these assets will be worth something significant in the future. Whether they want to start a business or pay for college, these investments will be there for them."

?I make sure my kids know that money isn?t something to be taken lightly. Whether it?s explaining mortgages to my 8-year-old or discussing the importance of not being wasteful with their toys, they need to understand that everything has a cost. I often use examples like Disneyland?where you can easily spend thousands in just a few days."

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Part One.

Once upon a time in LA, I worked at TCW Asset Management, managing billion-dollar bond funds with Jeffrey Gundlach, the ?Bond King.? Today, I?m talking with someone who takes a different investment route?Collin Plume, an expert in precious metals.

This conversation isn?t about selling gold; it?s about tackling real-life challenges like family finance, retirement planning, and raising financially savvy kids. If you?re navigating any of these areas, Collin?s insights and inspiring journey will give you plenty to think about.

Part 1 of a 2-part series on Collin?s people-first approach to building financial security.

From Childhood Coin Collector to Precious Metals Expert: How Silver Sparked a Lifelong Passion

?I received silver coins as a child, and even though they were worth just 25 cents on the surface, I learned they were actually worth much more. That stuck with me and led me to see gold and silver as overlooked assets.?

Noble Gold: The Three Careers That Made It Happen

?Insurance taught me customer service. Real estate taught me employee loyalty. And precious metals? That taught me marketing. Together, those experiences became the foundation for Noble Gold.?

It?s All About the People: Why Noble Gold Invests in Human, Not Just AI

?I realized early on that it?s not about what you?re selling?it?s about the people. Everything we do at Noble Gold is focused on creating the best possible human experience. While other companies are going all-in on AI, we?ve hired actual people to build relationships.?

Gold Bars Under the Mattress: Why Some Investors Want to Feel Their Wealth

?As funny as it sounds, some people might still stash their gold under the bed. It?s all about having control?physical, tangible control over your investments.?

Gold to the Rescue: Beating Inflation and Outpacing Bank Returns

?In a time of soaring inflation, 4% returns in the bank aren?t enough. Gold, up 27%, is proving to be a more reliable way to keep up with the rising cost of living.?

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Ral West is one of those people whose story stays with you. Over four decades as an entrepreneur, she?s seen it all.

In her mid-twenties, she took the plunge and started her first business. That bold move led to running a charter air service between Alaska and Hawaii for 25 years, flying wide-body jets with her husband. Selling it to Alaska Airlines was a career highlight?but far from the finale.

Since then, she?s owned small cruise ships, invested in real estate, and continued building her legacy.

Now, Ral dedicates her time to helping other entrepreneurs achieve what she has: balancing business success with a fulfilling life. Her journey is real, raw, and packed with lessons for dreamers everywhere.

Challenging Generational Norms

?Early in my career, working for my father, I hit the glass ceiling. He came from a different generation, and his views were, let?s say, a bit old-fashioned. But I decided, ?Thanks, Dad?I?ll take it from here.? And I broke away to chart my own path.?

Juggling Act: The Exhausting Middle Years

?Between 35 and 55, I was stretched thin?running a business, raising young kids, volunteering. Sleep felt like a luxury. My health suffered, my marriage struggled, and I couldn?t do it all.?

The Breakthrough: Building Systems and Letting Go

?I learned the hard way that trying to do everything myself wasn?t sustainable. I created systems, implemented processes, and built a team I could trust. Using metrics and data-driven management, I structured my business so it could run smoothly?whether I was there or not.? The Slow Burn of Transformation

?Building systems, processes, and a reliable team didn?t happen overnight. It was years in the making. I started small?reading books like The E-Myth by Michael Gerber, going back to college, and studying with mentors like Robert Kiyosaki. Each step added a piece to the puzzle.?

Bite-Sized Delegation: Starting Small

?You don?t need massive financial success to start delegating. It starts with breaking down your daily tasks into bite-sized pieces and identifying what you can transfer to someone else.?

Turning Intuition Into Systems

?One of my toughest challenges was documenting decision-making processes?like when to increase advertising spend. It took weeks of introspection and trial and error before I realized I was relying on sales trends over a three-day period. Once I had clarity, I turned it into a system my team could follow, even when I wasn?t there.?

