In honor of the fifth anniversary of TODAY with Hoda & Jenna¸Hoda is revisiting her conversation with co-host and friend Jenna Bush Hager from Season 1 of Making Space. As you?ll hear, Hoda and Jenna are friendly on air because they?re real friends off-air ? and their friendship has only grown and deepened over the years. We are again inviting you into this intimate conversation, touching on everything from lessons learned by example during childhood to what it meant for Jenna to turn 40. Together, Hoda and Jenna talk about birth, love, loss and the importance of work ethic. Plus, a special look back at the highlights and moments that touch on what Hoda is finally making space for.

Drew Brees spent 20 years as an NFL quarterback, playing on the New Orleans Saints for 15 seasons. Brees is a leader on and off the field, and in 2010, he led the Saints to their first ever Super Bowl championship, helping to bring back the spirit of the city after the devastation of Hurricane Katrina. For Brees and wife Brittany, playing for the Saints was about more than football, it was a calling to be part of something greater. Brees sat down with Hoda Kotb to discuss his prolific career, life after football and their mutual love for New Orleans.

Chip Conley is a bestselling author and co-founder of the Modern Elder Academy, the world?s first ?midlife wisdom school?. After an impressive career in the hospitality industry, first as the founder of Joie de Vivre Hospitality, then as Airbnb?s Head of Global Hospitality and Strategy, Conley is now leading a worldwide revolution to re-frame midlife. In his latest book ?Learning to Love Midlife: 12 Reasons Why Life Gets Better with Age?, Conley is changing the narrative around midlife, helping people to navigate this often misunderstood lifestage. Conley joins Hoda Kotb for an inspiring conversation, sharing tips to navigate midlife with a renewed sense of purpose and possibility. 

Arthur Brooks is a bestselling author, acclaimed public speaker and professor at the Harvard School of Business, where he teaches courses on leadership and happiness. Brooks joined Hoda Kotb for a conversation on the art and science of getting happier, and how to build the life you want. The two discuss practices to increase happiness, how to get unstuck, how to parent and why happiness is not a destination, but a direction.

It?s hard to imagine Academy Award-winning actress Viola Davis survived the childhood she did. Bullied at a young age for being different, Davis now realizes the power ? and the potency ? of those differences. Davis sat down with Hoda Kotb in spring of 2022 for an intimate conversation on overcoming trauma and how to shape your own future, one leg of the relay race at a time.

Keith Morrison is an award-winning correspondent for Dateline NBC, beloved journalist and host of several #1 podcasts. He?s made a speciality of true crime mysteries, and after more than five decades in the business, he?s gained status as a pop culture icon. Morrison joins Hoda Kotb to discuss his prolific career, his upcoming Dateline original podcast ?Murder in the Hollywood Hills? and the loss of his stepson, actor Matthew Perry.

Bestselling author Brianna Wiest has touched millions of readers with her books and quotes featuring messages of empowerment, self-reflection and hope. She found healing and growth in the written word while overcoming personal struggles, and now, she hopes to help others through her writing. Wiest joins Hoda Kotb to discuss her own journey inward, the impact she hopes her words have and her latest book ?The Pivot Year: 365 Days to Become the Person You Truly Want to Be?.

Ziggy Marley is a musician, producer, author, Grammy winner, activist, humanitarian and son of beloved musician Bob Marley. Growing up in the Marley household, it?s no surprise that his life has always been filled with music. Marley joins Hoda Kotb to discuss his father?s legacy, the side of his dad many didn?t know and his role as a producer on the recent film ?Bob Marley: One Love?.

Savannah Guthrie joins Hoda Kotb to discuss her latest book, ?Mostly What God Does: Reflections on Seeking and Finding His Love Everywhere?. Guthrie beautifully and vulnerably opens up about the role of faith in her life, the power of divine love and the inspiration behind this collection of essays. She shares personal stories of moments that have tested her faith, strengthened her belief and left her in awe. As Guthrie so beautifully puts it, mostly what God does is love? and you can feel the love in every word of this uplifting and inspiring conversation.

