Steven and Ian begin this week's episode with some exciting news: Ian is writing a book (0:00)! Incredibly, it's an in-depth look at Childish Gambino's Camp. (Actually, it's about emo in the '90s.) Steven also presses Ian for his opinion on the new Black Country, New Road album, which he didn't bring up last week (4:30). From there, they do an extended lightning round on new singles from newly announced albums by Arcade Fire, Turnstile, Stereolab, and Pulp (15:17). Then they review the latest record by Bon Iver, which Steven likes more than Ian (45:53).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian discusses the latest from screamo band Record Setter while Steven stumps for the podcast The History Of Rock Music In 500 Songs (56:51).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 234 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven and Ian open this week's episode with a question: Was the first quarter of 2025 a little disappointing, in terms of album releases? Seems like it was (1:51). So why not look ahead to the second quarter? The guys go over new-release teases for music this week from a bevy of stars, including Wet Leg, Turnstile, and WU LYF (3:24). Then they do the Fantasy Albums Draft for the second quarter, discussing upcoming records from Lana Del Rey, Bon Iver, Billy Woods, Tunde Adebimpe, and more (26:01).

In the mailbag, they discuss the newly announced arena tour for Brand New, and whether the emo band has faced appropriate consequences for allegations against singer-songwriter Jesse Lacey (49:42).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up "Altered Zones"-core act OHYUNG while Steven stumps for the dreamy neo-grunge band Momma (with extra shouts to Craig Finn and The Waterboys) (1:04:30).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 233 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven and Ian kill some time at the start chatting about the return of Tobias Jesso Jr. (0:00) and Steven's recent list of the best 21st century indie-rock albums, which generated some buzz online (6:23). But they devote most of the episode discussing a full slate of new releases this week. First up is Lucy Dacus, who is back with a big new release on a major label. But is the album a major achievement (21:45)? After that, they do quick hits on new albums from Destroyer (38:23), Deafheaven (38:23), and Perfume Genius (48:21). Have any of these veteran acts put out new work that matches their best? They report, you decide!

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the new release from indie-emo band Palmyra and Steven stumps for country singer Charley Crockett (55:15).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 232 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven and Ian open this week's episode by noting the arrival of a new Kanye West album, and the difference between saying stupid things and doing criminal things (0:00). Then they transition to talking about the new album from Japanese Breakfast and whether it lives up to her previous work (14:27). They also talk about My Morning Jacket's career, and how their latest record fits with the overall catalog (32:39).

In the mailbag, they discuss the recent class-action lawsuit against Tool and the meaning of having a "unique" setlist (45:53).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the latest from Weatherday and Steven stumps for Dutch Interior (55:41).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 231 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven and Ian open this week's episode by addressing the confusing new slang about "reheating one's nachos" as a metaphor for revisiting a signature style, used this week in reference to the new Lady Gaga album [1:12]. They also talk about the new single from Haim, and what it portends for (presumably) their upcoming LP [15:01].

In the mailbag, they weigh possibilities of Indiecast merch [31:56] and spend a ton of time contemplating their ultimate indie-rock all-star band, picking a singer, bassist, guitarist, drummer, and producer [31:56].

In Recommendation Corner, Ian goes for the latest from British pop-rock outfit Courting and Steven stumps for the new album from North Carolina alt-country band Fust [52:41].

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 230 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven and Ian begin today's episode by celebrating the recent Oscar win for Daniel Blumberg, who picked up a trophy for scoring the The Brutalist, and his apparently disavowed past as the frontman for underrated early 2010s indie-rock band Yuck (1:24). The guys stay on the "Remember Some Guys" tip by noting this week's reunion news for The Beta Band, who will also be reissuing their beloved 1998 album The Three EPs (7:14).

After that they discuss the recent album announcement from Car Seat Headrest, their first in five years, and assess the current state of this late-2010s favorite (15:25). They also review the new Jason Isbell album out today, Foxes In The Snow (25:58).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the latest from Baths and Steven (in matters unrelated to personal hygiene) recommends the new album from The Tubs (59:19).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 229 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven and Ian begin with a quick Sportscast on the Green Bay Packers proposing a ban on the Philadelphia Eagles' signature play, the tush push, some truly tattletale behavior (1:16). They also check in on the Fantasy Albums Draft, which appears to be breaking Steven's way (6:28). From there, they discuss the new album from Sam Fender, People Talking (15:20), and whether The War On Drugs now function as their own genre. They also review the latest from the LA band Cheekface (30:53).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian gives the nod to the stoner emo band Cloakroom while Steven stumps for the new album from Panda Bear (56:04).