Creating Culture: Embodying Values and Principles

?It wasn?t just about systems and metrics; it was about building a team that shared my values. From customer service to feedback collection, we worked hard to create a culture that prioritized our principles.? 

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Part Two.

At the height of her real estate career, Athena Brownson?s life was derailed by Lyme disease. For eight years, she?s faced chronic pain and intensive treatments, reshaping every part of her world. As Athena puts it, ?If life didn?t give us adversity and challenges??

Yesterday, she recounted the early days of her diagnosis, the fight to survive, and the harsh realities of living with this poorly understood condition. Today, in Part 2, Athena will reveal how she turned survival into thriving and rebuilt her career on her own terms.

Retraining the Brain

?Pain puts the brain in fight-or-flight mode, and it can get stuck there. So it?s on us to train our minds to tell our bodies we?re okay, to push through and find relief.?

The Power of a Routine

?For me, routines are huge. My toolkit includes morning and evening rituals ? breathwork, meditation, journaling, writing affirmations. I remind myself every day: I am healthy. I am healing. My body can get through this.?

The Art of Delegation

?Delegation isn?t just about getting things off your plate; it?s about giving others a chance to shine. My illness showed me I can?t do everything, nor should I. Letting go allows others to thrive, and it?s empowering to see them do what they love.?

Building My Tribe

?Finding the right people was a decade-long journey, but now I have a team around me who would do anything for me. They?re not just coworkers; they?re my support system, my tribe. I know they?re here for me, health and all, and I wouldn?t be where I am without them.?

The Power of Pen and Paper

?Writing by hand does something special. Seeing the words you put down lets them sink in, letting you visualize and internalize them in a unique way.?

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Part One.

At the height of her real estate career, Athena Brownson?s life was derailed by Lyme disease. For eight years, she?s faced chronic pain and intensive treatments, reshaping every part of her world. As Athena puts it, ?If life didn?t give us adversity and challenges??

In this episode, she recounts the early days of her diagnosis, the fight to survive, and the harsh realities of living with this poorly understood condition. Tomorrow, in Part 2, Athena will reveal how she turned survival into thriving and rebuilt her career on her own terms.

The Hidden Threat of Lyme Disease

?I had no idea what Lyme disease was before I was diagnosed with it. It?s the fastest growing epidemic in the United States, and it can turn life upside down.?

From Athlete to Survivor

?My life has made a complete 180 from being a professional athlete to just trying to get through each day. It?s a nightmare I wouldn?t wish on anyone.?

When Life Becomes a Series of Challenges

?It?s hard not to get stuck in the mud when you?re dealing with something so challenging and constant? chronic pain, chronic fatigue, enough to make anyone want to stay in bed and not do anything.?

Creating a Toolkit for Every Day

?How do we pivot our mentality? How do we create our toolkit of things to get us through each day, even when we don?t want to? Sometimes it?s as simple as blasting favorite music or making a great cup of coffee.?

Becoming Your Own Biggest Advocate

?With Lyme, I?ve learned that you have to be your own biggest advocate. It?s about mental resilience, surrounding yourself with the right people, and finding those anchors to push forward.?

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For the first time, my podcast comes full circle!

Though I started and run this show in Hong Kong, I?ve yet to feature a guest from right here in my home city?until today.

Meet May Yeung: a teaching artist, founder of the charity Art of My Family, cancer survivor, and proud mom to an 14-month-old cutie. Through art, May is reshaping lives and championing sustainability, mental health, and social inclusion right here in Hong Kong.

In a city known for its financial might, May shows us a path of passion and purpose, proving that art can spark meaningful change. Bonus? Our youngest guest yet?her 14-month-old son?is along for the ride. Stay tuned!

3:17?From Wall Scribbles to Ceramics: A Childhood Steeped in Art

?From the time I was around two years old, I would draw on walls before I could even write my name. By five, my father and I were creating ceramics together. At age 12, my fascination with dadaism and pop art gave me the conviction to become an artist.?

"I met Professor Jeff Oppenheimer who gave a lecture on integrating art into daily life, and daily life into art, and the contents of this lecture really helped to form the framework and direction of my art to this day."