Making Space with Hoda Kotb is back for Season 5! Join TODAY?s Hoda Kotb as she continues on a personal journey of self-discovery and learning. This season, she sits down with guests like former NFL quarterback Drew Brees, reggae musician Ziggy Marley, self-help author Brianna Wiest and her very own TODAY co-anchor Savannah Guthrie.

Catch the premiere episode of Season 5 with guest Savannah Guthrie, Wednesday, February 21st. Follow now

Rabbi Steve Leder, bestselling author and Senior Rabbi of Wilshire Boulevard Temple in Los Angeles, has learned and witnessed the many ways death teaches us how to live, and love, more deeply by showing us not only what is gone, but also the beauty of what remains. Rabbi Leder joins Hoda Kotb for an inspiring conversation about life, loss and the profound way in which the two intertwine. Rabbi Leder shares his belief that in the end, there is nothing that matters but love, and the simple message that will change the way you live - it?s never too late.

You can change your life. That?s the mantra motivational expert Mel Robbins lives by. And it?s the very reason millions of people around the globe, Hoda included, follow Mel and the advice she shares in her TEDx Talk and on her podcast. Mel believes that change is much easier than we imagine ? we just have to stop thinking too much. 

In this invigorating, inspiring and very frank conversation from January 2023, Hoda Kotb sat down with Mel to talk about her famous 5-second rule, the truth about motivation and how to make big life changes. Hoda asks Mel the questions we all want answers to - How can we be better versions of ourselves? When can we expect results? And why should we make these changes? The answer to that last one is simple - because you deserve this.

Lynne Twist is a global visionary committed to alleviating poverty, ending world hunger, empowering the status of women and girls, supporting social justice and environmental sustainability. The scope of Lynne?s impact ranges from working with Mother Teresa in Calcutta, to working with refugees in camps in Ethiopia, exploring the threatened rainforests of the Amazon and guiding the philanthropy of some of the world?s wealthiest families. Lynne joins Hoda Kotb to discuss her impactful career, finding your calling and what it means to live a committed life.

Ally Love is the epitome of a multi-hyphenate. She?s a Peloton instructor, model, dancer, TODAY Show contributor, arena host of the Brooklyn Nets, CEO and founder of her female empowerment company, ?Love Squad?... and so much more. She?s a one-woman hype-machine, on a mission to empower, inspire and uplift. Ally helps others approach their mental and physical well-being in a positive light, providing motivation and good energy every step of the way. Ally sat down with Hoda Kotb to share where she finds inspiration, from her faith, to her family and more.

Nicole Avant is a philanthropist, diplomat, filmmaker, actress and author. Her father, Clarence Avant, was a music legend and entertainment mogul, and her mother, Jacqueline Avant, was a legendary philanthropist. Nicole grew up around some of the most extraordinary artists of our time, including Bill Withers, Quincy Jones and Sidney Portier, and drew from her upbringing to create a noteworthy career of her own. But everything changed for Nicole in 2021, when her mother was fatally shot during a failed home invasion. Nicole channeled her grief, and turned her pain into fuel to write her beautiful memoir, ?Think You?ll Be Happy?. She joins Hoda Kotb to share her journey, reflecting on managing her grief, finding forgiveness and moving ahead when the people who defined you and guided you are no longer physically here.

In this raw and revealing conversation from August 2021, Suleika Jaouad, New York Times bestselling author of ?Between Two Kingdoms: A Memoir of a Life Interrupted? and her partner, music legend, Jon Batiste join Hoda Kotb to talk about Suleika?s cancer journey, and their life together, both the highs and the lows. At the time, Suleika was celebrating seven years cancer-free. Since then, her cancer returned for the second time.