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Steven and Ian kick off with a brief conversation about the recent SNL50 celebration (0:00) and whether Sportscast will ever transition to NBA regular season talk (7:13). Then they transition to an update on the Fantasy Albums Draft, including a new album from The Murder Capital (11:42). After that, they discuss recent festival announcements like Summer Of 99 And Beyond, which features a cavalcade of post-grunge bands (15:24). Then they transition to a talk about recent music documentaries about Sly Stone and Luther Vandross (36:36).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the new album from Anxious and Steven reps for the singer-songwriter Sam Moss (58:01).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 227 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven and Ian begin this week by discussing their Valentine's Day plans and plotting a potential Love Is Blind-cast (0:00). Then Steven formally congratulates Ian on the Philadelphia Eagles' beatdown of the Kansas City Chiefs in the Super Bowl, and sort of makes amends for all of his Nick Sirianni slander (6:01). From there they break down the Super Bowl Halftime Show, and discuss the polarized reactions to Kendrick Lamar's performance (16:35). In the Fantasy Albums Draft update, they discuss new albums from Bartees Strange and Horsegirl (31:21). Finally, they wrap with an overview of the 2025 slate of Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame nominees (44:16).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian shouts out the Australian Skeleten and Steven stumps for a benefit EP from Big Thief (55:01).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 226 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven and Ian open with a quick recap of the Grammys, including takes on Cowboy Carter winning Album Of The Year, the Rolling Stones and the Beatles still getting awarded trophies in 2025 [3:14], and the potential star power and cringe factor of Doechii [7:34]. Then they look back at the history of Super Bowl halftime shows ahead of the big game this week [15:28]. They also look at two albums in the fantasy draft that are out this week [24:35], by the British post-punk band Squid and the veteran singer-songwriter Sharon Van Etten [32:47].

In the mailbag, they answer listening questions about the recent documentary directed by Questlove about musical guests on SNL [35:02]and the ethics of "name your price" shopping on Bandcamp [45:25].

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the emo band Head North and Steven shouts out the Chicago post-punk outfit FACS [50:46].

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 225 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven and Ian open with a discussion of a recent article about the shutdown of the Pitchfork Music Festival that gives new behind-the-scenes details on the situation and sheds light on the festival industry overall (0:35). Then they pivot to a quick Sportscast about Ian's team the Philadelphia Eagles making the Super Bowl and Steven's heel turn as a Kansas City Chiefs supporter (12:20). They also talk about two records in the Fantasy Albums Draft by FKA Twigs and Bonnie "Prince" Billy, and give their takes on the respective artists' careers (19:11). They also review the career of The Weeknd ahead of his new album out today, Hurry Up Tomorrow (29:07).

In the mailbag, they address a follow-up question on the comeback potential of disgraced emo band Brand New (46:33). Finally, in Recommendation Corner, Ian speaks up for Benjamin Booker and Steven goes for Rose City Band (59:46).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 224 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven and Ian open this week's episode by discussing recent controversies over Snoop Dogg and Nelly performing at Trump inauguration events [0:00]. Does anyone actually have the energy to care about this? They also do a quick Sportscast on Ian's team the Eagles being in the NFC Championship game [9:20], and check in on new albums by FKA Twigs and Benjamin Booker that are also on Ian's fantasy team. Then they dig into the music of 2015 -- the highs, the lows, the stuff they remember, the stuff they remember forgetting, and more [19:13].

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the new album from Mogwai while Steven recommends the latest from British guitarist James Blackshaw.

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 223 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven and Ian open with a discussion of the recent Robbie Williams' biopic Better Man, in which the British singer is portrayed by a CGI monkey (2:09). Shockingly, the movie didn't catch on at the box office. They also do a quick Sportscast on the Eagles beating the Packers (9:24), and an even quicker Politics-cast on the upcoming inauguration (17:03). Then, finally, they get down to talking about music, touching on the new Lucy Dacus album announcement (25:20), the Rilo Kiley reunion (37:58), and the re-release of the classic rock documentary Dig! (48:13).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the "nu-blog rock" band Lots Of Hands and Steven stumps for the singer-songwriter Todd Snider (57:42).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 222 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven and Ian begin with a quick Sportscast about their respective favorite NFL teams ? the Packers and the Eagles ? facing off in the playoffs in the weekend (3:23). They also review the (unlikeable) programs left in the College Football Playoffs (7:56). From there, they discuss the recent album announcement by Japanese Breakfast and whether they like her new single (14:29). They also look at the lineup for this year's Bonnaroo and whether it confirms Steven's suspicions about festivals being in a downturn (25:22). Then they review the latest release by Ethel Cain, Perverts, and whether it is deliberately aimed at alienating her more pop-minded fans (34:10).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the "Ozark Mountain emo" band Pomfret while Steven recommends the new solo record by Geese singer Cameron Winter (50:17).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 221 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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The boys are back! Steven and Ian catch up after the holiday break with a quick Sportscast about college football and the NFL [2:58]. Then they do their Fantasy Albums Draft for Q1 of 2025 and discussing upcoming records from FKA Twigs, The Weather Station, Ethel Cain, and more [18:45]. (Also, is it possible that Steven didn't win the Q4 2024 draft after all [15:18]?)