6:00?Where Art Meets Music: How Music Has Influenced Her Art Creation

8:41?From Crunching Numbers to Crafting Impact: How Finance Led May to Art and Social Change

11:20?Faith Over Fear: How Battling Cancer Transformed a Perfectionist into a Celebrator of Life?s Small Wins

"I think the cancer experience really let me feel a greater sense of conviction to serve the underprivileged"

16:25?Art for Archer: How Motherhood and Heritage Shape Her Creations

18:09?Dim Sum and Chinese Checkers: Weaving Hong Kong?s Culture into Every Piece of Art

21:34?Memorable Art Pieces ?What If? and ?Blossom Love?: Sculpting Bridges Between Cultures and Endless Possibilities

23:19?From Corporate CSR to Creative Compassion: The Birth of Art of My Family

30:00?May?s Life Mission to Inspire the Next Generation: The Three C?s of Art Education and the Role of a Teaching Artist

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Part Two.

Ever left a toxic boss or workplace, hoping for a fresh start, only to land in the same chaos at your new job? It?s a frustratingly common cycle.

The truth is, office politics are everywhere. From power plays and subtle maneuvers to that colleague who always seems to win, navigating workplace dynamics can be exhausting.

In this two-part series, leadership expert Jennifer Selby Long joins me to unpack why office politics happen, how some people thrive in politically charged environments, and why others struggle. We?ll explore toxic cultures, power dynamics, and the hidden forces shaping your work life?and how to navigate them without losing yourself along the way.

Feeling stuck or burned out? These episodes are packed with relatable stories and actionable insights to help you take your next step forward.

Talent vs. Tactics: Why Performance Alone Doesn?t Guarantee Success

?In corporate environments, it?s often not the most skilled or hardworking employees who thrive?it?s those adept at navigating office politics. Top performers may drive results, but their brilliance can threaten insecure leaders, creating a system where political tact outshines true talent.?

The Right Culture for the Right Person

?Some thrive in competitive political environments; others find them draining. The key is identifying whether your personal interests align with the culture around you. The fit matters more than fighting a system that may not suit you.?

No Permanent Friends, No Permanent Enemies?Just Interests

?Drawing from the wisdom of Martin Luther King?s attorney, Clarence Jones: the game of politics is about aligning interests, not forging everlasting alliances. Understanding this can shift how you approach your workplace dynamics.?

Burnout and Disengagement: The Fallout of Neglecting Talent

?When talent is neither respected nor recognized, it creates a workplace rife with disengagement and burnout. Organizations lose not just individuals but the potential for meaningful progress, leaving behind a culture where playing the game matters more than delivering value.?

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Part One.

Ever left a toxic boss or workplace, hoping for a fresh start, only to land in the same chaos at your new job? It?s a frustratingly common cycle.

The truth is, office politics are everywhere. From power plays and subtle maneuvers to that colleague who always seems to win, navigating workplace dynamics can be exhausting.

In this two-part series, leadership expert Jennifer Selby Long joins me to unpack why office politics happen, how some people thrive in politically charged environments, and why others struggle. We?ll explore toxic cultures, power dynamics, and the hidden forces shaping your work life?and how to navigate them without losing yourself along the way.

Feeling stuck or burned out? These episodes are packed with relatable stories and actionable insights to help you take your next step forward.

Finding Your Ally Among the Majority

?In political environments, success hinges on securing a powerful ally. Aligning your interests with theirs and elevating them as a leader in your cause is essential if you plan to stay and thrive in such an environment.?

When Conversations Clash, Progress Pauses

?Business meetings often default to task-focused debates where differing perspectives turn into verbal standoffs. Rarely do teams pause to acknowledge the conflict and approach it constructively, missing opportunities to uncover deeper understanding.?

No Permanent Friends, No Permanent Enemies?Just Interests

?Drawing from the wisdom of Martin Luther King?s attorney, Clarence Jones: the game of politics is about aligning interests, not forging everlasting alliances. Understanding this can shift how you approach your workplace dynamics.?

Assumptions: The Silent Saboteur

?Most conflicts arise not from genuine disagreement but from unchecked assumptions about others? motives or goals. Pausing to clarify and validate these assumptions can eliminate a significant portion of perceived conflict.?

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Jennifer Selby Long, the executive coach for tech leaders with 30 plus years of experience, dives into the art of navigating organizational politics and leading effective change.

