Hear Sal + Lena gush about their wedding experience. 

It was MAGICAL so you won't want to miss this one.

AND you get to hear the wives read their vows! 

Jillian Orr came out to her friends and family a few months before walking at Brigham Young University graduation. She knew she wanted to made stand and be a voice for the marganalized LGBTQ students. So she sewed a PRIDE flag into her gown and flashed it on stage for the world to see! 

Hear Jill tell everything that led to this moment, and how transformative this experience has been for her. 

Brock Aiken shares his experience of desperately trying to rid himself of his homosexulaity for decades. 

Raised in a Utah Mormon family, Brock was directed to a conversion therapy camp called Journey Into Manhood. 

Hear Brock share what finally led to his coming out and his journey to healing and self love. 

Sal's mom is here! Yay!!

Nan shares her experience with her children leaving the church. What was that like? How did she handle it? How did she maintain relationships with her kids? What would she do differently now? 

Don't miss this one! You'll want to share :)

Bradley Talbot is the one behind the lighting of the iconic Y in rainbow colors. The giant white cement Y on the mountainside in Provo, Utah represents Brigham Young University (a private school funded by the Mormon church). In honor of the LGBTQ students, who are discriminated against at the school, Brad created Color the Campus. The organization aims to help LGBTQ students feel more love, safety and belonging while they are attending BYU. 

Recently Brad organized and carried out a lighting demonstration, even after BYU put out a statement prohibiting it. This interview was recorded shortly before this event.  

Barrett Pall is a Jew-ish Queer Life Coach. 

Barrett is full of courage, wisdom and experience to share. He is an activist and spreads love and awareness to issues most don't want to face.

I can guarantee you will walk away feeling empowered after listening to this episode! 

Find him on instagram @barrettpall

Lena and I (Sal) break it down and talk about ways to process when these types of things happen. We hope you feel seen, heard, empowered and enlightened :)

Raised Mormon, assigned female at birth, B knew they didn't fit in from a young age. They knew they liked girls and not boys. B also knew their gender assignment didn't feel quite right.

B has an amazing story of heartache, resilience, courage and love. You're going to love them!

Insta @comingoutcoach

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Dawna Noble is Lena and Sal's relationship coach. And she's pretty damn cool.

Dawna knew she loved women as far back as elementary school. She was raised in a big Mormon family and being gay wasn't an option. 

Hear how she left the church, joined a different church, was celibate for 10 years, tried a 40 day fast to make her straight, asked to marry a pastor 20 years older than her.... and then finally leaving it all, coming out, getting married to woman, getting divorced and then becoming a relationship for LGBTQ couples. She's pretty rad. 

In this episode you'll hear about an amazing experience Doug had that led him to become who he is today. You will NOT see this once coming! You're going to love this conversation. 

Here's a few things to know about Doug:
- He wrote the new bestseller "Holy Shit, We're Alive,"
- He created an awesome app called the Daily Shifts.
- And he's a bad ass life coach. 

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Meet Laurel! 

Hear Laurel's story of growing up in a family of 10, how her Dad attempts to take on another wife, her confusing adolescence, her mission and life as a "Young Single Adult." She finally decides to make a BIG decision and that leads her to where she is now. Queer, agnostic, and happier than ever. Enjoy!! 

Instagram @comingoutcoach 

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Meet Laurel! 

Hear Laurel's story of growing up in a family of 10, how her Dad attempts to take on another wife, her confusing adolescence, her mission and life as a "Young Single Adult." She finally decides to make a BIG decision and that leads her to where she is now. Queer, agnostic, and happier than ever. Enjoy!! 

Instagram @comingoutcoach 

[email protected]

Sal and Lena were recently guests on the one and only Mormon Stories podcast! 

It was a 6.5 hour interview and they spilled the beans. 

Hear about what the experience was like for them, the response they've had from listeners, and what they left out! 

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Lena's in the hot seat!

Sal asks Lena a series of questions including:

-What's the best tip for keeping things smooth with your ex husband and co-parent?
-What were you like in high school?
-What do online friends say when they meet you in real life? 
-Why is inner child work so important and how are you an expert around this? 
-What do you love about co-hosting this podcast?
-What is your favorite outfit of Sal's? 

You're going to love Lena even more!

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Wendy VonSosen is the mother of Erik VonSosen, a beloved previous Peace Out guest (ep. 18).

Born and raised in the LDS church, Wendy was forced to look more closely at her beliefs when Erik (assigned male at birth) came out as gay, and later as transgender. Wendy has an amazing and inspiring story all parents need to hear!

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Lena puts Sal in the hot seat! Hear Sal answer these questions and more: 

What?s one question you wished more people asked you?