From there, they review their predictions for musical happenings in 2024 ? how accurate were they at anticipating the most hashable trends of last year [39:39]? Then they set about making predictions for the new year. Will this be the year that Sky Ferreira's album finally drops? Let's guess [46:17]!

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 220 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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It's the most wonderful time of the year! We're giving out our annual Indiecasties awards for 2024. Steven and Ian start with a brief conversation about the modern state of Spin magazine (0:00) and some big-picture thoughts on 2024, and then get about the business of giving out their trophies for the best and worst things of this year (9:40). Categories include: Most Valuable Annoying Music Story (15:59), Feel-Good Story Of The Year (23:27), Most 2024 Album Of 2024 (28:57), Most Memory-Holed Album (37:28), Best Musician Catastrophe (47:28), The Hyped Album That Was Actually Really Good (54:15), The Most Egregiously Overrated Album On Year-End Lists (59:57), and the year's MVP (1:06:50).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 219 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven and Ian begin this week's episode by recapping the new Yacht Rock documentary and Ian's Toto-related takeaways on the film that Steven worked on (0:00). Then they reflect on the week's deluge of year-end albums lists and they hash out the emerging trends, i.e. Brat is hot and Taylor Swift is not, and hip-hop is very chaotic (9:55). Finally, the guys dig into their own favorite albums of the year, sharing five choices each (25:44).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 218 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven and Ian open this week's episode with a quick (actually kind of long!) "yay or nay" segment on Thanksgiving food. Does anyone actually like turkey? Let's find out (3:30)! After a quick Plug-cast on the yacht rock doc that Steven worked on (14:32), the guys confirm that Steven finally won an Fantasy Albums Draft thanks to the latest Father John Misty record (16:30).

From there, they talk about the "surprise" Kendrick Lamar album that dropped last week, GNX, and what it means for the man's overall legacy (20:50). They also discuss the latest Coachella lineup and whether the festival is finally cooked (35:53). In the mailbag, they do an update on the "Dudes Rock!" QB conversation (48:51).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the new Tegan And Sara documentary and Steven recommends the latest record from Office Culture (53:57).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 217 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven and Ian begin this week's episode with some shocking news: It looks like Steven is going to win the Fantasy Albums Draft this quarter (1:57)! Big help comes courtesy of new albums out today from Michael Kiwanuka and Kim Deal of the Breeders, which have been very well reviewed. Then the guys talk about candidates for "Album Of The Year" according to critical consensus, including Charli XCX's Brat, Beyoncé's Cowboy Carter, MJ Lenderman's Manning Fireworks, and Cindy Lee's Diamond Jubilee (13:00). Then they dive into the new album from Father John Misty, Mahashmashana, and how it compares to his previous records (32:25).

In the mailbag, the guys address one of their all-time best questions: Who is the most "dudes rock" quarterback of all time (45:24)?

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the Philly indie band 22° Halo while Steven stumps for the cult singer-songwriter Lee Baggett (56:11).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 216 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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This week, the guys recorded Indiecast a few days early, so they apologize in advance for missing any potential indie news. Steven was off to NYC for the film festival premiere of Yacht Rock: A Dockumentary ? which he worked on as story producer ? ahead of streaming on HBO/Max on November 29 (2:24). After a brief conversation about yacht rock, the guys talk about the exodus on social media to Bluesky and how the new-ish app feels like a Christian rock alternative to X/Twitter (10:09).

Then they hash out an unfortunate trend: The end of Pitchfork Fest. They share memories of the festival and discuss how it was like a convention for music writers (17:57). From there, they review the recent Grammy nominations, some truly weird picks for Best New Artist, and some surprisingly good picks for Best Alternative Album (30:40). Finally, they discuss the meteoric rise of the indie-adjacent singer-songwriter Mk.gee and whether it annoys Alex G (43:00).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the Chicago emo band Bottom Bracket and Steven recommends the LA post-punk quartet Bondo (53:52).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 215 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven and Ian begin this week's episode by reflecting on this week's election (0:57). Steven just woke up from a week-long coma and he asked Ian to tell him who won. After they, delve into a less depressing topic: The music of The Cure! They talk about their strong new album, Songs Of A Lost World, and where it fits in the band's career. Then they talk about the best Cure albums, and also rank their top five Cure songs (16:02).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the new Connor O'Malley comedy Rap World while Steven recommends the Jason Molina biography, Riding With The Ghost (51:58).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 214 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven and Ian open today's episode with a quick Sportscast about the World Series and the Yankees fan who almost ripped Mookie Betts' arm off. Bad fans is actually an overarching theme of the show ? the guys start with the upcoming election, and whether we're headed for a wave of anti-PC entertainment if Trump wins. Then they address this week's music-critic controversy involving a bad review of the new Halsey album, and the predictable freakout from chronically online fans.