She explores the roots of workplace power struggles, from unhealthy leadership dynamics to competing stakeholder needs, and shares how empathy can transform political challenges into progress. Jennifer breaks down common missteps in handling ineffective bosses and highlights the importance of aligning personal and organizational goals during times of transformation. Whether you?re managing a team or managing your own career pivot, her insights offer a practical roadmap for thriving in complex environments.

Aligning Change with Personal Motivations

?People don?t move mountains for stock prices or cost savings. They do it when the change connects to their personal ?why??what matters most to them as individuals.?

Recognize the Root of Politics

?Politics can stem from unhealthy leadership, but more often, they arise from competing needs and varied skill levels among stakeholders. Identifying the source is key to navigating them.?

Empathy as a Superpower

?The path through political challenges begins with empathy. Understand the needs of those with power?even if you think they don?t deserve it?and align your strategy with their goals.?

Avoid Playing Psychologist

?Trying to diagnose your boss?s issues only disempowers you. Focus on what you can control instead of guessing why your boss behaves the way they do.?

Assess the Real Problem

?Ask yourself: Is the boss genuinely ineffective, or am I resisting the changes they?re implementing? Recognizing your own resistance can help you approach the situation constructively.?

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From her accidental start in change management in the 90s to coaching today?s tech leaders, Jennifer Selby Long?s journey is all about helping people navigate and lead change effectively.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From IT Troubleshooting to People-Centric Change

?Back in the 90s, tech resistance often came down to one thing: it didn?t work well enough. Today, that?s no longer the case. Technology works?it?s the people and their habits that need shifting.?

The Human Side of Digital Transformation

?Digital transformation isn?t just about new tools; it?s about reshaping roles, mindsets, and entire workflows.?

The Power of Hope in Change

?Hope isn?t just a warm fuzzy feeling?it?s a vision of life 12 to 18 months from now, shaped by the best possible outcome of the change. And it has to connect with each person?s ?why,? not just the company?s goals.?

Patience: A Leader?s Greatest Ally

?Change happens in waves. While a leader may glimpse the new shore, their team might only see endless water. Impatience doesn?t help?it?s self-awareness and patience that bring everyone along.?

Self-Doubt: It?s Not You, It?s Your Brain

?When self-doubt creeps in, it?s your brain?s saboteur neural networks firing up, not a reflection of your abilities. Recognizing this can stop sabotage before it derails you.?

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From mechanical engineering in India to leading tech roles at Square and Atlassian in Silicon Valley, Gagan Sandhu?s career is a masterclass in adaptability and growth.

Now the CEO and Co-Founder of Xillion, a platform empowering financial independence, Gagan shares how embracing knowledge-driven pivots?like switching to tech in his late 20s?has fuelled his success. He unpacks the myths of financial freedom, tackles ageism in the workplace, and explains why modern careers require constant reinvention.

This is part two of a two-part series, offering a roadmap for navigating change, mastering skills, and living intentionally, no matter your stage in life.

The Trap of Asset Rich, Cash Poor

?Financial independence isn?t about piling up assets like real estate without liquidity. It?s about understanding cash flow, compounding returns, and making smart investments tailored to your goals.?

Two Sides of the Same Coin

?Financial independence isn?t just about planning for tomorrow?it?s about defining today. The idea is to align your present choices with the freedom to pursue passions and live meaningfully.?

The Role of Finfluencers

?They offer quick tips and digestible content, often catering to a younger audience. But their motives can sometimes be tied to promotions?whether it?s a bank account or an investment product. Their advice might not always be impartial.?

A Balanced Perspective

?At Xillion, we take a different path. While we do share nuggets of wisdom on platforms like LinkedIn and TikTok, we focus on being our own voice of authority rather than relying on external influencers. This way, authenticity remains at the core of our brand.?

The 10-Year Career Mindset

?Careers aren?t linear 30-year paths anymore. Every decade or so, you need to rediscover yourself. I?ve done it multiple times?starting as a mechanical engineer, pivoting to programming, then management, and finally launching my own company. Reinvention is the new normal.?

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From mechanical engineering in India to leading tech roles at Square and Atlassian in Silicon Valley, Gagan Sandhu?s career is a masterclass in adaptability and growth.