Melissa Etheridge is one of rock music?s great icons. She burst onto the American rock scene as a singer-songwriter in 1988 with her self-titled debut album, and hasn?t left it since. Melissa has remained one of America?s favorite singer-songwriters for over three decades, with two Grammys and fifteen nominations, an Academy Award, five platinum albums, and more accolades marking her prolific career. The rockstar, mother, activist and trailblazer shares her story in her memoir ?Talking to My Angels?, including her battle with breast cancer, the heartbreaking loss of her son and how music has gotten her through it all. Melissa sat down with Hoda Kotb to open up about it all, sharing the lessons she?s learned and how she continues to evolve, on stage and in life.

Erin Andrews is a fixture on the NFL sidelines. She?s been a sportscaster for more than two decades, and is a legend in the sports industry. But like the rest of us, not every season has felt like a winning one for Erin. She?s learned that some test your strength, your endurance and your drive to keep going. Erin opened up to Hoda Kotb about the road to becoming one of sports tv?s brightest stars, her cervical cancer diagnosis, her battle with infertility and her journey to motherhood. Erin continues to inspire on and off the field, as she celebrates the busiest and best season of her life yet.

Rainn Wilson is an Emmy nominated actor, writer, producer, New York Times bestselling author and? spiritual explorer. You may know him for playing the role of ?Dwight Schrute?, the annoying but lovable salesman on NBC?s hit series ?The Office?, but there is so much more to Rainn than the characters he plays on screen. In his latest book ?Soul Boom?, Rainn is calling for a spiritual revolution as part of his personal journey. He sat down with Hoda Kotb to discuss embracing his spirituality, finding balance and living in a state of awe, curiosity and gratitude.

If you think you know Maria Menounos, think again. As a reporter, host, actor, producer, New York Times bestselling author and podcast host, she has been a light on our tv screens for more than 20 years. Her life has been quite a ride, with both highs and lows, and at each turn, she?s exhibited incredible strength, grace and unshakeable faith. Maria joins Hoda Kotb to discuss her health journey, her battle with pancreatic cancer, her road to motherhood and how she?s using what she?s learned to help others heal.

Making Space with Hoda Kotb is back for Season 4! Join TODAY show?s Hoda Kotb as she continues on a personal journey of self-discovery and learning. This season, she sits down with guests actor & author Rainn Wilson, entertainment journalist & podcast host Maria Menounos, music legend Melissa Etheridge, sportscaster Erin Andrews and more. 

The first two episodes of Season 4 premiere Wednesday, November 15. Follow now 

In this bonus episode of Making Space, Eva Longoria opens up to Hoda about her heritage, why philanthropy holds such a special place in her heart and landing the role that would change everything for her. The two connect on the significance of motherhood, inspiring the next generation, and diligently working towards this moment.

After settling into married life five years ago, releasing a memoir during the pandemic, then welcoming daughter Malti, Priyanka Chopra Jonas is ready to get back to the role she knows best ? kicking butt on the small screen. She?s entering this ?new season? of her life as a working wife and mom, starring as a spy in Prime Video?s new thriller action drama Citadel and in the romantic comedy Love Again, co-starring Celine Dion (with a fun cameo from her husband Nick Jonas).

In this episode,  Hoda Kotb interviewed Priyanka virtually ? Hoda from 30 Rock, Priyanka from Mumbai ? for Hoda?s first-ever TODAY.com cover story interview.  As you?ll hear - Priyanka is honest, deeply reflective, and beautifully open to this next phase of life. She opens up about Malti?s 100-day stay in the NICU, sharing how Nick Jonas was her strength when she needed it and how she had to be her daughter?s strength when she needed it most.  This is a conversation between Hoda Kotb and Priyanka Chopra Jonas for TODAY?s spring cover story. For more go to http://www.today.com/specials/priyanka-chopra-jonas-today-cover-story/index.html.

