When Saskia wakes up in the middle of the night, she sees something she can never unsee. In the Season 5 premiere of Betrayal, a hidden life begins to surface.  

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Saskia Inwood woke up one morning, knowing her life would never be the same. The husband she knew in the light of day was a different person after dark. The brand-new season of Betrayal premieres January 29th.      

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When she was 18, Margo Freshwater fell in with a much older man, and together they blazed through a three-week long crime spree that ended with her sentenced to 99 years for murder. But then she escaped from prison...and vanished for the next three decades. As Margo built a life under a new name; investigators chased her ghost... 

When host, Cooper Moll, sets out to find Margo, she expects the legend. What she finds is a far more tangled story. 

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If you’re new to Betrayal, we want to share a recent episode from our sister show, Betrayal Weekly. On Betrayal Weekly, you’ll hear standalone stories of deception every Thursday. Each episode is told by the person who lived through it, and hosted by Andrea Gunning. This is Brook’s first-person account of surviving an unthinkable betrayal. 

If you like what you hear, just search for Betrayal Weekly in your podcast app and hit subscribe. 

Content Warning: Brook’s episode contains a description of pregnancy loss.  

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Lori’s dad was a hero, and a source of safety. But that trust was shattered when his double life came to light.  

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A father and daughter come together to fight against a betrayal that devastated their family. 

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Jace pulled Heather into a web of lies. But she was determined to untangle it.

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This week, our team is taking a holiday break, and we’re re-releasing a listener favorite, Bernie Pt 1 & Pt 2. Bernie Brown met a charming man from a powerful UK family. Their romance had to stay secret. But Bernie would soon learn the real secret was far more dangerous.  

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After twenty years of marriage, April thought she’d seen every side of Joe. She never imagined the one that put him behind bars. ??

PERPETRATOR DISCLOSURE: This episode discusses crimes committed by Richard Joseph Banks Jr in San Diego, California.  

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CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses domestic violence and sexual assault.  

Crystal Harris escaped the man who terrorized her, and in the process, challenged the institutions that failed her.

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Helen’s world revolved around her mother.  After her mom passes, she leaves something behind that reshapes Helen’s past and challenges her understanding of who her mom truly was.

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Growing up, Mackenzie and her older sister Leigh were inseparable. Then, a Facebook friend request sets off a chain of lies that would change both of their lives and relationship forever.   

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Hear Betrayal’s first-ever live show with Andrea Gunning and our Betrayal storytellers, onboard Virgin Voyages’ True Crime Cruise. We hear updates from Stacey and Tyler, Karoline and her kids. We discuss survivor-centered true crime and what it’s like to have your real life turned into a true crime podcast. It’s an emotional and in-depth conversation about the kind of work we do, and what it means to the people who are at the center of it.  

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Her ex-husband seemed to have eyes and ears everywhere.  

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Leo’s elaborate fraud is finally exposed. His face is on the news. Bernie finally gets some answers.  

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Bernie Brown met a charming man from a powerful UK family. Their romance had to stay secret. But Bernie would soon learn, the real secret was far more dangerous.

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Her father was a beloved local coach. At home, he was a different person.

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She wanted a companion for the last chapter of her life. But an online romance compromised everything she’d worked for.   

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Jill’s youngest brother was one of her favorite people, until the FBI exposed the dark truth about him.

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Hey Betrayal listeners, Andrea here! To celebrate the release of Season 3 of the docu-series Betrayal: Under His Eye, we’re doing something a little different. In this bonus episode, I have an exclusive conversation with a few of the people at ABCNews Studios who helped Betrayal become a hit TV series on Hulu. Once you’ve listened, check out the series we all brought to life. Betrayal: Under His Eye is available to stream NOW only on Hulu and Hulu on Disney+. All three episodes are available to binge!

On this bonus episode, I’m joined by ABCNews Executive Producer Muriel Pearson, Head of ABCNews Studios Mike Kelley, and Glass Entertainment Group's Executive Producer Jon Hirsch to talk about how the Hulu docu-series came to be as well as some behind-the-scenes details of how the show is made. We also discuss how my guests decide if a podcast would work well for TV, the importance of bringing these stories to a broader audience, and how the true crime genre has evolved to let women tell their own stories — not just as victims, but as survivors.

To watch me have this conversation with my guests, as well as access more conversations with Ashley, Stacey, Karoline and the Betrayal team not on this feed, subscribed for FREE today to Beyond Betrayal, the official Substack community of Betrayal. 

And if you have a story you’d like to share with us, email us at [email protected]. And if you’re a paid Substack subscriber, join us in the chat!

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A small-town pastor built a loyal group of followers, until an anonymous letter writer threatened to expose his secret life.  

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Running a dance studio was Alicia’s dream. Her husband's secrets would tear it apart.  

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Brandi agrees to help the police with a crime, only to find herself at the center of their case.

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Two best friends, a cause worth fighting for, and the knife in the back no one expected. 

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Libby’s husband wasn’t just hiding secrets; he was committing crimes in her name.  

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Betrayal Weekly is back. What happens when the person you trust most decides your future for you? Brook Fisk shares her first-person account of surviving an unthinkable betrayal. 

