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Why No One Can Look Away From Elizabeth Holmes
This week, there’s a new blockbuster Elizabeth Holmes documentary out, and we’ve assembled an expert panel to discuss the movie and what Holmes means to the tech world of today. Max Read is joined by John Carreyrou, who, through his investigative reporting for The Wall Street Journal and his book “Bad Blood,” revealed the fraud at the heart of Theranos; Erin Griffith, a tech reporter who extensively covered Holmes’s trail; and Caitlin Roper, the New York Times executive producer who wrote the first-ever magazine piece about Holmes for Wired back in 2013.
We end with a rundown of what else is happening in tech news this week.
Panelists:
Erin Griffith, a tech reporter for The New York Times.John Carreyrou, author of “Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup” and an investigative reporter for The New York Times’s business section.Caitlin Roper runs film, TV and books at The New York Times.Additional Reading:
‘You Can See Everything’ Review: The Slippery Mind of Elizabeth HolmesElizabeth Holmes’s Partner Has a New Blood-Testing Start-UpElizabeth Holmes to Transfer to Halfway House in August 2027F.B.I. Arrests OpenAI Employee Accused of Planting Bug in OfficeWe want to hear from you. Email us at [email protected]. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok.
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Anthropic’s Quest to Give A.I. Morals
This week, Max Read talks to the Times religion correspondent Elizabeth Dias, the tech reporter Erin Griffith and the opinion writer David Wallace-Wells about Anthropic’s private meetings with religious scholars on A.I. consciousness and how to make Claude “good,” its differences with the Vatican and the new belief systems taking shape in Silicon Valley.
Panelists:
Elizabeth Dias, national religion correspondent for The New York Times.Erin Griffith, a tech reporter for The New York Times.David Wallace-Wells, an opinion writer for The New York Times.Additional Reading:
Religious Scholars Met With Anthropic. What They Heard Stunned Them.What Would You Do If Your Employer Could Destroy the World? Exit interviews with defectors from OpenAI, Anthropic and DeepMind.I Quit OpenAI Because Its Culture Is BrokenWe want to hear from you. Email us at [email protected]. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok.
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