Inspired by MAKING SPACE the podcast, TODAY with Hoda & Jenna dedicated an entire hour to wellness. In this special episode MAKING SPACE FOR YOU, experts help you make the most of life by focusing on mind, body, and soul.  Best-selling author Nedra Glover Tawwab offers tips on living a drama-free life, Dr. Christian Gonzalez touches on healing through nutrition and Mangit Devgun shares practices for restoring the mind and body.

Plus, Hoda reflects on what she?s learned from Making Space guests over the last three seasons and Jenna shares her personal journey with wellness.

If you look solely at the success of her body of work, you?d never guess Oscar-nominated actress Rosie Perez is dealing with the effects of her painful childhood. But over the course of her career and life, Rosie has chosen to focus on the good. In this final episode of the season, Rosie reflects on her own strength and resilience, and she looks back fondly at those who believed in her. Raw and honest, Rosie is making space for healing. She always knew she?d make it, after hearing her conversation with Hoda, you?ll see why.

Almost 30 years ago, when she was a local journalist at WWL in New Orleans, Hoda Kotb met another TV reporter by the name of Karen Swensen. The connection was instantaneous, and they?ve been best friends ever since. Together, they?ve navigated some of life?s most challenging moments, like illness and loss, and they?ve also celebrated each other?s joyful moments. As their lives have evolved, so too has their friendship. In this very special episode, Hoda and Karen reflect back on life, love, motherhood, and friendship. Life?s about change ? and, together, they?re embracing it.

Maria Shriver has spent a lifetime unpacking her experiences: Whether it?s grief, her relationship with faith, illness, or how she was raised, talking to Maria is always profound. And, as she?s navigated her own personal journey, Maria has figured out not only how to manage situations, but how to live her most authentic life. She opens up like never before, sharing with Hoda what she?s learned through the challenging times, the importance of knowing when to walk away, and how she finally gave herself permission to be Maria.

As the top-selling female country music artist in history, Shania Twain has seen decades of career highs. But, behind the music, Shania experienced incredible challenges. In this deeply personal conversation with Hoda, Shania reflects on her difficult childhood, the loss of her parents, and her battle with the disease that almost cost the artist her voice. Now in her fifties, Shania is once again on top. With new music and an upcoming tour, she is talking to Hoda about becoming the ?Queen of Me.?

In an earlier version of this ?Making Space? Shania Twain episode we misstated her age.  She is 57.

How did Steve Harvey go from living in his car to becoming one of the most influential entertainers of our time? What did he tell himself during those trying moments - and how does he really feel about going through life with a backup plan?

Steve shares with Hoda how he got here, and what he?s learned along the way. He also offers advice to anyone who feels like they?re up against a challenge right now. Spoiler alert - you might as well keep going.

When did the top-selling and most decorated female gospel artist of all time realize she had a gift? As CeCe Winans shares with Hoda, when she sang and saw adults moved to tears, she knew she?d been blessed with something special ? the spirit behind her voice. CeCe also reflects on the beautiful role of music in her life, her deep friendship with the late Whitney Houston and she shares lessons about passing faith onto the next generation. All you have to do is believe.

Country music legend Wynonna Judd joins Hoda for a powerful and raw conversation just months after the passing of her beloved mom, Naomi. Together, Wynonna and Hoda reflect on Naomi?s legacy, the impact of her passing on their family, and Wynonna shares how she?s making space for both grief and joy as she forges ahead? tough and tender.

You can change your life. That?s the mantra motivational expert Mel Robbins lives by. And it?s the very reason millions of people around the globe, Hoda included, follow Mel and the advice she shares in her TEDx Talk and on her podcast. Mel believes that change is much easier than we imagine ? and we just have to stop thinking too much. She swears by the 5- second rule.

In this invigorating, inspiring and very frank conversation, Hoda asks the questions we all want answers to. How can we be better versions of ourselves? When can we expect results? And why should we make these changes? The answer to that last one is simple - because you deserve this.

