Bits and Bobs 
Rachel?s in Devon where Lol once lived too
My flower or Mayflower? It?s a right how-do-you-do!
?Where you to?? is ?What?s up!? - like a cream tea served
The Pilgrims? Olde English in Aspic preserved

Bobs and Books 
Log cabin moves and Festival grooves 
It was Great to be out of the Books
From Solitary to Socialising
Playing Gigs and Fraternising 
After 3 years preparing the Hooks

Books and Blackheads
Secret Messages from the studio - Bye-bye blackheads hello Budgie! 
The Banshees and The Cure got groovy with the spiral code
Horses names and Eat The Blotter ? Miles Hunt wanted to be a Trucker
It?s the wrong end of the Stickshift for the Romance of The Road

Barcelona and Berlin
From Gateshead to Brazil Budgie walks in all dry places 
Lol rarely left his room now he loves, and he embraces 
Rachel?s Grateful for it all so far from sketchy pasts 
The 90s were a haze, now everything?s ablaze 

Budgies and Banjos
Rachel got her first guitar at 7 years old 
with her head between the speakers, she would sing, 
?I?m the only Goth in Reading? and the band names she was spreading
changed from Slowburn into Slowdive - well it had a better ring.

Bob and Beats
A video in the Warehouse 
of a Slowdive in The Dreamhouse
Budgie?s drum fill makes Bob?s Day.
Siouxsie?s portrait très Risqué. 

Respect: Angelo Badalamenti - ?Floating Into The Night? (March 22 1937 - December 11 2022)

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The Isms Cometh! 
Budgie and The iconic Slits - Holly Johnson as a bad-ass-bass-player! 
8th notes on the floortom - how LOW can you GO?)
Don?t lose it - let your individuality flow. 
Simone cites Motown?s James Lee Emerson, Blockheads? Norman Watt Roy
And our old pal Simon Gallup as bass mentors.

Plays like Poetry!
Lol says Budgie is drums, Budgie says Lol is Drums, 
Lol says Bidgie is drims, Badgie sees Lil is Drams!

Poetry like Pottery!
Budgie in London?s China Town for Choco glasses and salad bowls.
You don?t have to be, crazy but it helps if you are.
Lol had the loudest Chinese cymbal ever, from Ray Man?s of London
Budgie had the 2nd loudest and Singing Bowls, also from Ray Man?s of London!
Jimmy Page told Pearl you?re too loud (He should know!) 

Potty like Putty!
Lol hears Simon perfectly for the first time on Reflections!
Gary Numan and subtitles on TV?
Tommy Lee and Lol friends from yesteryear.
Bro rate for LXB and a Shit load of drums 
Simone sat Monsieur le Birdie? 

Tommy Lee?s Gong! 
What is it about Tommy?s gong? - (We still love Mike Oldfield?s Tubular Bell) 
Budgie drums and has all the accents too - (They?re Regional accents - Voice over Vocation calling)
Baby Jane?s in Acapulco - Simone?s going down to Rio! - (well Mexico? not far?)
Simone says, if not for music it would be art ? (Loves sound as healer and sign language) 
Lol digs Therapy in the Integratron. Budgie digs The Neon Graveyard in Vegas!
Trippy and Psychedelic Newcastle and it?s neon bridge! 
The Fog on the Tyne is all mine all mine ? (so good we said it twice)
Didn?t we have a lovely time in the white hills - white hills, what white hills?

What about Daevid Allen?s Gong?

With Respect: James Lee Emerson - Motown?s Bass Master. (29 January 1936 ? 2 August 1983)

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The Sand. 
Out there, post-lockdown Screamadelica tour 
Tokyo, Japan and everywhere more 
Traditional politeness for the visiting Brits
First gigs post-pandemic, please play all the hits!  

Lol liked the silence and the gifts from Japan
But he drank all the bath salts, which wasn?t the plan
Simone received sweetness to comb through her hair 
Budgie got Pocari Sweat at the Manga Street fair 

Cherry blossom season caused a big sake thirst,
Who threw the phone through the window first?
Robert and Siouxsie were almost deported 
No return for ten years - though ?twas never reported.

The Oyster.
Budgie and Simone at the breakfast bar 
calling Lol from Europe ? to say, ?Hello La!?
On the bus with the crew, what?s the golden rule?
Traveller?s ?Toilette?, does not accept ?Le Stool!? 

Simone auditioned for Primal Scream 
She learnt all the songs and realised a dream 
No more living on chips and travelin? in a van 
Bobby treats the band well, he?s a Gentleman

Siouxsie?s manager Nils asked Budgie to audition
Ex-Slits Budgie did a good Palmolive impression. 
Success celebrated with a ?Roll-up? and a beer, 
Lol and Simone had young Ant, Adam?s ear! 

The Pearl. 
Simone in a film about the homeless that sears. 
Their lonely lives lightened by the unconditional love,
of a dog they can talk to when no-one else hears
It?s a story that moves with a powerful shove.

Scary ghost stories and thunder and lightning,  
A bus shows Budgie that his mother?s around.
Simone?s grandpa?s goodbye is a story quite frightening,
Lol says Budgie knows things about Lol that astound! 

For Lol the first 4 Cure albums are significantly spiritual 
Though that?s not to say others misunderstood 
It?s the sand in the oyster that makes the pearl beautiful
It?s not Hunky Dory - but the friction is good! 

?I don?t want a cure for this.? ?Love Hangover? - Diana Ross (1976) 

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Lol and Budgie Join Hands in 1979
40 Years Beyond Music = The Mystique of Creating Culture 
Two Drummers Drumming = Our Mutual Bond
A Gang of Starving Artists = Salt Scrub Therapy? 
Books and Records = Earth and Identity

Art and Money - Bad in Bed? 
Music as Religion and Revolution 
Budgie meets Francis Bacon in Harrods & Lucien Freud in NY?
Another Green World just two beats away.
Jen has a Sylvia Plath Pen and Ink
(And we don?t mean a Cockney Stink)

What If?
Jimi Hendrix outlived Club 27 
The Grave of Jim Morrison had no Graffiti
Sartre and Simone de Beauvoir never met  
WW2 never happened and The Berlin wall never existed 

Why We Need.
Brass plaques for Berlin?s Murdered Jews 
Thoughts of Our Fathers and how Europe changed.
The Ability to Create from Nothing
Kathryn Mannix and a Preparation for Dying.

Is It Ever Enough? 
Budgie tried to leave music - but music wouldn?t let go! 
30 years of Reinventing Ourselves 
The Cult of Lol, The Cult of Lol, The Cult of Lol (?tis a mighty fine thang thrice!)
We knew Jen would make a Groovy Episode!

In love with - ?I?m Sticking with You? ? The Velvet Underground - 1969

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Jen Loves Us! 
We are Nerds, Podcast virgins, we are old dogs for new
we have Budgie as Yenta - we have Lol in his pew
we have weddings in the desert - at the Church of Whatever,
Budgie Tambourines for Jesus ? it?s a Hooker?s Endeavour.

Rock Star Cult! 
Like a Hawk holding Rings from Monday ?til Sunday 
Every night is a Saturday when you?re in a band 
On a two-year tour ? Jen?s teen love was the Cure 
It?s a Dark Gothic Berlin and a Devious Hollywood land

I?m a Celebrity, Get me Out of Here! 
The Cult of Fandom and Marc Bolan Glamdom
Is there mystery in Bowie?s bolero? 
Budgie?s hot chocolate and Lol?s discombobulate 
Are there Artichokes in Old Pescadero?

The Price of Fame!
It?s all so much bigger than two of us knew
Will Santa Cruz welcome us soon?
To circle the square - Jen leaves for elsewhere
The keys to the city or a trip to the Moon?