After that, they check in on the Fantasy Albums Draft and talk about the latest from Mount Eerie as well as Phil Elverum's career with The Microphones. Then they do a "Scene Report" segment on recent concerts by Knocked Loose and Drive-By Truckers.

In the mailbag, the guys are asked about "time and place" bands, i.e. acts that were set up to make one perfect album and nothing else. Finally, in Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the emo band Ben Quad while Steven endorses Philly power band 2nd Grade.

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 213 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven and Ian open this week's episode with some Halloween discourse, which unexpectedly dips into some Kindergarten Cop discourse (1:43). Then they turn to the Fantasy Albums Draft (11:23), which includes two new releases on Steven's team, Soccer Mommy's Evergreen (15:45) and Laura Marling's Patterns In Repeat. They also talk about the careers of both artists, and the state of 2010s era singer-songwriters in the mid-2020s. They also discuss the upcoming Tyler The Creator record, which drops on Monday, and the benefits of putting out music during the week rather than right before the weekend (24:01). From there, they talk about the recent Bon Iver EP Sable, which is the most straightforward music he's ever made, and his influence on contemporary artists (32:58).

In the mailbag, they address a listener question about cover songs. How many is too many? Does Vampire Weekend tip into "too many territory" on their current tour (42:22)?

In Recommendation Corner, Ian stumps for electronic artist Kelly Lee Owens and Steven talks up the Nashville trio Styrofoam Winos (48:52).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 212 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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This week's episode begins with a quick Sportscast on some of the biggest buffoons in sports, who happen to work in Philadelphia and New York (1:34). From there, Steven and Ian talk about the final album from Japandroids, Fate And Alcohol, and how it gives their career closure (9:30). Then they discuss two recent critically acclaimed metal albums from Blood Incantation and Chat Pile, and how the genre has evolved in the past decade (26:05).

In the mailbag, a listener fact-checks Steven's recent rant about sports stadiums in Milwaukee (41:30). They also address an email about "slow burn" album openers on recent LPs by MJ Lenderman and Waxahatchee, and whether they set a good tone or are simply boring (45:20).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the latest from Touche Amoré and Steven recommends the new album from Tim Heidecker (51:00).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 211 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven welcomes Ian back to America after his trip to London. Ian regales us with tales of fish and chips-eating and musicals-watching (3:38), and then Steven lurches into a quick Sportscast about annoying NFL teams from New York City (5:33). (Sorry, New Jersey!) The guys also discuss their plans to see Foxing (Ian) and MJ Lenderman (Steven) this weekend (13:35), and the latest status of Ian's Fantasy Albums Draft (20:10).

In the mailbag, the guys answer questions about the current state of Bandcamp (26:51), the best musical guests on The Simpsons (33:00), the best decade for music (38:48), and the artists the guys can't believe they haven't seen live yet (47:00).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian stumps for veteran singer-songwriter Fred Thomas and Steven recommends the latest from the shape-shifting LA band Peel Dream Magazine (55:06).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 210 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Steven and Ian begin this week's episode by discussing Ian's upcoming trip to London, which is quickly interrupted by a quick rant by Steven about the (improving!) state of tour T-shirts (4:06). Then the guys commence a conversation about Pitchfork's recent list of the best albums of the 2020s, and what some notable exclusions and slights say about the changing critical narrative for the decade (12:23). After that, they take stock of a big release day for albums and review the latest from Wild Pink (30:59), former Black Midi frontman Geordie Greep (37:12), and the new supergroup The Hard Quartet fronted by Stephen Malkmus (45:41).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the emo band Ceres and Steven reps for the fine indie-heartland rock group Trace Mountains (51:04).

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Steven and Ian begin this week's episode with the first ever "Furnace-cast" about the current state of Steven's heating and cooling units at his house. Both were being installed during this episode, which might have resulted in some post-punk-style background noise. What's more indie rock than that? After a quick Sportscast about the latest from Steven's Green Bay Packers and Ian's Philadelphia Eagles, they hold their Fantasy Albums Draft for Q4 (15:22). Will Steven finally win one of these? Probably not! But who knows?

Then the guys delve into the mailbag to answer some quality emails. Topics include the sad state of music festivals in 2024 (31:55), the relative quality of music put out in 2014 (41:05), and whether it's possible to have a good song with good music and bad lyrics (yes!) or bad music and good lyrics (maybe?) (50:17).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian stumps for a divorce record by Adeline Hotel and Steven goes for the latest from bluegrass phenom Billy Strings (56:40).

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Steven and Ian begin today's episode by reacting to the recent Sean "Diddy" Combs news (1:22), and speculate on whether Get Him To The Greek is the most cancelable movie of all time. From there, they talk about the Father John Misty album announcement, and muse about the Pure Comedy album cycle (8:22). Steven then brings up Ian's great recent profile of Japandroids, which digs deep into the personal backstory of the band ahead of their farewell album (19:07).