In what Hoda calls one of her favorite interviews ever, she sits down with real life pals George Clooney and Julia Roberts. The two appear together on screen for the sixth time in the new romantic comedy ?Ticket to Paradise,? (produced by Universal Pictures, owned by NBC?s parent company NBCUniversal). They touch on parenting twins, their 20-year friendship and the one thing they don?t see eye to eye on. Find out why Hoda calls their friendship pure magic.

Rita Moreno has been an icon of stage and screen for over seven decades, making history as the first Latina to win an Academy Award for her 1961 performance as Anita in West Side Story. But life wasn?t always easy for Rosita, as she calls her young self. In this episode of Making Space, Rita gets real about the pressures of Hollywood, her troubled romance with Marlon Brando, and how ? at 90 years old ? she loves what she does now more than ever. Rita also shares about her path to creative fulfillment and self-acceptance, and reminds us of the power of hard work? Sometimes the impossible is just one opportunity away.

For more of Rita Moreno?s story, you can watch NBC?s special, ?Inspiring America: The 2022 Inspiration List,? celebrating extraordinary people making an impact. You can watch it on demand on Peacock.

Rita Moreno shared a story about her attempt to take her own life. If you or anyone you know is struggling, please reach out to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255) or text TALK (8255) to 741741.

Famed screenplay writer and author Delia Ephron got a second chance at life and love, both later in life. After suffering back-to-back losses, she coped by putting her pen to paper, offering perspective and lessons of hope and resilience. Equal parts insightful and entertaining, Delia connects with Hoda on everything from finding joy after 50 to the frustrations we all feel when taking the first steps on a new path.

Viola Davis on finding herself. It?s hard to imagine the Academy Award-winning actress survived the childhood she did. Bullied at a young age for being different, Viola now realizes the power ? and the potency ? of those differences. Viola joins Hoda for an intimate conversation on overcoming trauma and how to shape your own future, one leg of the relay race at a time.

Bravo star, author, and fellow podcaster Bevy Smith had it all: A powerful career, financial success, and a strong sense of self-worth. But at 38, she quit her job to pursue a brand-new career? one she knew would fulfill her calling and sense of purpose. How did she do it, and what advice does she have for other ?late bloomers? out there? A master negotiator and firm believer in her own value, Bevy Smith is living proof that it gets greater later.

The last 20 years of Kim Kardashian?s life have been a whirlwind. From busy schedules to booming businesses and ever-present paparazzi, life for Kim is hectic. So, how does she find what she calls a ?sense of inner calmness?? Kim is taking a break from keeping up with everything? and making space for Hoda. They talk transitioning out of relationships, lessons learned from Kim?s famous family, and her idea of a perfect afternoon.

It?s been more than five years since country superstar Thomas Rhett has made space for an alone day. So how would the devoted husband and father of four spend time off the grid? And when was he happiest? Hoda finds out. We also hear from Thomas on the impact of his parents? divorce, the beautiful decision to adopt their oldest daughter and why he never made it prom. As Thomas tells Hoda, that?s just life.

On this episode of Making Space, Hoda sits down with comedian Amy Schumer as she prepares to host the Academy Awards. Amy touches on everything from growing up as class clown to the famous names who gave her advice before this year's awards. Equal parts funny and genuine, Amy also opens up about motherhood, that headline-grabbing plastic surgery announcement, and what makes her own mom most proud.

On this episode of Making Space with Hoda Kotb, when Hoda stumbled upon a clip of singer and pastor Wintley Phipps performing ?Amazing Grace,? she was immediately drawn to his voice and presence and knew she wanted to connect with him for Making Space. In this episode, Wintley shares who inspires him and how he?s found his life?s most fulling work. And his wisdom and guidance will have you seeking your own highest purpose.

Hoda sits down with former NFL linebacker Emmanuel Acho, creator of Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man. Emmanuel shares how he found his calling ? not in his strength on the football field ? but with the power of listening and sharing the stories of others, first online and then with a best-selling book. Released by five pro teams in five years, Emmanuel learned the true meaning of perseverance. And just like all of us, he?s faced rejection, criticism, and moments of uncertainty. But as Emmanuel puts it, having a setback isn?t failing, it?s falling: and if you can get back up, you win.