Budgie in Berlin, Lol in LA
We wanted to leave, and a band was the ticket 
Home can be anywhere when we?re ok and sane.
Our Past is elusive like that strange game of cricket
Jack Frost freezes time on our mind?s windowpane

Dedicated to the memory of Marc Bolan (30 September 1947 ? 16 September 1977) ?Get it On ? Bang a Gong ? Get it On?

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(Hello, Virgin Records?)
Every mile away from London
Is a mile away from where he needed to be.
Subsequent Chronological Milestones:  
PIL (The Good Years) 79 - 85 / Killing Joke - Extremities / Ministry - In A Cage - 12 Weeks of insanity
Pig Face ? 600 degrees of separation - Budgie has the baseball cap!  
NIN?S Head like a Hole and Wish / Murder Inc and still out there!  

Street lives?. (Rail ?em in and Regiment)
Setlists? Who uses a set-list?
PIL had a looseness that belied their commitment
New York Gig discussion ? what do we start with?
3000 people Martin onstage and John and Keith have left the building
Keith Levine wanted only green lighting ? John Lydon wanted to be back in the hotel.  

Strippers and Homework in the Dressing room
No rehearsals - like an old-style jazz band
How we gonna end? - Smoke signals!  
Serving time in North of England Labour clubs
Backstage Beer in the Pot, or is it?

Satisfying Sayonaras...
Leaving The Mynd and its Mellotron  
Martin goes to London
Melody Maker ad ? Drummer required for well-known singer.
?I?m really good ? can I audition today??
Wait ? we just Set the drummer on fire!

Serendipitous Savings?
Curator of Chicago?s Post Punk Museum  
Dressing room sign from American Bandstand
Martin?s Mickey Mouse watch
Whiskey and Meditation

Scintillating Scent of Success ?
Speed, Alcohol plus Scratch and Sniff Banana postcards!
No. 3 = Smell of Money
No. 4 = Sweaty Boys in a Mosh Pit
No. 5 = Paper cup from a John Peel session
Happy Anniversaries and Memories  
No diary for Lol the Existentialist

Two Sides to Every Story?
Theory begets Reality
Martin = 90% Comedian; 10% Historian
Owning our past - 1st Class or 2nd Class?  
Crystal clear recollections of
Johnny Rotten, Jazz Coleman and Al Jourgensen

Superior Performers?
A bus-full of Junkies and Chlorine Gas  
Tolerance and Respect for Crazy Charismatic people  
A Rare and Undefinable Breed
Martin - The Monarch
Budgie - The Duke
Lol - The Emperor

Read it in Books.
We?re blessed and grateful to be here
Three drummers and a Practice pad
We belong together
Like Three Peas in a Pod

Dedicated to the Memory of Jeff Ward (November 18, 1962 ? March 19, 1993) and William ?Bill? Fredrick Rieflin II (September 30, 1960 ? March 24, 2020)

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Pepper Loves TKK
NYC 1000 Years ago 
Lol jumps Boulders in Central Park
Banshees at the Beacon Theatre
Lol and The Cure again for Reflections
Budgie at The Mayflower and The Grammercy Park 
Watch out for the Cockroaches!

Lol Loves LA - Home Sweet Home!
Not Discovered or Destroyed 
Personalities and Support Systems
Pepper?s NYC lockdown - Throwing tips for food.
Booster Party Time! 

Budgie and Pepper Chock full of Antibodies
NYC still loud!
The Stage is still Fun!
Choir at 7 years old 
Lol - no stage fright singing Gilbert and Sullivan  
10,000 people in the subway?

Benny and The Jets did it for Pepper!
Not Socially awkward but Social outcasts
Punky Pepper met TKK in a Pittsburgh Parking lot 
Hot Damn! She Joins the band! 
Budgie on stage in Chicago with TKK 

The Cocktail Bar.
Lol and The Cure shook Cocktails in Buckets!
Pepper?s crew used a Wheelbarrow!
Less than 3 or More than 3?
Let?s get Completely Cathartic!

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Q:1 Mark C of the Gold Coast asks will Budgie make a Beatboxing debut?
Budgie demonstrates the orifice-ial beats to ?El Dia De Los Muertos? and ?Tattoo?. 
Maybe a beatbox compilation? 

Q:2 Eric Vonk asks about the 1980?s synth-drum ? did we fall in love?
Lol went, Tsch-tsch, Stephen Morris went, ka-ka-ka-ka and Budgie went, Dink-dink & Drooove!
We all were in danger of serious wrist injury ? but yes, we fell in love.

Q:3 Eric also asks Lol for his happiest moment in The Cure, Lol talks about the Top and coming to America. Budgie tries to paraphrase and his short-term memory loss gets the better of him.

And it?s a Happy Anniversary to Us! 
1979 ? 43 years ago Lol and Budgie first shared a stage, when The Cure and Siouxsie and The Banshees played together at Leicester?s De Montfort Hall in England. Then the largest venue in Leicester, The Beatles also played here just after their return from Hamburg in 1963. 

Bet you didn?t know that ? we certainly didn?t! 

What a happy memory, without which we probably wouldn?t be here together today.

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Only his mother and Micky D., call Lol, Laurence
Budgie posits, Micky D., polished the shoes on the tour bus 
Were the banshees upset when Robert left the Banshees?
What would have happened - had that not happened?

Strangeness in the Studio  
Robert there, but not there - nothing was said there.
Bobby Keys only for Hyaena - It was a long album.
Bob?s position was untenable. 

Ideal of the band was primo important to Lol 
Post Pornography Chemistry Dysfunction (PPCD)
Lol went to Cadaques with a French girl 
They had a cat on a lead ? Dali-esque.

Hyaena and The Top, released simultaneously!
The Top was restful - Japanese Whispers ? was a fitting title 
Budgie visited the filming of The Walk video and most Cure videos 
Did Severin want Robert to remain a Banshee?

Lisa from Newcastle carved the Fish guitar .
Budgie spots the Cure constant ? (?)
Pornography was the pinnacle of the 3-piece Cure 
Budgie recalls Robert and sister Janet sitting side-by-side
Recording the harpsichord for Dear Prudence 

Songs built from Jams - until they?re not.
Did the Banshees change Robert 
or did Robert just change? 
Where The Banshees always a 3-piece at heart? 

?What did we say Budgie??
?I dunno? what did we say Lol??
?We said, what we said, is what we said.?
??Nuff said then??

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Pulling Back the Curtain:

Spicy?
Lollapalooza and President Obama, all Presidents want to be chefs, 
All chefs want to be rock stars, do all Presidents want to be rock stars? 
Why is going to shows no Fun anymore?
We stand at the turning point, no longer second guessing. 
Lol reveals the live ?Holy Hour? bell is the sound from the record 

Sweet?.
The Art of Cooking as a Creative force,
Do chefs perform their big culinary hits like, ?Sea-Urchin Ice Cream?? 
How do we balance the set list?
We are just a conduit ? it?s a 50/50 thing!

Salty?
We don?t have a menu, you eat what we like,
our set-lists as menu full of question marks.
Bring your friends for the gateway drug!

Savoury?
The Banshees were the only Brits on the First Lollapalooza 
Graham wasn?t running the catering then, but The Banshees had bread and butter backstage,
The Butthole Surfers had only beer!
Is it the place or the food Ingredients that make the Experience?
Is it the sunshine and stuff?

Sizzling?
Graham feeds 500,000 for Obamas 49th birthday party, 
That?s 495,000 more than Jesus had to cater for!
The Secret (Silver) Service, tasted everything, 
Obama took a Selfie with all the catering crew!  

Sugary...
To make beautiful pictures, learn the rules, then throw them all away
Today?s chefs are a little less crazy - a small restaurant with simple food,
Fine dining or a head-like-a-hole-in-the-wall pasta place? 
The show is everything, simple but satisfying. 