What?s the thing you love most about hosting this podcast?

What is your favorite way to spend a day off?

When was the last time you felt excited?

If you ended up in jail, what would your friends and family think you did?

If your life were a movie, what scene would you watch over and over?

What is something you like about yourself?

What is an area of your life where you feel something is missing?

What?s the best decision you?ve made in your life?  

How do we navigate parenting through aaaallll the things??

Devon shares his experience and insights around how he has been able to navigate these waters.

He shares how he's created beautiful relationships with his kids, and managed to keep a healthy co-parenting relationship with his ex wife (who is still a practicing Mormon). 

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Welcome back! Season 2 has begun and we're stoked.

In this episode Sal and Lena talk with Sam Young. Sam was a lifelong member of the Mormon church, he even served as bishop multiple times. When he learned from his daughters what types of sexual questions they were asked behind closed doors with male church leaders, he knew he had to do something. You are sure to be inspired by this story. And you're going to love this guy's energy! 

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Matt Easton came out in his valedictorian speech at BYU in 2019. His speech was pre-approved by his professors. He was met with love and support from many.

This week at BYU, Jeffery Holland, an apostle of the Mormon church, publicly condemned Matt, claiming he "commandeered the stage." Holland warned against supporting LGBTQ equality, which is contrary to the church's doctrine. 

Matt was raw, vulnerable, brave and authentic during our conversation. Show him your love! @itsmatty27 on insta

Sal and Lena are ending Season 1 with a discussion about spirituality. What are the differences of experiencing spirituality inside vs. outside religion? Come along the ride of their thoughts, feelings, and experiences with this universal and beautiful topic.

Be sure to catch a short guided meditation with Lena at the end of the episode. Namaste! 

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Sal and Lena are ending season 1 with a discussion about spirituality. What are the differences of experiencing spirituality inside vs. outside organized religion? Come along the ride of their thoughts, feelings and experiences with this beautiful topic. 

Be sure to catch a guided mediation with Lena and the end of the episode. Namaste! 

Instagram @comingoutcoach

Patreon.com/peaceoutpodcast

[email protected]

Chelsea Homer is a gatherer. She has created a support group online for women experiencing mixed faith marriages, or who are experiencing changes in their own faith. The group has over 5 thousand members, which speaks to the great need for this in the current climate of the LDS church. 

Chelsea shares her personal story, first in a mixed faith marriage, then later stepping away from the church herself. She's raw, vulnerable and helps others feel seen and heard through sharing her own grief and pain. Alongside her joy and fulfillment in her newfound inner authority and endless possibilities! 

Stacey Harkey is damn funny. But even cooler than that is that he's REAL. He's passionate about living an authentic life. When he finally realized that being gay actually ISN'T a problem with God, everything changed. 

Sal and Lena could not have had more fun chatting with Stacey. He has such a warm, fun, loving energy and he's also super insightful! Enjoy! 

Brian Spittler grew up checking all the Mormon boxes. Although he he liked girls, he noticed his attraction to boys early on. When he met his wife he fell hard, and was able to repress his bisexuality. But eventually he was ready to lean in and come out. Brian teaches us so much in this conversation! Enjoy.

Sal and Lena reflect on all they have learned from the amazing LGBTQ guests on Peace Out Podcast so far. 

Courage, resilience, integrity, belief, self love, strength, curiosity, self awareness, grace, and love...just to name a few.

Devon Gibby shares his experience growing up Mormon, seminary president, serving a mission, getting married in the temple, to discover just two weeks into his marriage he is gay! His story is real and it is powerful. Devon worked so hard to make his marriage work for his two sons. Ultimately, he decided living his truth out and proud would make him an even better father!

Devon is a single-dad sharing his life online @dadndaddies. We're so excited for you to hear this episode. 

Email Sal [email protected]

Or text 949.519.1228

Instagram @comingoutcoach

Sal and Lena dive into coming out. We talk about the levels of we went through to finally arrive at coming out of the closet.

Here are the levels of sexuality self discovery! 

Level 1: How do I really feel about sexuality?

Level 2: Getting curious and observing feelings

Level 3: Acceptance of what is

Level 4: Coming out and making moves

Sal and Lena were moved to tears witnessing the strength and beauty of Erik. She was raised in a loving, traditional Mormon family. She knew was different from the other boys from an early age. Hear Erik share her story of uncovering who she truly is and has always been. 

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Today we discuss a listener question: "Can one truly be an ally inside an institution that is not one?"

Sal and Lena dive in, flesh it out and by the end of our conversation we come to a pretty solid conclusion. Enjoy and tell us how you feel about it! 