Now the CEO and Co-Founder of Xillion, a platform empowering financial independence, Gagan shares how embracing knowledge-driven pivots?like switching to tech in his late 20s?has fuelled his success. He unpacks the myths of financial freedom, tackles ageism in the workplace, and explains why modern careers require constant reinvention.

This is part one of a two-part series, offering a roadmap for navigating change, mastering skills, and living intentionally, no matter your stage in life.

From Machines to Tech: Chasing the Future

?The pace of innovation in mechanical engineering had slowed, but I was hungry for more. Transitioning into tech wasn?t straightforward?it took continents, years, and relentless effort, but it was fueled by a clear driver: knowledge.?

The Xillion Leap

?When my learning plateaued in corporate roles, starting Zillion became my next knowledge adventure. Building something from scratch offered an accelerated learning curve and the chance to apply everything I?d gathered.?

Business School: Filling the Gaps

?For me, business school wasn?t about a career leap; it was about plugging knowledge gaps. Understanding accounting, marketing, and finance became crucial to having meaningful conversations at work, even as a tech leader.?

Redefining Financial Independence

?It?s not about flashy buzzwords or retiring early?it?s about having the freedom to choose your path. For me, it meant leaving the corporate grind to build something meaningful, armed with a clear, numbers-driven plan.?

Crunching the Numbers

?My financial independence formula wasn?t guesswork. I calculated five years of living expenses, education costs, and retirement needs. It?s basic math, but staying on top of expenses and cash flow gave me the clarity to leap.? 

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Holly Bond, once a franchise owner and now the President of Facet Recruitment, spills the secrets of blending old-school charm with modern tech in recruiting.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Focus Groups to Foundations

?When we launched Facets, we started with brutal honesty: focus groups full of blunt feedback about recruiters. We listened, and we built a company rooted in empathy and care.?

Breaking the Commission Chain

?Recruiting isn?t about commissions; it?s about people. I refused to return to a model where clients matter more than candidates. Instead, I built a team paid for their passion, not percentages.?

Catching What AI Misses

?If AI had done my recruitment, I would?ve slipped through the cracks. Boolean searches don?t see potential outside the box. Humans do. That?s why we look beyond traditional roles, exploring adjacent sectors for talent.?

Spotting the Unsung Stars

?A recruiter?s superpower? Seeing someone?s potential before they do. When I reached out to a candidate in her 60s, she couldn?t believe I meant her. But age? It?s just a number?wisdom wins every time.?

Putting Yourself Out There

?Take risks, be bold, and let people know what you?re looking for. Whether it?s an informational interview or a thoughtful message, putting yourself out there often leads to unexpected opportunities?sometimes even before the job officially exists.?

The True Value of a Strong Network

?A broad network isn?t just about advancing your career; it?s about helping others too. Being able to connect someone to the right opportunity or advice is the most rewarding part of building genuine, lasting relationships.?

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Holly Bond, a serial entrepreneur and President of Facet Recruitment in Halifax, Canada, shares her transformative journey from building a groundbreaking children?s fitness franchise to navigating the tough lessons of entrepreneurship.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Highs and the Crash

?We sold 11 franchises, won awards, and partnered with an animation company to integrate exercise into kids? shows. Then the 2009 recession hit, and it all came crashing down. But every tough moment was a lesson in resilience.?

From Local to Global Buzz

?After a single news segment, I came home to over 100 emails from people wanting franchises?from Canada to Dubai. It was surreal, exciting, and chaotic. I had to build the plane while flying it.?

Racing Against Time

?I?ve always felt like I?m running to catch up, maybe because I took 17 years to finish my degree or because my mom passed away at the age I am now. That sense of urgency?it?s hardwired into me.?

The Fear of Regret

?I don?t want to be 85 and look back saying, ?I wish I?d done that.? There?s so much to explore, so many industries to dive into. I just can?t imagine stopping.?

Reflection in Progress

?My son recently asked me, ?Why can?t you just enjoy life?? It?s a question I?m sitting with. Maybe it?s time to slow down, but for now, the drive to conquer still burns bright.?