They also talk about Bright Eyes upon the release of their album, Five Dice, All Threes, and some troubling viral concert moments (30:10). Speaking of viral concert moments, the guys also dig into the recent reunion craziness involving Jane's Addiction and The Smiths (38:30).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the New Zealand emo band Yon Loader and Steven stumps for the latest from Nilüfer Yanya (51:34)

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Steven and Ian open today's episode with some jokes (and some empathy!) directed at Dave Grohl. The president of rock is down this week, but the guys are not going to kick him. Steven then laments the state of the Green Bay Packers in a quick Sportscast, and the guys marvel at the unintentional comedy of Donald Trump in Politicscast. Steven gets really depressed during the Fantasy Albums Draft update, but then things perk up when they address the recent controversy about Linkin Park's new singer and the overall "yay or nay" status of the popular nu-metal band. The guys also review new albums by "indie sleaze" artists The Dare and Fcukers, which brings out the "Danny Glover in Lethal Weapon" side of Steven.

In the mailbag, a listener asks if there is an American band whose reunion would engender as much hysteria as the Oasis reunion in England. (The answer is: Nirvana, maybe, if Kurt Cobain faked his own death.)

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the new album by Foxing while Steven stumps for the latest live record by The War On Drugs.

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Steven begins today's episode by apologizing to Ian and the Sum 41 fan community for his recent disrespectful comments on the pod -- new information has come to light that made him rethink his snarkiness (0:58). Then there is a short Sportscast about the new NFL season (4:25), and more despair from Steven about the state of his fantasy albums draft team (12:08).

The guys then pivot to the new MJ Lenderman album out today, Manning Fireworks. It's Steven's favorite record of the year, and Ian likes it, too, though not as much (15:06). Steven also recounts seeing King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard live for the first time this week, which made clear just how huge that band is (28:02).

In the mailbag, they address emails about the worst contracts in music history (38:29) and whether they "yay or nay" the band Girls (47:42).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the emo band Floral Tattoo while Steven stumps for a new book by The Hold Steady's Franz Nicolay (56:23).

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Steven and Ian begin this week's episode by talking about a big potential reunion in the rock world. Of course we're referring to... TV On The Radio! The band appears to be teasing something right now, which the guys assume is probably their first concert dates in five years (1:38). After that, they of course talk about the return of Oasis. Steven is very pumped, but will he actually pay through the nose to see them in Europe (7:06)? Maybe he will to take his mind off the disastrous state of his Fantasy Album Draft team. It looks like Ian is on the way to yet another easy victory this quarter (22:07). The guys then transition to a conversation about Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds, who release a new album, Wild God, today. Steven is yay on Cave, but what about Ian (29:57)?

In the mailbag, a listener asks about the phenomenon of "rawdogging" on airplanes and whether the guys ever listen to music without doing anything else (40:00). Then they answer an email about whether they like prog rock, and Steven gives a very detailed answer (47:17).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the UK act Seefeel and Steven goes for veteran singer-songwriter Ray LaMontagne (56:22).

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Steven and Ian open this week's episode by talking about pontoon boats -- Steven was on one this week, and he listened to Steve Winwood's "Back In The High Life Again" on a loop. Ian shares his own pontoon story about someone named Uncle Zippy (2:05). After a brief look at the Fantasy Albums Draft (5:05) -- Steven has records from Sabrina Carpenter, The Spirit Of The Beehive, and Illuminati Hotties out this week -- they talk about a recent article charting the pop culture events of the Obamacore era. Steven asks Ian for his take on artists like Tune-Yards, Chance The Rapper, and Run The Jewels -- are they Obamacore? What is Obamacore, anyway (14:47)?

After that, they talk about Romance, the new album from Irish rock band Fontaines DC. Is this the record that finally gets the guys on board with a band they are otherwise indifferent about? (It is for one of them!) (36:10). In the mailbag, a listener corrects some misinformation about a recent Ween concert (46:35). Steven and Ian also answer an email about driving long distances to concerts when you live in a small town. (They also discover the Canadian hardcore band Dayglo Abortions, for better or worse.) (48:39)

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the latest from Magdalena Bay while Steven stumps for BBsitters Club (56:38).

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Steven and Ian begin today's episode with a review of Phoenix's performance at the Olympics last weekend, and the maddening idea that every band from the aughts is now being lumped into the made-up phenomenon known as "indie sleaze" (1:09). From there, they move on to the news that the proggy British post-punk band Black Midi has apparently broken up. The guys discuss their brief career and the surprisingly wide influence they have had on other acts (13:38).