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In this special bonus episode of Betrayal, go behind the scenes with the Betrayal team featuring host Andrea Gunning and the producers, editors, and story team who brought Season 4 to life. This conversation took place on Beyond Betrayal, the official Substack of the Betrayal Podcast and Host Andrea Gunning. If you want to hear more conversations like this, subscribe for FREE today at: https://substack.com/@beyondbetrayal1 

In this candid roundtable discussion, you'll hear how a single corrupted audio file nearly derailed the entire season—and how persistence led to one of the most shocking pieces of tape the team had ever encountered. The team explores why they made the crucial decision to expand beyond one officer's misconduct to examine the institutional culture that enables systemic betrayal. They also get personal about the emotional toll of spending months immersed in other people's pain—and the boundaries they've built to stay grounded while telling these difficult stories. 

From building trust with sources to navigating the complexities of reporting on law enforcement, this conversation offers an unprecedented look at how investigative podcasting really works and the lengths the team took to get to the heart of this story.  

And don’t forget, a new season of Betrayal Weekly premieres in TWO DAYS, Thursday August 7th. If you aren’t already, please be sure to subscribe to Betrayal for the latest from the Betrayal team. There are a lot of exciting announcements coming this Fall!   

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Betrayal Weekly is back for a brand-new season, starting August 7th. Every Thursday, hear first-person accounts of deception and double lives. But these aren’t just stories of destruction. They’re stories of survival, told by the people who lived through it. 

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Dr. Jennifer Freyd, the leading expert in betrayal trauma, breaks down what separates betrayal from other traumatic experiences.  For more on betrayal blindness, read Blind to Betrayal by Dr. Jennifer Freyd and Dr. Pamela Birrell. 

For more on institutional betrayal and institutional courage, check out the Center for Institutional Courage. 

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Curious about the psychology of pathological liars, Andrea talks with two leading experts. For more from Dr. Drew Curtis and Dr. Christian Hart, check out their book Big Liars: What Psychological Science Tells Us About Lying and How You Can Avoid Being Duped.

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A return trip to Colorado Springs uncovers a new betrayal. A woman who had an affair with Joel shares her experience. Karoline and her kids redefine life as a family of three. 

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Karoline unpacks her healing journey with Kristin Snowden, an expert in betrayal trauma recovery.  

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Joel Kern wasn’t alone in his bad behavior. More allegations of misconduct at the CSPD come to light.  

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The Betrayal Team investigates how Joel was able to walk away from the mess he created. 

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Joel goes to rehab in hopes of saving his career and his marriage. Karoline uncovers new information that further shocks family.

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Internal Affairs investigators question Joel on allegations of misconduct. Will he tell the truth? 

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Karoline reexamines her 20 years of marriage – the life she thought she was living, and the one her husband was hiding just under her nose.  

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The Kern family discovers what Joel was really doing on the clock. The investigation into his misconduct only scratches the surface.  

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Karoline built her life around her husband's career as a Colorado Springs police officer. The family was proud of his service, until they learned that the only person he was serving was himself.  

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Introducing Betrayal Season 4. Karoline Borega married a man of honor – a respected Colorado Springs Police officer. She knew there would be sacrifices to accommodate her husband’s career. But she had no idea that he was using his badge to fool everyone.  

This season, we expose a man who swore two sacred oaths—one to his badge, one to his bride—and broke them both. We follow Karoline as she questions everything she thought she knew about her partner of over 20 years. 

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Justin Rutherford is appealing his case. Stacey and Tyler discuss how they're processing the news and what the last year has brought them. 

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A listener wrote to us with a heartbreaking question: What can I say to my friend who won’t leave an abuser? Is there anything I can say to get through to her?  

We bring on survivor Ashley Trujillo from Betrayal Season 2, who’s faced a similar choice, and therapist Jessica Baum to unpack the trauma, denial, and deep attachment that can keep people stuck.

For more on attachment and healing, check out Jessica Baum’s book "Anxiously Attached, Becoming More Secure in Life and Love.”   

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Molly reads her story of resilience and healing after an abusive relationship.

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In our first listener essay, Melissa reads her account of resilience and healing after her father’s betrayal.   

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Clinical psychologist and applied neuroscientist Dr. Kate Truitt shares the powerful science behind telling your story as a method of healing from traumatic events.  

To access Dr. Truitt’s “CPR for the Amygdala” exercises, including mindful touch and cognitive distractions, visit Dr. Truitt’s YouTube channel or the free resources section at www.drkatetruitt.com.  

Her memoir “Keep Breathing: A Psychologist’s Intimate Journey Through Loss, Trauma, and Rediscovering Life” is available now.

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If you like our show, we know you'll love this season of Nobody Should Believe Me, produced and hosted by Andrea Dunlop. While we're hard at work bringing you more Betrayal episodes, we’re going to throw it to Andrea Dunlop, who has a story unlike anything we've ever heard.   

You can listen to the rest of Nobody Should Believe Me season 5 on all podcast platforms. Andrea Dunlop’s first nonfiction book, The Mother Next Door, is available now. 

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In this special crossover episode, author and podcast host Andrea Dunlop sits down with Andrea Gunning for a deep dive into the true crime genre. It’s an unflinching conversation about the responsibility of telling real people’s stories, the limits of media, and what it’s like reporting on a story that hits close to home.  

Check out There and Gone: South Street, Andrea Gunning’s investigation into the 20-year disappearance of Richard Petrone and Danielle Imbo. 

You can find Andrea Dunlop’s podcast, Nobody Should Believe Me, on all platforms. Her first nonfiction book, The Mother Next Door, is available now.  

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Her sister became someone unrecognizable.  

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Producer Monique LaBorde comes on mic to bring Andrea some of our most common listener questions. We go behind the scenes to talk about the production process and give you a sneak peek into what’s coming up next on Betrayal.

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She lost her husband to a brutal crime, only to realize she never really had him at all. 

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