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Juliana Schroeder, Associate Professor at UC Berkeley Haas School of Business, unpacks the evolving dynamics of communication in the human-machine era.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Mind Behind the Machine

?AI isn?t just changing technology; it?s reshaping how we think, act, and perceive power. When virtual assistants act human-like, they give users a psychological boost that can even alter decision-making.?

Confirmation Bias Central

?When users consult ChatGPT, it often mirrors their ideas, reinforcing their thoughts. It?s a colleague that nods a lot but rarely challenges, creating a unique kind of echo chamber.?

Medium Matters

?From text to video to voice, the platform you choose shapes how your message lands. Want to make a strong first impression? Skip the text and go for face-to-face?or at least a well-delivered elevator pitch.?

Humanize the Experience

?Paralinguistic cues?like tone of voice and facial expressions?are what make conversations truly human. To connect, think beyond words and embrace the richness of full-spectrum communication.?

High Stakes, High Scrutiny

?In critical domains like hiring, people demand transparency. The idea of an algorithm handling everything creates unease, sparking backlash when decisions feel like they emerge from a ?black box.??

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Mary Shea, General Manager for North America at HireQuotient and former co-CEO of Mediafly, takes us on a tech-fueled journey through the wild world of AI-driven hiring.

From cracking the code on hidden talent pools to dodging ghosting recruiters, Mary?s got tips for everyone?job seekers, recruiters, and those just trying to figure out if their LinkedIn profile is detailed enough. She even schools us on networking, blending classic human touch with digital-era wizardry. If you?ve ever wondered how to outsmart the bots while keeping your humanity intact, this episode is your playbook?with a side of humor and heart.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

AI as a Recruiter?s Right Hand

?Offloading 75% of the recruiting workload, generative AI and automation work overtime, tackling bias and sourcing talent far beyond the usual platforms.?

Beyond LinkedIn

?Why limit your search to one platform? With integrations across tools like Crunchbase and Apollo, HireQuotient casts a wide net, uncovering passive and active candidates who often fly under the radar.?

Championing Diversity

?When male-dominated results dominated a recruiter?s search, HireQuotient adapted with a few new prompts, demonstrating how AI can open doors for underrepresented talent.?

White Glove Experience, AI-Style

?Automation doesn?t mean impersonal. By automating outreach and early-stage screening, recruiters had more time to build personal connections and keep candidates engaged.?

Omnichannel Humanity

?Use every channel, but never forget the power of face-to-face. It?s not just networking; it?s feeding your humanity.?

The Human Advantage

?AI might read resumes, but humans hire. Keep networking, stay visible, and remember that meaningful relationships can outlast any algorithm.?

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Greg Morley isn?t your average HR guy. He?s the former DEI and HR head at Moët Hennessy, Disney, and Hasbro?and the brains behind Bond, the book on belonging your workplace desperately needs.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Crisis of Workplace Loneliness

?Workplace loneliness isn?t just a personal issue?it?s a challenge organizations must tackle to foster belonging and inclusion.?

The Employee-Employer Power Flip

?The workplace dynamic has shifted?it?s now a buyer?s market for employees who demand recognition, safety, and belonging.?

Redefining Diversity

?Diversity isn?t just what you see?it?s also life experiences, generational perspectives, languages, and abilities, visible or hidden. Most of our diversity at work is invisible. Who someone marries, whether they have kids, or cognitive differences often go unnoticed?but they matter.?

Start With Yourself

?Change begins within. Reflecting on personal experiences of inclusion or exclusion can help leaders empathize and create a more welcoming environment for others.?

East Meets West

?In the East, inclusion feels more organic, driven by community and connection. In the West, it?s often about achieving measurable outcomes and hitting diversity targets.?

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Greg Morley isn?t your average HR guy. He?s the former DEI and HR head at Moët Hennessy, Disney, and Hasbro?and the brains behind Bond, the book on belonging your workplace desperately needs.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Inspiration Behind the Book

?The idea for my first book, Bond, came from a friend?s suggestion that I had an obligation to share my experiences. That idea sparked a journey to explore what it takes for any organization to create a true sense of belonging.?

Cutting Through the Noise

?In a world polarized by amplified voices on the extremes?whether labeled woke or anti-woke?my focus is on the middle ground. Most people want to feel safe, heard, and valued at work, free from political distractions.?