On this special episode of Making Space, Hoda sits down exclusively with Matt Hutchins, whose wife Halyna died after a gun discharged on the set of the film Rust in October 2021. Matt opens up about loss, legacy, moving forward, and how he?s making space to heal.

You probably know Jenna Bush Hager as Hoda?s co-host on TODAY with Hoda & Jenna. As you?ll hear, they?re so friendly on air because they?re real friends off-air ? and their friendship has only grown and deepened over the years. And because this podcast has been about friendship and wisdom, there?s no better way to bring it all home than with a girlfriend. For our last episode of Season One, we invite you into an intimate conversation, touching on everything from lessons learned by example during childhood to what it means for Jenna to turn 40. Together, Hoda and Jenna talk about birth, love, loss and the importance of work ethic. Plus, a special look back at the highlights and moments that touch on what Hoda is finally making space for.

Nine-time Grammy Award-winner Sheryl Crow has spent the last three decades performing for sold-out crowds and festivals. But rarely do we get a glimpse into her very private personal life. Today, as Sheryl approaches sixty, she sits down with Hoda for a very intimate conversation. They connect over experiences they?ve both endured ? like surviving breast cancer and the dissolution of a relationship. They also share a deep joy in simple things like the honor of motherhood later in life and the fulfillment that comes with reaching this stage in the game. Sheryl shares what she?s learned ? perspective she?s gained from her own mother, her sons and thirty years in the music industry.

Life Coach Iyanla Vanzant joins Hoda for a meaningful and eye-opening conversation. Stepping away after ten seasons of her smash hit ?Iyanla: Fix My Life? on OWN, Iyanla answers difficult questions like how you know when something good has run its course and when (and how) to move on. Plus, picking up the pieces after heartbreak and unimaginable loss. Iyanla?s personal story is one of strength and resilience and her spiritual guidance is something we can all apply in our own lives.

When sportswriter Mitch Albom started meeting with his former professor Morrie Schwartz toward the end of Morrie?s life, Mitch had no idea the impact those meetings would have ? not only on him, but around the world. Mitch compiled those lessons into a book, and, nearly twenty-five years and 17 million copies of Tuesdays with Morrie later, Mitch Albom continues to apply the lessons learned from Morrie to live a richer and more purposeful life. Throughout this conversation, Hoda and Mitch connect on love, loss and legacy. As Mitch so beautifully details in this emotional conversation, ?what we choose to fill our arms with, and what we choose to carry is actually what ends up defining us.?

Oprah Winfrey and Maria Shriver describe their forty-two-year friendship as loyal, consistent and honest. Together they?ve navigated the ups and downs of life: births, deaths, marriage, divorce?and their own evolution. In this intimate and insightful conversation, Oprah and Maria share with Hoda what their four decades together have meant, and they look ahead to all the beauty yet to come. Plus, how do you surprise the queen of surprises? Oprah opens up about one of the darkest times in her life and how an unexpected moment brought her to her knees.

Best-selling author Anne Lamott knows a thing about overcoming obstacles. Thirty-five years on the other side of her addiction, Anne is the author of 19 books, a mother, grandmother, and in her 60s, a wife for the first time. Anne offers wisdom, candidly, and often, hilariously. She shares what she calls "operating instructions": how to master a life of peace and gratitude?a reminder that grace always meets you exactly where you are.

At just 22 years old, writer Suleika Jaouad was given a 1-in-3 chance to live after a deadly cancer diagnosis. Today, she's celebrating seven years cancer-free. In a raw and revealing conversation, Suleika shares what it is like to stare down death, and why she feels fighting for your life isn't the hardest part of the journey ? it?s what happens after the fight is over. Suleika shares how she learned to anchor herself while swimming in a sea of uncertainty. Plus, her partner and Academy Award-winning musician Jon Batiste joins the interview.