Smoking?
Lol and Budgie threw away all the usual ingredients to make something unique and exciting.  
We gave each other the permission to throw the baby out with the bath water ? Haha! 
Only a few blue angels and one astronaut have the know-how! 
The hardest thing to do, is to make or do the best one can,
that says, this is who I am. (Thank you, Graham.) 

Raise your Forks to: La Grande Bouffe (1973) Directed by Marco Ferreri - Music: Philip Sarde.
?Decadent, Self-Loathing, Cynical and Frequently Obscene? ? in short perfect! 

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Landscape redefined by skateboarder Mason, 
Silva planned routines to Budgies drums 
It?s the space outside of the sound we?re chasin?   
Cinematic for the Banshees and their chums  

Images influenced the sounds created 
Alfred Hitchock - Suburban Relapse 
The shower scene in Psycho, a shrine, gold-plated 
Herrmann?s score hitting every synapse. 

(Pause ? aka: dead airtime ? but not this time!)

Charlie Mingus stressed the import of the notes un-played,
PJ Harvey finds inspiration in a place un-stayed.  
Justin always hears sweet music in the rattle of his car 
Familiar London Studios became unfamiliar from afar.

The Creatures flew to Hawaii, to record their debut, 
the jungle fed the music, and the conch shell blew.
Victor Boullet played Metallica to get The Creatures mad,
Ross Robinson and Simon came close to something very bad!

?No Hi-hat!? ordered Siouxsie, ?No Hairspray in my mix!?
Budgie moved the hi-hat out but played with magic sticks,
Creating things from nothing was our drumming bird?s propensity,
His Drumming in the Dreamhouse throbbed with LSD intensity 

Justin and DMT experiment, Lol and Budgie too, 
Budgie, Lol and Justin want healthy things to chew.  
Post-abuse bodies may have survived, but some Brain tissue did not 
Justin?s Pre-show ritual is a strong expresso shot!

On Reflections, Simon said to Lol, ?Lol you?re very Zen.?
Lol reflected soberly, ?How weird it is to ken.?  
Proficiency is priority, you have to love yourself,
The secret door out of the maze - is the one that?s marked ?Good Health!?

Q: Was this the longest recording for Curious Creatures?
A: You bet your sweet bippy it was!

The pause is cool and beautiful and weird. 
And we may have a dinner date in San Diego!

In Awe of: ?Psycho? (1960) Directed by Alfred Hitchcock - Music: Bernard Herrmann. 

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He?s a reasonable Philatelist, Not an Apathetic Nihilist  
He?s a Dead Cross massive influence for The Locust,
He?s a Wild scene Iguana, No Tequila in Tijuana!
He just picked up the monitor and tore off his thumb

4 pm is an angry time for NIN to be on stage
The Opposite of Love Is Apathy, Not Nihilism or Rage  
When Lol saw the same back in 76 and 77  
He went down to his local pub to meet people already in Heaven.
Love on one hand and Hate on the other, Apathy doesn?t fit  
Punk to Drunk, Humanity can?t govern, What else to do with it?  
The Decline of Western civilization, Bill Grundy, and the Bromley Contingent
Second World War imagery, Notting Hill Gate carnival, Reaction for Attention.

Weird Energy, No guitar solos, Wire 12XU delivery!
Goth and double kicks, Robotic drumming and Gypsy Eyes thievery!
Succinct at 17, Eye-catching at 18, Noticed at 19, Twisted at 20.
Self-imposed boundaries, strange beats and Tones
We made sound into pop songs, We embraced our limitations  

What were your influences?
Skateboarding culture and Siouxsie Sioux, as a pioneer of gender equality for Justin.
Lol had Sylvia Plath to inform his thinking as a young man discovering how to play.
Female singers, and female musicians helped Budgie?s evolution.

How does it make you feel?
Boys Don?t Cry was a strange thing for Justin as a child.
Important to deal with toxic masculinity. 

Be ahead of yourself, say what?s wrong, do what?s right,
Female musicians still have to fight.
We remain Grateful for what happened on the planet
Just after Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play?

Remembering: ?Gypsy Eyes? Recorded: May ? August 1968 by, The Jimi Hendrix Experience

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Q:1 Anima Animus ? says, ?HAI!? 
and She asks,
Was anything Left un-released? 
Was anything Right un-released?

Q:2 Existential Edgar asks,
Will IT ever See the light of day - Probably not - No titles available.

Q:3 Thomas Jackson asks, (2 Presidents worth of questions!)
Is all Quiet on The Eastern Seaboard?
Has he really listened to every episode of Curious Creatures?

Q:4 How many Sips of tea in our Curious Creatures Mugs?

Q:5 Which songs turn up as B sides?

Q:6 ?Can you please speak my language?? From Paris with love and Vibraphones xxx
Hotel on fire or Smoke on the Seine?

Q:7 Yodel! Wonders is it,
Cannibal Roses or Coal Mind, rooting around in your brain?

Q:8 Do you ever Notice or think of, 

Q:9 Did you mean to do or was it that it just sounded great?!

Q:10 The Fickle Finger of Fate asks,
Are there any rules about creativity?

A: as Q: Are there any creative Rules?

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All the Burning Questions?.
Backwards chords and Arnold Layne? 
The Cure loved Captain Beefheart? 
Hippy music for The Dandys? 
But Not the Grateful Dead? 
From AC/DC to New Wave?

All the Questions that Burned?.
A Strange Trip? 
Wire and Elastica? 
Suede and Wire? 
Who?s Who?
Are Wire the New Cure?
Reinventing The Wheel?

And Burning the Questions?.
Unafraid to be Wrong? 
Genius or Gormless? 
Totally Wrong or Totally Right? 

And some Answers!
Springsteen plays everything 30 times then it?s ready! 
Lol takes 10 seconds to realize it was The Cure!
You have to be vulnerable as a musician! 
Socially Awkward makes the music work and Feel Cool! 
Acceptance is Key!

some now for something completely different?.
When everyone understands that We Need people that like T. Rex!
Finding the Tribe!
Seekers or the Tweekers?
Remembering Palookaville!  
Godless Video Passion!
Crossing bridges before they Burn!
Sweep it under the carpet it?ll be Alright! 
Down the street from the rusty pig 
An orchestra that listens to Tone Loc!

Oi... Pay Attention at The Back!
No Bad Behavior!
No Sex in the Hall!
No Back up Plan! 
No Leadership!

Remembering: ?Obscured by Clouds? Pink Floyd - Recorded 23 February - 6 April 1972

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The Dandy Warhols Pt. 1: Strip Club Janitor
Featuring:
Courtney Taylor-Taylor as Himself
And Peter Holmström as Himself

You?ll Never Believe it!
David Bowie meets Andy Warhol - it?s a Horror story!
Lol sees Stardust - it?s a Close Encounter!
Budgie, Robert and Bowie get personal on the phone!
Bob meets Dandy with a plan to takeover the World!
The Cure staring at the Pacific Ocean.
Robert and Severin?s blue cassette box Mystery.

It?s Out of This World!
Budgie and the Glass Spiders from Mars!  
The Creatures play Death Metal in Germany 
Budgie and Joe strummer and Birthday Bumps
Topper shares Magical Secrets with Budgie 
Courtney wears his mom?s blouse and dad?s pants Downtown 

It?s a True Story!
Courtney is TheStrip Club Janitor 
Courtney loves Budgies drumming on Spellbound!
Courtney digs drum trickery on Peek-a-Boo!
Prepare to meet the Derringer Reversal Phenomena! 
Courtney says Budgie is the most stylish drummer in history
Lol Agrees : Budgie Blushes - in Glorious Technicolor!!

It?s Beyond Reality!
Peter Reveals his BBC TV Straight Jacket!
Bohemian like you on Top of the pops a Global Sensation!
Robert Smith tells of The Perils of FAME!!
A Dozen Hits!!
It?s Cool and Artsy!!