Then they talk about Wishy, the Indiana-based shoegaze outfit that has emerged as one of 2024's most hyped young bands. Their debut full-length, Triple Seven, is out today, and Steven loves it while Ian is more reserved in his judgement (24:49). After that, they move on to discussion about Ween, who Steven wrote about this week. He wonders whether Ian has a "yay or nay" assessment of the cult duo (39:15). In the mailbag, a listener asks about the strangest place the guys have either seen a show, and Steven talks about seeing the '90s rap group Onyx and Fleetwood Mac's Lindsey Buckingham at two different high schools (47:01).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the playful pop of Porter Robinson while Steven stumps for the Georgia rock band Futurebirds (53:26).

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Steven and Ian open this week's episode with a quick Politics-cast about Tim Walz, the VP candidate whose life resembles a middle-aged man's version of a Hold Steady song (2:05). From there, they discuss a range of not-quite-indie topics ? the retirement of Aerosmith from the road (15:30), the explosion of Chappell Roan (24:33), and whether John Mayer's "Daughters" is the worst song ever written (as suggested by St. Vincent) (34:37).

In the mailbag, a reader asks for advice on which upcoming show he should see, and the guys instead end up talking about the ethics of selling a birthday present bought by your wife (48:25).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the latest from Parannoul and Steven reps the new album by Oso Oso (54:53).

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Today's episode begins with Steven and Ian dipping into Sportscast discourse about the Olympics and Jordan Love's recent historic NFL contract (2:20). After that, they delve into the week's new releases, which include a Smashing Pumpkins album not even Steven and Ian care about (11:25) and an Ian fantasy draft pick that might have been a reach. They also talk about the recently announced American Football tribute album (17:42), and Steven's experience seeing Vampire Weekend live this week (21:23).

In the mailbag, the guys answer questions about the validity of predetermined "farewell" albums (33:40) and their feelings about Father John Misty's Pure Comedy in light of a new greatest hits album for FJM (40:30).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian goes the Swedish emo band I Love Your Style while Steven talks about retro country singer Charley Crockett (52:04).

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Today's episode begins with an extended rant from Steven about a big pet peeve: The conflation of music taste with personal morality and/or ideology. This came up multiple times this week, first with Charli XCX's apparent endorsement of Kamala Harris and the deep investigation into JD Vance's Spotify playlists (2:17). After Steven's rant, Ian shares his review of EA Sports College Football 25 and how it might impact his music writing career (17:40).

The guys then talk about new albums from Jack White and Childish Gambino, and the diverging paths both artists are taking in 2024 (22:20). They also discuss two records that turned 10 this week, Joyce Manor's Never Hungover Again and Alvvays' Alvvays, and the value of song power over short-term cultural relevancy (35:45). In the mailbag, a listener asks Steven and Ian to recount their biggest musical disagreements (45:40).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the latest from Ben Seratan and Sinai Vessel while Steven stumps for Wand and American Aquarium (54:45).

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Steven and Ian begin today's episode by reflecting on what they were doing when you-know-what happened last weekend. Then they get down to what is truly the biggest news of the week: The release of EA College Football 25, which is about to become Ian's obsession (6:00). After Video Game-cast, they pivot to a discussion about Tenacious D and their implosion over Kyle Gass' Trump comments in Australia (12:00). They also yay-or-nay the comedy-rock trio, from the perspective of another comedy-rock trio.

From there, they tackle the return of Japandroids, who will release their first album in seven years, Fate And Alcohol, in October. But can they ever top Celebration Rock (20:01)? Steven also fills Ian on some jam band beef this week between Trey Anastasio and Dead & Company (28:08). In the mailbag, they answer a listener question about whether '90s-style "weird for weirdness' sake" music is still being made, with a tangent about the legacy of Tom Waits (40:35).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the British emo band Los Campesinos! while Steven stumps for the rising country artist Zach Top (53:50).

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Today is a very packed day for album releases, ranging from acclaimed indie acts (Clairo! Cassandra Jenkins! ) (34:00) to the opposite of acclaimed indie acts (a new Eric Clapton live album!) (10:15). Steven and Ian looked at the slate and decided to play FMK (2:00), touching on albums from Cigarettes After Sex (19:50), Eminem (17:00), Sturgill Simpson (23:15), Phish (8:00), Travis (12:00), and more. Steven also asked Ian for his thoughts on the recent Zach Bryan LP, and finds that Ian isn't really on board (26:15).

In the mailbag, they answer a question about whether there are "Joe Biden-esque bands" that need to retire (38:30), and then they delve deep into amorphous concept known as Odelay-core (46:55).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the power pop band Macseal and Steven stumps for Detroit singer-songwriter Conor Lynch (53:40).