A Sandwich Approach to DEI

?Balancing a top-down strategy with grassroots alignment ensures each Maison retains its uniqueness while embracing broader organizational values to drive meaningful DEI outcomes.?

Facing the First Challenge: Self-Awareness

?The journey began with unconscious bias training for all employees, helping them recognize unintentional biases shaped by upbringing or experience. This laid the groundwork for open, honest conversations about diversity and inclusion.?

Leadership Advocacy is Key

?There?s nothing more powerful than a CEO advocating for DEI consistently. A strong top-down message, combined with grassroots energy, creates the momentum needed for real change.?

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In the second episode of this two-part series, Mary Shea, General Manager of Hire Quotient and former co-CEO of Mediafly, delves into the co-CEOship model?a rising approach in today?s complex business landscape.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

AI?s Impact on Sales Teams

?AI is paving the way for smaller, more agile sales teams, moving away from the traditional 80/20 rule toward a future where 80% of the team delivers 100% of the revenue.?

The Rise of the Consultant Seller

?AI acts as a coach on the salesperson?s shoulder, helping them become more advisory-oriented, and enabling deeper impact in customer interactions.?

Why Two CEOs?

?In today?s complex world, no single leader can address everything, from geopolitical challenges to the rapid pace of AI innovation. The co-CEO model allows for a divide-and-conquer approach.?

Challenges of Co-Leadership

?Decision-making can be slower, and sometimes we wish we could just do things our way. But alignment is key, and when it works, it?s incredibly impactful.?

Who?s the Umpire?

?Our ?umpire? is our investor and board. If we truly can?t resolve a disagreement, we rely on their input as the ultimate decision-maker.?

The Professional Marriage

?Co-CEOship is like a professional marriage?it requires resilience, commitment, and sometimes even a ?marriage counselor? in the form of an executive coach to navigate tough patches.?

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In this first episode of a two-part series, Mary Shea, General Manager of Hire Quotient and former co-CEO of Mediafly, shares her remarkable journey from classical musician to sales leader and diversity advocate.

Drawing from her time as Principal Analyst at Forrester, Mary provides valuable insights into the digitization of sales and the role of creativity in building high-performing teams. Packed with passion, advocacy, and actionable advice, this episode sets the stage for an inspiring conclusion in Part Two.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Music to Business

?I started as a classical musician, playing with the Mexico City Philharmonic and Guadalajara Symphony. But when the career palette felt too small, I took a leap into business, changing my life forever.?

Sales: The Great Equalizer

?Sales is one of the few fields where hard work and skill can lead to financial independence, regardless of where you start. That independence allows you to make meaningful changes in your life and others?.?

Playing Catch-Up with Purpose

?Coming into the business world with a PhD put me 10 years behind my peers, but it also ignited a fire. I moved quickly, knowing every opportunity was critical to closing that gap.?

Creating the Playbook

?I?m not just about managing to a playbook?I love creating it. The intellectual stimulation of building strategies with teams and seeing them succeed is what drives me.?

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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Mary Shea PhD

Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously.

Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives
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In this second episode of the two-part series, James Hilovsky delves deeper into the mindset and qualities required for success in franchising.

Drawing on his extensive experience, James highlights the flip side of athletic traits?how passion and ego can sometimes derail franchisees, but how the right systems and guidance can bring them back on track. He shares insights into why franchising isn?t just about following a playbook but also about owning your business and betting on yourself.

For corporate professionals and non-athletes, James emphasizes the importance of overcoming fear, finding the right franchise fit, and partnering with a supportive franchisor. Packed with actionable advice, this episode is a must-listen for anyone ready to take the leap into franchising and build something truly their own.

When Ego Enters the Game

?For highly successful athletes, ego can become a stumbling block. In their circle, they?re often surrounded by ?yes? people?but in franchising, the system is the boss.?

Coachable or Combative?

?Not every athlete thrives in a franchise model. If they?re resistant to coaching or feel they don?t need the franchise system, they might be better suited for entrepreneurship.?

From Control to Chaos

?Athletes transition from highly controlled environments to the unpredictable world of business. Education and mindset shifts are crucial to navigate these new challenges.?

The Athlete?s Advantage: Resilience

?Athletes are no strangers to failure. In baseball, hitting .300 is a win?despite failing seven out of ten times. That resilience becomes a powerful tool in business.?