It?s The Greatest Story Ever Told!
It?s Frequent Separations and Acute Hearing Loss!
It?s What it Is to be Cool at 4 years old!
It?s Radar love and Killer Queens!
It?s Gene Pitney and a Terrifying 24 hours from Tulsa!

It?s Your Wildest Dreams Come True!
It?s lyrical motivation for Lol and Courtney
Spooky Words by Larry Norman.
It?s ?A piece of bread could buy a bag of Gold? 
Budgie?s 3 Words for The Dandys - Honesty, Integrity and Trust  
Lol 3 Words for The Dandys - Very Cool Guys!

We Start a band and Lose Ourselves - Relationships, Boundaries and Rights - Give us a Different Manner - Pictures of us as Babies - Physical Reaction to Mental Pains - The Roles we take that Change Us. The Internet let Budgie recall His 120 mins of Silence The better He Looked - The worse He felt Inside - South America 1995 - Budgie At the top of his Endgame.

Freaky!

We see ourselves yet not recognize ourselves - See the Reality yet doubt its Truth! We were different people. Recognition of the Places we Came from - Equality Changes Perception. Lol Free of the Angst of the Past - The Truth will Set you Free - The Audience is Listening and Knows!

A Sheltered Life for Kevin - Fun being in the Gang - We?ll show them - When the band Stopped it was a Bolt from the Blue for Kevin - the Band defines you. We were all Court Jesters - Lol found the Spotlight became Destructive - The Court Jester becomes The Scapegoat - When you drive Out the Scapegoat - the Problems Remain.

We were rooting for Piggy in Lord of the Flies - King Lear and The Fool - Yin and Yang? A life out of Balance ? ?Les Enfants Terrible? - Jean Cocteau - Budgie as Bomb Disposal Specialist - Lol as The Minister keeping it Together - We are The Mental Family!

Kevin as Peacekeeper - Feels Memoir will set him Free - Writing it down is the Best Thing - Life?s not Just the journey it?s the Trip Man! Kevin as Film Composer - Fantastic stuff!

Dedicated to: Irwin Allen Ginsberg
(3 June 1926 ? 5 April 1997) 

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Working Men?s Clubs and US Airforce Bases
Drum Fills that We Never Forget.

Kevin?s Punk Bands Paid their Dues in Pubs. 
Sunday Lunchtime - Bauhaus Play to Happy Families.

The Cure had Competition in Neil Gaiman?s punk band  
Iggy Pop & Peter Murphy get Playful in NYC!

Budgie Hit the Anvil - Kevin Smells the Poppers - Lol Keeps his Head Down 
Lol lost his Eyebrows in a Studio Fireball.    

Steven Morris - a lovely Humble Chap.
Budgie talked while Steven planned the lights for the Blue Dot Jodrell Bank Dish  

Budgie and Kevin Deep in The Memoir.
When it Looks like a Book - Then its Real.

Discovering Life Within - Peace and Understanding  
Hearing a Great Record - Then Realizing it?s your Band!
A  Band that demands 110 % loyalty.

In memory of Ol? Blue Eyes.  (Frank ?The Crooner? Sinatra)
December 12, 1915 - May 14, 1998

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Budgie got his 1st rudiment from the film Zulu with Micheal Caine 
Flamming the spears on a shield
Lol's rudiments came from the library 
Not exactly Buddy Riche's but the flavor of
Lol's Triplets and Charlie Watts' hi-hat 
The harder you hit the drums the better the tone Budgie said .  
Lol just learnt the two hi-hat trick 
Budgie mimics the butterfly on a snare 
4/4 or 3/4 and Lol's fine
Reggae helped Budgie get his style 
Buddy had the wrong haircut trying to out drum Animal!
We learnt what we had to to play and made the rest up
Chad?s second time on CQ 
Austin has the best ramen or is it Piccadilly ?
Liam from Liverpool 
Budgie left and knew Reo Reason?
Bill Rieflin was Budgies pal, a true gentleman 
All drummers are friends 
Glad to help, thanks Tom.  
Goodnight sleep tight.

Dedicated to Charlie Watts:
2nd June 1941-24 August 2021

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What Letters have we got today? asks Lol with Soto Voice 
One from his brother with praise for Cured and parental tales of choice

Budgie became a member of many clubs, to get letters in the post, 
TV21 was always best with Gerry Anderson as host

Eugene Huffman loves the Podcast ? he was always a Banshees Boy. 
But the Creatures? Anima Animus has become his overwhelming Joy. 

The Banshees had a nucleus of Budgie, Sev and Sioux.
The Creatures merged electric with brass and woodwind too

Leonard Eto and Budgie recorded drums in a studio extraneous.
Hai! is solid evidence that the best stuff is spontaneous. 

Anima Animas began to feel like Banshees and Creatures combined 
Between France and New York City is where the two sounds realigned

The Relief of just being the Drummer, not having to manage the Band, 
Made Music an Adventure of Love once more ? Beauty from a grain of sand 

Lol and Budgie feel Relations Manifesting! 
Concentric Circles and Chemistry make Life more Interesting! 

Josephina - Jo, wants to know more, 
about teens that love The Banshees and The Cure.

Will S thought it would be weird and disturbed, 
if as teens we liked music that our parents preferred!

What relevance transforming from Teen to Maturity?
Is the language of Music still a Universal surety?

Modern Art began in 1912 - Marcel Duchamp playing chess.
How old was William Shakespeare - did he ever wear a dress?

Budgie ?has a thing? for Shawn the Sheep and Selling England by The Pound 
Lol ?still digs? The Lamb Lies Down and its Magical Mystical Punky Sound!

Keith from the Void asks about the ring of the Ludwig steel Black Beauty snare 
With longer sticks and a bigger kit would Andy Partridge even care?

Budgie met Phil Collins in a BBC TOTP Bathroom. 
Are we Surprised? Not really!

Decorum Came Later 

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The Menu:

Hors d?Ouvre:
Maestro Chef - John McGeoch
Great Guitarist?s Sleight of Hand Baffles Copyists!
Soup and Champers - The Ultimate Hangover Cure (see also Haggis etc)
Roadside Snack - Currywurst and Scotch Eggs!
Lol in Graceland - Everything is Elvis Crazy ?cept the Kitchen aka The Church  

Entrée:
Graceland is Small - The Plane Lisa Marie is Small - Was Elvis Myopic?  
One Pre-Show Drink - Could a Great Gig Make!  
Robert Smith - Does His Onstage Drinks Routine Reveal an OCD?

Dessert:
Lol Wonders if His Laundry is Done - Investigating Sylvia Plath?s College.  
MGT Recalls Nottingham Rock City - Budgie Recalls the Angels? Harley Davidsons.  
Pearl gets support with a Fever of 105F.  

Aperitif:
Is Beer Bad for Singers?  
The Secret Screen and Bucket? No, it?s not a Pub.  
Budgie recalls Rick Wakeman?s Curry in a Hurry and Siouxsie in his Bass Drum ? Nice?  
MGT remembers The Mission?s behind the Amps Bucket Routine.  

Digestif:
Pregnant Pause - The name of MGTs next band.  
Budgie - Back on The Road Again.  
Andy?s London Guitar Store.  
Bob and The Woolworth pick-ups  

Do a Runner:
Nah? Really?  
Punk or Wot? 