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Steven and Ian are true patriots, and they pay tribute to the ol' U.S. of A at the start of this week's episode by picking some of their favorite patio music albums of 2024 so far, as well as their picks for the greatest patio album of all time (2:29). This is the music you'll want to rock at your July 4th weekend gathering. From there, they do a quick TVcast about the controversial third season of The Bear, which Steven defends and Ian mostly dismisses (7:58). Then they get into their latest Fantasy Albums Draft, which draws on upcoming releases from July to September. Can Steven finally win one of these, or will Ian take his fourth consecutive title (20:00)?

In the mailbag, they address a listener question about Hate To Love, a new Netflix documentary about Nickelback, and they also give their yay-or-nay verdicts on the polarizing post-grunge band (51:10).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian goes for the singer-songwriter project Growing Stone while Steven stumps for the Minneapolis rock band Ahem (1:04:45).

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Steven and Ian begin today's episode by reflecting on the short-lived beef between Dave Grohl and Taylor Swift, which was initiated by a dad joke told on stage by the former about the latter (0:26). The guys also discuss the new album announcement from MJ Lenderman, and Steven tries not to be too annoying about what will likely be one of his favorite albums of the year (7:47). Then they take a hard pivot to talking about the life and passing of Crazy Town singer Shifty Shellshock (16:00) before revisiting (and resolving) last week's Donutgate in the mailbag (21:12).

Finally, they get down to naming their favorite albums of 2024 so far (24:22). Each guy picked five albums, and there were no repeats. Will one of your faves be among the ten selected? Will you disagree vehemently with the choices? There's only one way to find out!

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Today's episode begins with Steven confronting Ian over a difficult subject: The big plate of donuts that Ian stole from Steven at his book event in Los Angeles last week (0:25). Will the guys be able to get past this? Yes, they will. But not before some serious donut shaming! After resolving the donut issue, they briefly discuss Steven's plans to see the Pixies, Modest Mouse, and Cat Power on the same bill, and the Pixies' weird status post-reunion in the 21st century (8:59).

After that, they finally get down to the task of handing out their mid-year Indiecasties (16:41). Categories include: Most Valuable Album Cycle (18:13), Most Memory-Holed Album (25:19), Most Annoying Music Writer Story (32:53), Most Fun Music Writer Story (39:58), and Most Overrated Album (47:02). Remember: Everybody is a winner at the Indiecasties. It's an honor just to be nominated!

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the new album from Annabel while Steven raves about the latest from This Is Lorelei (53:29).

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Steven is on the road this week doing book promotion and other fun things, so it seemed like a perfect time for he and Ian to answer some listener emails. As always, our listeners stepped up with some amazing topics this week.

First, the guys talk about the recent Sufjan Stevens Illinois musical and discuss other albums that might warrant the adaptation treatment (7:44). Second, they talk about the best three-year period in modern music history and why it's (probably) 2000-02 (16:01). Third, they revisit Car Seat Headrest's 2020 album Making A Door Less Open and whether it's the biggest drop-off from an acclaimed predecessor (25:22). Fourth, they talk about the run of recent jangle pop and shoegaze albums and whether it's possible for homages to be better than the originals (35:34). Finally, they discuss their favorite recent music books, and the overall state of the 33 1/3 series (44:46).

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After a brief Sportscast on the media meltdown over Caitlin Clark?s early stint in the WNBA (0:30), Steven and Ian have perhaps the least likely conversation in Indiecast history about Ian going to a Sarah McLachlan concert (!) and seeing a fight almost break out (!!) (7:21). They also talk about Steven?s upcoming book event on June 11 at Book Soup in LA that Ian is hosting (19:25).

From there, they talk about the new album from Texas band Good Looks, Lived Here For A While, which is one of 2024?s best indie rock records along with being one of the easiest to root for (22:54). They also talk about Brat, the new album by Charli XCX, as well as a larger conversation about how ?indie pop? became known as ?middle class pop? (32:54). Finally, they conclude with a discussion of The Killers? Hot Fuss, which turns 20 this week (42:51).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the emo band Southtowne Lanes while Steven recommends the Indianapolis band Everything, Now! (53:47).

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This week's episode begins with Steven talking about his visit to Brooklyn as part of the promotional tour for his new book, There Was Nothing You Could Do: Bruce Springsteen's "Born In The U.S.A." And The End Of The Heartland (7:15). They also commence a quick Sportscast to talk about the state of jinxes and reverse-jinxes concerning the Minnesota Timberwolves (10:59).

From there, they talk about how the Black Keys announced a change in tour plans from playing arenas to more "intimate" venues in light of weak ticket sales. Is this a sign of bigger changes in the live concert business (20:26)? They also discuss a recent article about the so-called "end of merch" and their respective feelings about band t-shirts (34:13). (Ian is indifferent, Steven has passionate opinions.) Then they address the recent soundtrack to the 2024 cult film I Saw The TV Glow, and how the album comments on the glory days of movie soundtracks from the 1990s (47:40).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the latest release from shoegaze band Draag while Steven stumps for a box set from The Waterboys documenting the making of an '80s alternative classic (57:36).