The Franchisor as a Partner

?Your franchisor should be more than a brand?they?re your business partner. Look for one that offers strong support and aligns with your vision for success.?

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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: James Hilovsky 

Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously.

Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives
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In this first episode of a two-part series, James Hilovsky takes us from the baseball field to the world of franchising, sharing how athletes possess unique qualities that make them exceptional business owners.

Having transitioned from professional sports to a successful career in the restaurant and franchise industries, James highlights the parallels between following a coach?s playbook and executing a franchise system. With a focus on risk-taking, leadership, and embracing coaching, James explains how athletes are naturally equipped to thrive in franchising. He also shares his passion for guiding athletes and professionals through the franchising process, helping them avoid pitfalls and find opportunities that align with their goals.

Whether you?re an athlete or just looking to take the leap into business, this episode offers valuable insights to inspire your journey.

From Baseball to Business

?My baseball career was short-lived due to injury, but transitioning to the restaurant industry felt natural. It was another kind of team?working together toward a shared goal.?

Systems That Lead to Success

?Franchises, like sports leagues, refine their systems to avoid pitfalls. They hand franchisees a proven playbook to help them stay on course and achieve their goals.?

Athletes and Franchising: A Natural Fit

?Athletes already understand the value of following systems and being part of a team. That mindset translates seamlessly into running a successful franchise.?

From Coach to Franchisor

?In the franchise world, the franchisor acts like a head coach?laying out the strategies, providing guidance, and ensuring the business operates at peak performance.?

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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: James Hilovsky 

Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously.

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In this episode, Wayland Lum, CEO of Copperbox Leadership Advisory and former leader at Chicago Booth, Korn Ferry, and Nvidia, shares his journey from art supplies to boardrooms.

From navigating the balance of fear and courage to embracing core purpose, Wayland reveals the power of leadership grounded in authenticity and impact. His insights extend far beyond corporate walls, showing how intentional leadership can create a ripple effect that positively shapes the world. If you?ve ever considered stepping out of your comfort zone and betting on your own vision, this episode will leave you inspired?and maybe a little bit braver.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Breaking Free from Prestige

?Leaving prestigious organizations for my own leadership practice wasn?t easy. Many stick to the comfort of a stable paycheck and a corporate name?but I felt called to something more.?

Why Modern Leadership Matters

?In a world of constant flux, leadership grounded in systemic and timeless principles offers the resilience and clarity needed to navigate both societal and business challenges.?

The Private Equity Sprint

?Private equity moves fast. Our work helps leaders in portfolio companies close leadership gaps quickly, aligning their capabilities with quarter-by-quarter business demands.?

Inspiration Starts Within

?To inspire others, you must first be inspired. Your energy, your spark, comes from operating with purpose?and trust me, people can tell if it?s there or not.?

The Wisdom of Acceptance

?Modern leadership is about accepting the full spectrum of emotions?joy, fear, grief, and love?and leading with a wisdom that reflects this understanding of human nature.?

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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Wayland Lum

Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously.

Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives
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Wayne Turmel, co-author of The Long-Distance Leader, joins the show to unpack the chaos of remote and hybrid leadership. Is hybrid work really a strategy?

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Lessons from History?s Leaders

?Genghis Khan ruled half the world without a Webex meeting. Julius Caesar? Brilliant in the field, but the office politics got him. Leading from afar isn?t new?it?s just evolved.?

The Proximity Bias Trap

?In hybrid setups, those in the office often get more attention and opportunities?intentionally or not. Awareness is key to ensure fairness across the team.?

Bridging the Trust Gap

?Leadership tasks haven?t changed, but relationships, trust, and proactive communication now require a conscious effort to avoid gaps and micromanagement.?

The Synchronous-Asynchronous Dance

?Effective hybrid work balances synchronous collaboration with asynchronous deep work. It?s not about clocking in at the same time but about delivering results with flexibility.?

Intentionality Over Chaos

?Hybrid solutions require intentionality. Schedule in-office days for meetings and collaboration. Leave remote days for focused work. Let people own their time to produce quality results.?

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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Wayne Turmel

Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously.

Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives
Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes
World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple
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2.5 Millions+ Downloads
50+ Countries