Miles wanted to be a trucker, zooming around the world.
Budgie and Lol always Up front with the bus driver. Miles was a drummer!
All drummers are friends and everyone that works on Curious Creatures is a drummer
Mark Gemini Thwaite aka MGT jams with Tricky and The Creatures and also played with Lol and The Curse for charity
Miles three favorite drummers Lol, Budgie and Pete de Freitas !
Miles stopped playing drums like Budgie and Lol - too exhausting !
Steve and his blog likes the violin  Miles says F*&K every sentence
Pop bullshit and fisticuffs.
Calvin and Budgie bashing the beats. Grey hair! Lol says we won?t tour in Steve City
Lol loved Pistols TV show Malcolm McLaren was spot on.
Band security tales: Nigel Welsh, bare knuckle boxer, kept the band apart
MGT, Tricky and ?Uncle Tony? British gangsters from the East End. Gentle German Micheal for the Cure
Motörhead lovely to to the Cure at the Reading Festival "here you go lads have some vodka!"
Hey, didn?t your bass player torch Sarah ?
Lol has writerly admiration for Miles and his 100,000 words
Miles inhabits the words right back in the day.  Budgie  & Lol can relate .
Absolutely Cathartic. Helps Miles go to a better space. Martin,  Rob and Miles The kids that had each others backs, back in the day.
You run so fast at the the start you need to explain it all  to yourself 
The primary purpose is taking care of each other a little more experience of life would be good thing 
Lol was on the fast road to nowhere. So he got off the train.
The Covid bench-MGT played for two!! Milos last record?
Budgie would be minted with Spellbound ! Get the vinyl soundtrack for Stranger Things!
Did you play Bomber ?

The Ace Of Spades:
Dedicated to Lemmy
24 December 1945 - 28 December 2015

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1st - a story about a teacher.

2nd - a magic ephemeral feeling.  

3rd - Music be the thread that weaves through time.

4th - There Was No Question - But We Found One  

5th - Lol, Robert and Micky D., loved their English teacher.

6th - Budgie performed Kes for the English class  

7th - Favourite Pub? The George for Lol - The War Room in ?Ye Cracke? for Budgie.

8th - Japanese Whispers - The Upstairs Room is Lol?s favourite, those beautiful London dawn mists.

9th - The gatefold poster of Lol and Robert - What?s not to Love?

10th - See Lol?s LGTB Costume in the Hall of Fame Museum. Lol?s Magician dress from The Walk?

11th - Tinderbox: London to Berlin. Favourite beat? ?Land?s End? - 50 ways to Kill your Lover?

12th - Surreal? Yes! Hindsight? Wonderful! Blessed to Here Where Truth is Stranger than Fiction.   

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Dedicated to: Pete Shelley (17 April 1955 ? 6 December 2018)
Ever Fallen In Love (With Someone You Shouldn?t?ve?)

The Curated '90s gave way to a Rebirth of Internet Rock ?n Roll - Myspace and Tumblr. 
Is Indie Sleaze a way of being performance-based with serious Gusto!?

T.V.O.D.
Live Energy. DIY bands. Punk Revisited. 
When an Online blog with Trashy Aesthetics were Off the wall.

M.I.A.
Olivia's mum and Budgie come from Liverpool!
Olivia Comes of Age in Toronto 2000 when Pot Heads Rule! 
Olivia?s Progress - University, Running a Radio show, Into Band Culture. 
A Pandemic Playlist. And VOILA! The Idea for Indie Sleaze ? Magically appears and No Pot!
Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs, on the TV and on the radio, Justice is Huge.
First it was Landfill, then Euro-Trash, then Indie sleaze. 
Music, Fashion, and Culture ? What more could you Want?

L.A.M.F.
Uber Sleaze FB Group. Sounds like 1970 - 1980?s NYC that Budgie and Lol Loved.
An Archive and Influence Source for Now Bands. 
A Vibrant Internet Community following where Brit-Pop DIY ethics Led - Just like Punk!!
Indie Sleaze, the New Punk Thrift, Stop of cool! Creativity without Restriction Rules! 

G.L.O.R.I.A.
Smashing The Glass ceiling for Female artists. 
When Karen O said ?No? to things she didn't feel comfortable with, it propelled her forward positively. Music is still the Lingua Franca between us all.

Another Music in a Different Kitchen!

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What Shall We Do with A Drunken Sailor? ? (Make them Clean the Carpets!)
It was 20 years ago today! Seven Year Itch at Coachella 2002.

Q.) Where did we leave our Hearts & Where do the Flowers Grow so Very High?
A.) San Francisco ? Fave Venues - The Warfield and The I-Beam 
Lol and Budgie wannabe Steve McQueen in What Film? 
The American Dream is our future and Billy idol uses Lol?s Optometrist  
The state of California is Budgie?s favourite venue!?! 
but who said, ?California is not a Place, it?s a State of Mind.?? 

Hong Kong Garden ? Big Toe Boots for Budgie ? for Bamboo Climbing and Drumming!
Lol wears them for Taiko in LA. But did he Play in Hong Kong?
Budgie and Kirk Douglas Dine together at the Holiday Inn Hong Kong.

Do The Cure and The Banshees Smell Like Teen Spirit? 
?Cor Baby, That?s Really Free!? says John Otway & Wild Willy Barret
?Hey Man, they?re really digging this stuff!? says Budgie 
Music is Universal and Communicates!

Elliot Ness and The Untouchables - an old recording to steal some magic from.
Raising an older brother?s records - time waits for no man  
My dad and Grandad love your music!
Who are Budgie and Lol? 
The Police & The Banshees? Surrey Sound Studios is now a Cricket shop! 
Is Budgie?s proudest recording moment, playing bass on The Slap of Leather on Willow or Tenant on Kaleidoscope? 
On which ?Short? titled recording did The Cure swap instruments? 

Where is Lol?s fave Recording Location in the South of France, Mirador, Mordor or Miraval? 
Blissful solitude until who, Sailed his yacht into Nice harbour? 
Who is the ?Tiny? link between, The Pope, The Cure in Orange and a Theatre in Nice! 
Lol Pirated which Captain?s boat and went for a Sail on the High Seas?
Captain Sensible, Captain Marvel, or Captain Bill?
Lol landed in Antibes and Simon Le Bon piped him aboard! 
Budgie Sings which Sea Shanty? (The Clue is in the Title) 

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THE EMOTIONAL CONNECTIONS ? (How Not To Be Alone)
The Red Hot Chili Peppers - Eddie Vedder - Pearl Jam - Morrisey - Dot Hacker and Pluralone

Does Josh Leave LA or Tour with Sparks? - Is This Town Not Big Enough?
Josh as Young and Lucky, Shy but Open to Saying, Yes ? I Can!
The Perils of Looping, Feeding the Squirrels and Answering the Telephone.
Is Josh Living Life in Reverse?
Josh and Budgie just wanted to say Hi to their Heroes / Josh Stays True to His Inner Child
Lol had a Hand in Josh?s Hall of Fame Induction
Josh Reveals His Potential as Kitchen Mouse Stalker!
He asks Himself, ?Who Are You?? / Should Josh disconnect his Phone?
Josh says, ?Have Belief in One?s Own Perception of The World - It?s A Life Worth Living.?
Will He Return for a Cup of Tea?
Josh says, ?I?ll Be Back?

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BEING RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW! ? (What it was like, what happened and what it?s like now.)
Budgie discovered the Chill Out Zone with Ben Juno Reactor.
Lol discovered his Brave New World post Cure.
How our Rolls have Changed. 

We simply have to have all the GEAR!! 
Football ? Squash ? Motorcycles or Bowling ? We Have to have the Correct Shoes!
Lol went Skiing, (Skiing not Surfing) Budgie played Golf.

Drumming is like riding a bicycle once you learn you never forget. 
Life Changed and Drums came to The Rescue.
Lol went back on the road with his book Cured ? Just like the Old days.
Hung out with Run DMC in New Orleans. 

We meet Again ? 30 Years Later to make Music.
?The Power of Love? thank you Holly Johnson.
We must love ourselves to receive love. 
What about our old Dysfunctional Families  ? The Cure and The Banshees.
Are we Historical or Histrionic?

Together we have made Beautiful Music ? Sweet, Sweet Music
Budgie is writing a Memoir and touring Europe with Hercules and Love Affair.
Lol has a new Book and together ? We plan to Tour and have Lots of FUN! 

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Early Prophets of Dark Deviant Magic & Voodoo 
(Siouxsie sings about sick serial killers and surveillance cameras.)