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Steven and Ian open this week's episode by recapping Ian's epic technical fail that canceled last week's episode (0:26). They also revisit last week's lost Kings Of Leon conversation and this year's wealth of memory-holed albums (2:43). Finally, Steven expresses gratitude that his Sportscast rant about jinxing the Timberwolves in the lost episode never aired (9:41).

Then the guys address Apple Music's list of the 100 Best Albums, which prompted a lot of conversation this week (20:34). For instance: Is 1989 (Taylor's Version) really the 18th best album of all time? Steven forwards the idea that 60 years might be too wide of a time span for one list when it comes to assessing music. From there, they review the new album by DIIV, Frog In Boiling Water, which Steven might like more than Ian (38:29).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian hypes up the latest from Young Jesus while Steven stumps for From Indian Lakes (56:17).

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A short explanation from Steve about why there's no episode this week.

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Steven and Ian begin today's episode with a quick recap of the seemingly on-pause rap battle between Kendrick Lamar and Drake (0:25), as well as a Sportscast segment on Steven's bandwagon-jumping with the Minnesota Timberwolves (3:39). After that, they address the sad news about the death of Steve Albini at the age of 61 (16:11). They recap the musician/producer's illustrious career, and wonder whether his death marks the end of an era in indie music. Then the guys delve into a recent interview with a member of the shoegaze band Whirr and Ian's run-in with them back in the 2010s (38:02).

In the mailbag, a listener comes up with a new term ? Poochie band, after the famous Simpsons episode ? to describe acts that have one song so good that it makes it impossible to hear any other song they have ever made (46:46). What bands apply as "Poochie" material?

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the latest effort from hardcore band Knocked Loose while Steven backs the new album by Amen Dunes (55:19).

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Steven and Ian begin today's episode by catching up with "Euphoria," the diss track that Kendrick Lamar unleashed on Drake this week. Did Kendrick really confuse The Sixth Sense star Haley Joel Osment with Texas televangelist Joel Osteen? Looks like it! (0:30) They also check in with the buzzy Sabrina Carpenter pop hit "Espresso," which has signaled the annual (tiresome) conversation about the song of the summer. (11:14)

Then they transition to a conversation about Local Natives, the LA band who recently lost one of their founding members. Steven and Ian recap the group's career and comment on the enduring popularity of early 2010s indie stars. (17:26) From there, they discuss three artists who Steven's Fantasy Albums team ? Jessica Pratt, Mdou Moctar, and Kamasi Washington ? who put out new albums today. (30:25)

In the mailbag, they give the yay-or-nay treatment to Amen Dunes (41:54), and also engage in more Lake Mendota/Hovvdy talk. (48:03)

For Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the Swedish band Rain Recordings while Steven catches with the British group English Teacher. (53:31)

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Steven begins this episode like he has many other installments of Indiecast ? by complaining to Ian about the performance of his Fantasy Albums team. In this instance, he thought he had a sure thing ? a new Taylor Swift album ? but after a predictable wave of early raves, Taylor?s Metacritic score has tumbled amid a critical backlash. What happened? (0:30) Steven and Ian also recap their recent experiences at two very different concerts, Phish at Sphere and Cindy Lee in San Diego. (16:08)

After that, Steven proceeds to rant about Oasis not get inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame this year, and how this underlines once again the Rock Hall?s bias against alt and indie bands of the 1980s and ?90s. (25:24) He also compares Foreigner and Peter Frampton to former NFL quarterback Trent Dilfer. and it definitely makes sense. Then the guys review the new album by the charming Austin indie-pop duo Hovvdy, who make very good patio music. (36:23) In the mailbag, a listener brings up new music from Menomena and if it?s ever bad to sound too much like yourself. (45:07)

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the ?sasscore? band SeeYouSpaceCowboy while Steven goes for a classic rec with the ?80s band Love And Rockets. (52:57)

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 186 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and Twitter for all the latest news.

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Steven and Ian begin this week?s episode by talking about shows they plan on seeing this weekend ? Ian is going to check out the buzzy retro-pop master Cindy Lee (3:56) while Steven is venturing to Las Vegas to see Phish play the Sphere (0:29). They also briefly touch on the iffy-looking Taylor Swift album out today, The Tortured Poets Department, which has high ?unintentional comedy? potential (12:16).

From there they follow up on last week?s Coachella discussion to cover some of the festival?s viral performances, which also happen to be the biggest trainwrecks of the opening weekend: Blur?s indifferently received spot and Grimes? glitch-filled DJ set (18:07). Then they review two albums out today by veteran rock acts: Pearl Jam?s Dark Matter (25:36)and Cloud Nothings? Final Summer (39.18). Do they still have the juice? The guys hash it out.

In Recommendation Corner, Ian recommends Chanel Beads and Steven raves about the new single by Ben Seratan (50:06).

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 185 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and Twitter for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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