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Sal's youngest brother Joe shares his story! At 22 years old, Joe has gained so much wisdom already. In this episode we discuss his experience growing up with the strict rules around "sexual purity" and how that effected his mental health and self worth. We talk about how Sal came out to him while he was serving an LDS mission and how that ultimately led him to take a hard look at the church. You will love Joe as much as we do! 

949-519-1228
Text your questions, thoughts, feelings, suggestions!

Venmo @comingoutcoach

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Sal and Lena talk about the ways we may not realize we are exhibiting homophobia. Let's learn together! 

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Text your questions, thoughts, feelings, suggestions!

We would love to hear from you! 

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Nathan Winterton has an incredible story to share. Raised in the heart of Mormon Utah, Nathan knew they liked boys since preschool. But they also knew it wasn't okay. Hear them share their experience through leaving their Mormon mission early, multiple forms of conversion therapy, a sucide attempt, to now living authentically as a beautiful non-binary human. 

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Instagram @comingoutcoach 

Facebook.com/peaceoutsal

Sal and Lena talk about their parenting journeys through divorce and blending families. Sal has two girls and a boy, and Lena has 4 boys! They range from aged 3 to 10 and they're pretty awesome. 

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Crystal is the special human who brought Sal and Lena together. When she met Lena, she intuitively knew that she needed to meet Sal. She has a beautiful story and she tells it so powerfully. Listen to her share her experience with shame around her sexuality within the LDS context and how she has arrived at a place of healing and self love. 

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Instagram @comingoutcoach 

Facebook.com/peaceoutsal

Sal and Lena talk self compassion. Can we still connect to the love, forgiveness and endless compassion we felt when we were full believers of the Christian faith? We think you can. Find out how we do it for ourselves. Love YOU! 

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In this episode Sal and Lena chat with the hilarous and charming Haley Faulkner. She is a social media content and community creater. Dry humor is her favorite flavor. 

Haley shares her story growing up in a Mormon family of 9 kids, how she realized she just might be gay, and how she's created a community of supportive people around her where she can be her authentic self. Enjoy! 

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Facebook.com/peaceoutsal

This is the first in a series of diving into spirituality after religion! In this episode Sal and Lena have rousing dicussion about their spiritual journeys post Mormonism. 

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TRIGGER WARNING - this episode contains topics including substance abuse and death. 

Brynne is Sal's childhood bestie. They grew up together in Idaho both in conservative Mormon families. Brynne tells her story of growing up in a familiy of 9 kids and how she has navigated being the one outspoken non-conformist of them all. She's pretty dope. Enjoy!  

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The other day at the store, the checker did a double take after calling Sal maam and asked if that's what she preferred to be called. That was a first! Lena and Sal talk about how the experience made Sal feel.

Hear why Sal and Lena are working toward a non-binary world. 

Claire Raymond was diagnosed with tethered cord syndrome at the age of 11. After countless surgeries, her health is stable and she has the gift of mobility with her wheel chair.

Claire more recently came out as queer at the age of 19. Now at age 22, she is an activist empowering young people to find thier strength and live their best lives, no matter their situation. 

You're going to love her!

Find Claire on instagram @livingwithclaireity 

How do you hold onto yourself and stay grounded when the world around you is telling you we might just be crazy? How do you live in light when the world feels dark? 

Sal and Lena talk about how they created a safe space for themselves and thier kids through a very tough time of trasition. 

Raised in the religious Deep South, Katie Crenshaw made a big move when recently came out as queer. She?s brave, unapologetic and just all around badass. 

She's a mom of 3, she wrote a best selling children?s book about body positivity called Her Body Can, she's a blogger, podcast host and activist. In 2016 her open letter to critics of her daughter?s facial birth mark went viral.

Something she said that hit me: ?when you lay it all out there, people can?t use your own truth against you and then you kind of just don?t care anymore.? When you own your truth the haters lose any power they have over you. ??

???#peaceout

Find her at www.katiecrenshaw.com and on instagram @katiemcrenshaw

What comes next? After that fateful night when Sal and Lena realize they have feelings for each other, things got heavy. Listen as they tell the stories of discovering their truths, coming out, and changing their entire lives. 

Lena tells the story of how she came into and eventually out of Mormonism, and then discovered she is a late blooming lesbian. It'll make you laugh, cry, and fall in love with Sally's beautiful fiance. Enjoy!

Meet Sal, your Peace Out host.

Listen to the very first episode where Sal tells her story of growing up Mormon, marrying young, starting a family, leaving her faith, and discovering her true sexuality. It's a big one guys! Thank you for being here.