Lol introduces:
Nightshift as John McGeoch?s Finest hour.
Its Shimmering Tension - a Simmering Sizzling Juggernaut. 
If Budgie was forced to choose, Nightshift would be his finest hour too!

Lol says,
?Budgie reintroduced the ride cymbal back into the lexicon of drumming, without that ride cymbal it would be nothing! A sinister sexy cauldron swirling around.?
Budgie blushes and shares his admiration for Animal and Louis Bellson!

Budgie tells of,
The Banshees visiting The Cure recording Pornography at RAK London. 
The Cure kept a well-stocked bar for visiting minstrels and wastrels!
You?ll always find Drummers in the Kitchen at Parties.

Lol and Budgie say,
Juju and Pornography go together like a Cloak and Dagger.
Both recorded live in a big studio with no separation.
Juju songs played live before recording, just like a new band. 

John McGeoch said,
It?s more Hitchcock than Hammer Horror. 
More Blood dripping on a Daisy, than Fangs biting flesh.

Into The Light
John McGeoch used a gizmo with cog wheels to bow his guitar. 
Budgie develops Octopus limbs.

Lol says,
Bands after the Banshees didn?t have that tension. The drop and the twist is all. 
The push and pull gives the songs their strength. Juju is the sound of a band with a Coherent Narrative - they knew what they wanted. This version of The Banshees IS The Banshees. They Look and Sound like a real band with Authentic Chemistry.

Budgie says, 
Every day arriving to record at Surrey Sound Studios, felt like a sunny morning! 

Lol sums it Up,
To appreciate the lyrics, we don?t need to know all the details. 
Like a movie, the Best albums reflect the times and the Cultural Situation. 
Juju was ahead of its time.

Dedicated to: Louie Bellson (6 July 1924 ? 14 February 2009)

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And how it was that?.
Lol didn?t revere HIM until Low.
How HE was L?Homme Existential with the Hennaed hair .
Budgie remembers HIM making the duffel coat cool. 
HIS music and lyrics.
HIS harmonica on Low returns on Blackstar.

?What In The World??
Briny Eggs Wrapped in Offal downed with Halves of Beer down the pub!
(To be said very fast after drinking a yard of ale)

?Sound??
the Glam drummer from the Spiders and Woody Woodmansey?s U-Boat 
Panic in Detroit and Rebel Rebel, Sowing the Seeds of Punk.  
Glam rock it wasn?t just the Visuals 

?and Vision??
Budgie is reading Paul Morley?s Bible - The Age of Bowie.
1977 Bowie appears on Marc Bolan?s TV show. Bolan is still in Glam rags - HE has moved on
HE had reinvented himself - a pivotal point - Lol could understand HIM now
Bowie was accepted by the Punks and the New Romantics - HE synthesises Society and Culture 

?Always Crashing in The Same Car??
Budgies deems Nick Lowe?s spoof of Low - Unfunny!
Tony Visconti on The Secret Setting of the Eventide Harmonizer 
and the LOW snare drum sound, ?it fucks with the fabric of time!?
Bowie?s drum sticks handed over from Dennis Davis to Sterling Campbell 
LOW arrives as Lol and Budgie begin. Influenced by its tangents. WE never tire of listening to LOW. 
LOW gave us permission ? LOW stated there are no rules!

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Lol's orange punk jacket and pants from the thrift store and pointy boots. The album that went with this outfit was the Clash?s first album. The picture on the back of the album is the Notting Hill Gate carnival.

Lol is in it mentally and spiritually.  ?We?re a garage band, we come from Garageland.?

The Stranglers on the college juke box for Budgie. For Lol, it was white punks on dope on the college juke box.

Janie Jones was the track for Budgie on The Clash album. The lyrics were it for Budgie. The message was the thing for Budgie and Lol.

Lol's No Change jacket was his Clash clothes. Ian Curtis had a No Future jacket.

Lol danced with Jean Jaques and lived!

The Clash at Top Rank Bingo and the Leisure Center, a faceless new-brutalist building.

The tabloids bought the police to the gigs; Joe tried to calm the crowds and get off the PA!  Undercurrent of violence. Budgie met Paul Simonon steel brush hair and chiseled features. Attitude was key!

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In which they discuss: 
The Album at The Centre of The Banshees? Split! 

Budgie leaves Liverpool for London - finds fluorescent socks and The Artful Dodger aka Steve Strange. / London?s empty Apartments are a Network of Knowledge for Survival in Post-war Britain / Money was Scarce, Ideas were Plentiful.

Budgie?s management was Swingbest - The Sex Pistols management was Glitterbest / The London Scene was Exclusive - Budgie lands in its Centre as Drummer with The Slits Opening for The Clash on their ?Sort it Out? tour / Budgie watched Topper watched Budgie / Lol hears the Beginning of Budgie?s Style.

From Island Records? Jamaica Hub in London to Ridge Farm Recording Studio in Surrey, Cut begins on Passion Sunday, April 1st 1979 / Viv Albertine and Mick Jones are the Romeo and Juliet of Viv?s lyrics / No Punk Rock for Ari Up! / A 4 Week Emotional Roller Coaster but The Food was Amazing!

Budgie?s Trojan Records - Reggae Roots nurtured by Cut producer Dennis ?Blackbeard? Bovell / Blackbeard ?Moonlights? producing Linton Kwesi Johnson?s album ?Forces of Victory?, back to back with ?Cut? / Viv says, Budgie was an extraordinary man to find / Ari and Budgie connected with a Passion for Beats and Pulse / The Slits found Their Gang - started by original Drummer Palmolive / Budgie embraced the Spirit of Palmolive and found his Own / A Magic Time!

Dedicated to: Ariane Daniele Forster - Ari Up (17 January 1962 ? 20 October 2010)

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1981 The Stones turn up to see The Stray Cats in London!

Slim Jim meets Siouxsie and Budgie.

Lol sees The Cats strut their stuff at the Marquee.

They?re the greatest band in the world but, they have No name!

This is how they started

New Hair Cuts! Got all the Gear! Hello Blue Cats!

Any new haircut was cool.

Lot of cross-over in punk-era London.

Stray Cats - the most British, US new wave band on MTV.

They thought Terry Thomas and Ringo Starr would greet them at the airport in London.

Floors we have slept on! An 18-yr old Jennie Vee, made pilgrimage to London, took up bass and guitar and convinced John Peel she had a band.

The truth: There?s no band without a sick drummer!

Budgie did his 10,000 hours at Eric?s Club Liverpool. Budgie?s secret? he sings all his beats and sang himself to sleep to the Beatles. We All love Ringo getting inside the song and the pure joy of drumming. Drumming as a bloodsport!

Lol and Tony Kanal share a moment at The Greek with all Jim?s pals! Jennie Vee says, the greatest feeling is just to rock . Don?t do no crazy riff, just the joy of the moment is all.

The county clerk married Jennie and Jim on Zoom. We plan The big wedding party all star gig!

Lol was married in Vegas. Dick Smothers was next in the line. Budgie got married in Hong Kong.

Ronnie lane bumped into the Cats .Gave them the space in his house to be the band they became .. A hybrid of Punk & New Rockabilly. An emotional moment for Budgie . Still singing the songs. All roads lead to Eddie Cochran!

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A thread that pulls you through the years 

@rockhall-13 million people in 27 years!

Cleveland, Bowies' first us gig here, Jimi Hendrix, came back. Alan Freed coined the phrase rock and Roll.

I.M. Pei designed the museum building after he had seen The Who and Stones. Created a very energetic and emotional structure. The home of America's great art. Lol agrees that the design is suitable. The most relevant museum to people's lives The museum of the people. Lol sees his Let's Go To Bed outfit! In a case!  

The HOF was very emotional and blew Lols mind only 351 Bands in the HOF. Budgie knows the magic language of RnR. The hardest part is, it's such a big story from Punk, Patti Smith and Television. Lol and Budgie pledge to raise money for the new Post Punk annex "maybe it will be named after them, "Lols and Budgie Collection of Curious Creatures "( ?!) Lols brother still listens to John Lee Hooker. Budgie and Lol learned Blues on Sunday lunchtime at the pubs of England. The constant back and forth of the form is The engine. Budgie has the tip of Ringo's drumstick. Played an old banjo, and it became Budgies Excalibur sword!

Greg ran the Philadelphia record exchange. It's still going. The center of the place for our tribe. Even on the internet, record stores are a valuable items. Their connection with live music is vital still. Rock and Roll will never die! Fans know a lot, and they are reservoirs of memory . Post-punk is still loved. Budgies confesses he liked Glen Miller's "in the mood." Budgies knows there's no crying in baseball (only in music). Music condenses time. Get on stage, and you are ageless. Budgie and Lol are still here and thriving. Lols confesses his zombie love. It's all humbling and flattering at the same time. Budgie finds out Howling Wolf's guitar is in the HOF. Budgie recounts the sad story of Joe Strummer's guitar and sings the drums of Tommy Gunn! The jukebox in his head. 

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In this Episode Lol and Budgie continue our talk with: Zola Jesus with whom, we discuss:

Zola in LA - Seattle and Wisconsin / Sacred Bones and family.

A Spiritual Strength to ground you / Zola?s black metal box in the woods.

Lol imagines a desert commune / A post-punk Kibbutz / Budgie acknowledges strong women.

Zola battles the male power dynamic and the Dark Witch Goddess archetype

Women in music - is it getting better? / Zola and the balance of masculine-feminine traits.

Progress in the Present! / Is the record industry any better? / As Deviants, We Always find a Way! Budgie rediscovers Malaria and Berlin?s community / Zola is channelling Brian Eno & Bowie

So much Good music Then - So much Good music Now! / We are in a Transition period.

An Emotionally Fertile Ground for Art Exists Now!

Dedicated to: Ariane Daniele Forster - Ari Up (17 January 1962 ? 20 October 2010)

?ARKHON ? - New Zola Jesus Album May 20 via Sacred Bones
? Stick around and then we'll see ?

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Music is an all encompassing but insular process. A different air. Space and place is important . The Creatures played blind mans buff with a map of the world. The amazing three day New Years eve! Budgie bought Heinz baked beans and some drum sticks to Hawaii. A sense of occasion. To go outside of the normal experience. You have to grow by being put in a different environment and then responding. You need to unravel. Life is about risking things. Lol found Love in Los Angeles. Punk gave us a kick. People work more with references now rather than their own experience. Constant access to music from references that was made from an idiosyncratic place. No to curation, it's not life! Zola is in this for the music not the industry which does not reward innovation. More gradient less algorithm. Weightlifting to the Dead Kennedys.

She was a 6 year old opera singer. Resplendent in Red in Seattle like a zoo animal. Performing is a chance to let your ID go wild and lose control! Diamanda Galás as example. Budgie and Lol found our tribe in our youth. As did Zola growing up in Wisconsin in the woods. Feeling like an introverted outcast. Making music is like putting out the feelers to find people in common. That?s what music community is about. Music holds communal catharsis. We are in a period of transition - pandemic, politics, change is coming. We?re still hopeful after all these years!

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Strangers visiting were a different breed, an assault on our sensibilities. The people were real. It was candy, floss, toffee apples, and diesel. No internet, so no real connections/Lol had the library books and records, to develop a sense of discovery. Make a band and travel the world. Minor eccentrics would visit the workshop of humanity. A selection of institutional people that we interacted with. Mass murders at the fair? Extraordinary experiences then to the local pub. Lol had his ear pierced at sixteen, a rite of passage, bottles of cider in the park or on the couch. Budgie liked the waltzer. And the green caterpillar. Childhood images. Lol loved the ghost train too, banging doors.

Tales of the unknown. Peepshow Budgie recording the secret carousel, thrills of the unknown

Monsters under the bed and the hot water heater - Yikes! Country Road at night with fog is not scary. The old fighter pilot was buzzing about on a motorcycle. Run lads! Mists and tree lamps are melancholy, not frightening. Misty moors Dickens' Great Expectations and The Hound of the Baskervilles. Crucifix Lane, the London hospital, and Peter Sutcliffe and Dennis Nilsen OMG !!! Screaming and police whistles and tall black shadows with a cape. Isle of dogs and Melrose Avenue.

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First album takes three years and the next a millionth of the time

Did a new Specials album no Ska! Probably a new record coming, and Specials unplugged works great. All looking well! Lockdown produced covers of protest songs Terry has to have no distractions and go to Paris.

First tour since lockdown was fantastic. Lol remembers his first Specials show in 1979 at Bilzen Festival absolutely spectacular! It was the best show they ever did. Life changing! Utterly mental.

Lol learns backgammon. No Tour games for the Specials. Budgie played subbuteo with The Cult. Banshees played Clue and Yahtzee. The Cure played football and cricket inside the stadium. Bad idea.

The Specials weren?t mates. Two types of groups: mates from School (The Cure) and the guy with a master plan and cherry picked guys (The Specials) Class of 1979 the music was the common thread for the specials. Banshees had a ferocious kind of loyalty. Terry was a punk rocker in the squad

Burning Spear and Marley were the road in for Horace. Budgie remembers The Slits. He knew how to rehearse as did Lol three years for the Cure rehearsal no Christmas for the Smiths - the Cure are banging away in the woodshed.

Middle of the 70?s in England was full of discontent. Music was our salvation. Music is transcendental.

In 1977 Bowies Low and The Clash. Nick Drake miserable and beautiful. The way you get the music wrong is the way you get your own sound. the Skatellites told The Specials 'you play too fast". Garvey?s ghost/Burning Spear and Bob Marley live. Led Zeppelin scared the s*&% out of him.

Horace says he has very little to complain about. The Specials was a great way to see the art galleries of the world. When you're hot, you're hot then you spilt up. Why don?t you take a break? Lol likes being liberated at sixty.

It's mostly about relationships. We find out that The Specials would do any festival The Cure were on because we had a proper guitar tuner. Still best of mates all these years later!

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The A to Z of NYC / Armour wearing on Avenue C
Punk Rock style and Attitude / 70?s Commercial Radio v College Radio
When REM were Cool / when the NME reached N. Carolina
1991 Anarchy from the USA - The Yanks invade the UK
Superchunk played The Old Trout or was it, Windsor soup?
Post Punk-All bets are off / The Slits disregard all regardless
Our Emotional Reaction to Synthesizers / Peter Zinovieff?s ?A Lollipop for Papa? is Budgie?s first synth experiment / Love & Hate, The Osmond's?Crazy Horses? was well, crazy!

Curious Questions in which we discuss:
The Ups & Downs of collaborating with colourful and talented people.

Lol shares fond memories of Billy McKenzie / Budgie recalls being conducted by Thomas Dolby impersonating Magnus Pyke / Hey, hey, what?s that sound? / Is it Siouxsie?s knee, the rattling of skeletons, Caterpillar?s, butterfly wings or more leather pants?

Find out if it?s all a load of old Dickens, or just more Bollocks and Farts!

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Mac McCaughan
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Dedicated to: Peter Zinovieff (26 Jan 1933 - 23 June 2021) Founder of EMS, maker of the VCS3 Synthesiser.

Wild Loneliness 
Superchunk's new album was released Feb 22nd, on the band?s own Merge Records label
Lead track: Endless Summer - ?I?ll still make the coffee, and we still make the beds, and the kids are scarred but smarter

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Wild Loneliness 
Superchunk's new album was released Feb 22nd, on the band?s own Merge Records label
Lead track: Endless Summer - ?I?ll still make the coffee, and we still make the beds, and the kids are scarred but smarter

Dedicated to: Tony Allen (20 July 1940 ? 30 April 2020)
Fela Kuti / Afro Beat & Afro Funk

In this episode Lol and Budgie talk to: Joan Wasser

Joan as Violinist with a White Mohawk / Joan as The Driver in a V8 Ford Mustang

Joan and Budgie as Cyclists in their Cities / Lol & Budgie responsible for the Melancholy

Lol, Robert & Michael as Burglars in their school music room to make some noise!

The Cure had a Box of Words almost Lost in A Fire. (In Cairo?)

Joan with John Cale / Nico / Laurie Anderson / Cocteau Twins and The Velvet Underground

Writing for Whitney Houston / Channeling David Bowie with Tony Allen

Joan Reveals the Process and Depth of Emotion in Live Performance

Overcoming Fear, Anger and Angst / Joan as Changeling / Did we get that Currywurst?

Joan As Police Woman
?The Solution Is Restless ? (New Album with Tony Allen & Dave Okumu)
?How do you like it, how do you like it, how do you like it??

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We are chuffed to see the Bunnyman! Will just got off tour; it was 11 out of 10- weird!

People still like our band's music all these years later. Ancient history. It's just weird? Bugger all else to do so we plundered a lot of different music. Whats a wooly back? A sheep in wolf's clothing. Paul Rutherford in radical Pajamas. Band names had to be short to write on yer gasbag. Until Punk, music life was unobtainable, Punk said you don't need any of that. Will's book is a social history. It's Brilliant: Kirby = Crawley. Will explains the "Cure "photo in his book. Wills brother thought the Cure were the Bunnymen! We had identical suits, perhaps? MVCU, where Budgie was happy to spray the door. Boris makes a surprise appearance on the show! One night of madness in Crawley, like being in the trenches.

Will saw the Cure, Passions, and Associates in Liverpool Erics. All bands played Erics despite the beer swamp and low ceiling. It was a big deal when Budgie left Liverpool. Budgies gone, what are we going to do? Grist for the mill works.

The three survivors. There are plenty of casualties out there; Budgie, Lol, and Will discover that they have a Psychic commonality.

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The Cure?s first album, Three Imaginary Boys, released in 1979, was made into a compilation called Boys Don?t Cry for the American market in 1980.

Welcome to a slightly different format of Curious Creatures, in which Lol and Budgie discuss a specific topic in more detail.

In this first episode, Lol talks about Boys Don?t Cry and Cure manager Chris Parry?s penchant for not wearing socks, a naked drum sound, or playing the drums naked? Was it The Jam?s kit, or was it XTC?s?

Being Fearless and Full of Fear. Red light fever, two hands are faster than one!
The urgency of accuracy and the importance of serendipity in creativity.
And finally, for the secret of Fire in Cairo - Tune in on Tuesday!!

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Which silver screen superstar honed his comedic chops behind bars while doing time for slinging cocaine? Which movie mogul's home in the Hollywood hills played host to one of the most heinous and notorious crimes of the 1970s? And how did ONE movie franchise supposedly curse FOUR different actors, leading them each to an early grave?

Hear the unbelievable but true stories behind these questions and more in BADLANDS Season 3: Hollywoodland.

BADLANDS is a true-crime anthology podcast from Jake Brennan, creator and host of the award-winning music and true crime podcast DISGRACELAND.

BADLANDS Season 3: Hollywoodland is all about the dirty deeds of Tinseltown A-listers whose crimes and career lows were as unbelievable as some of their films' plot twists. Beginning February 16th, listen each week for wild stories about Robert Downey Jr., Gianni Versace, Sal Mineo, Tim Allen, Heath Ledger, Jack Nicholson, Brittany Murphy, the Poltergeist Curse, Robert Mitchum, and Elizabeth Short a/k/a The Black Dahlia.

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Lol and Budgie discuss[es] birthdays they have spent in the studio (Lol for 17 Seconds) or on the road having the bus party (Budgie). Everything closed in London at Christmas. We only got home just in time. Every day is Saturday in a band, even if it's Monday. Unless it's Boxing Day. We would be working every weekend. Hey, we signed up for it. We were the monks of music, leading a disciplined life, sort of! Budgie reveals a lovely Birthday gift he had made for Siouxsie and names the designer who made the beautiful blue shirt in his Wikipedia photo. But why was Lol wearing a pink dress?

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In which lol and Budgie discover why Lol won't eat leftovers.

They leave home and make Lobby Scouse and omelets. Alice Cooper and pressure cookers. Wasps and Bangers, baked potatoes, baked beans, and tea! 

It's necessary to have your own caterers on tour. Meeting other bands at a service station means-punk rock food fight! The Italians and Dutch have gourmet truck stops. Lol enjoys the flower bowls of Holland, while Budgie likes the comfortable, considerate seating in Tokyo eateries. The Greek restaurant in London was smashing. Literally!

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Kate comes to LA. We learn the drummers are driving the ship. Holistically in control of everything! Like Lol, Kate got her DL in California. NYC is okay when you're young but it's hard. Kate started to work in TV. Never thought she would end up in LA. You have to be open and willing to take risks. LA is a small town masquerading as a big city where you can wear big boots and coats even when you don't need too. Beach Goths! Kate and Lol discuss the Thomas guide and getting around LA in 20 mins. Kate knows about the knowledge! She did the artists way (like us) fell in love with someone in LA  and ended up working with Ellen DeGeneres after an LA lunch! Even despite her NYC  parking anxiety. Now she produces talk shows. Budgie asks Kate to critique us. We are walking the fine line and flowing - phew! Thanks for holding our hands, you cheeky thing! Drums are our communication. Telling the story. Never plain vanilla, we had a different approach. 

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We realize we are all drummers! Budgie makes a voodoo dolly of Siouxsie. We find out Kate's teen fantasy comes true when she replaces Clem Burke in Blondie! Kate reveals at 15 she blagged her way into the Ritz to interview the Banshees. Budgie let Kate sit behind his kit! She lets him know he's her favorite drummer!! Cheeky! Budgie and Lol and female drummers we have known. Her alter ego "Kate Nails, from The Face" got to see Culture club at the Palladium for free! A lucky life. Because of clubs and cool kids and the Beastie Boys. Concorde stories. The tailor on the plane in London measured you for your suit that was presented to you on arrival in Hong Kong! Mach 2! 

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Lol and Budgie play the Utah rodeo - a dust bowl of outsiders. The "Lush Lounge" provided libations as did the aptly named "Eat Your Heart Out" mixing up buckets of cocktails on the road. Budgie passed the drinks across the kit in Colorado. Lol had 23 shows in Australia and life seemed just like the Blues Brothers.  Sorry about the show! The banshees play the Whisky a Go Go - why are people wearing bin liners (trash bags) in the heat? Our second home was the USA..." it?s been the ruin of many a poor boy" and I, I know am one. 

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IT makes no sense, Budgie and Lol find out, if you don't like music because it's like not breathing! When you discover the passion and know what you want to do with your life is mostly a teen thing. Hard to find stuff is what makes you want to do it more the more obscure the better But don't try too hard to be different. You only need three chords and the truth is true even in skateboarding. You need a good crew whatever you do. Lol and Budgie discover there are a lot of similarities, for instance the stairwell is a creative place. The drums are definitely the drama in the songs with the lyric. Liberated cymbals! The goldmine that was Ray Man's store.

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In which Budgie and Lol discover they were a little scared of normal. We knew what we didn?t want to sound like, but loved the Ramones/the Clash/Bowie/Buzzcocks and T-Rex. Music was the future there were no niceties for us. A cup of tea and potato for two was it! Punk put different people in the spotlight, something was happening. Then the fairytale evaporated and they had to find out who they were.  You have to be destroyed in the fire to come out anew.  Budgie and Lol ricocheted around the world. The prodigal sons of post punk come home.

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