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Born of Wonder

"We make idols of our concepts but wisdom is born of wonder." Host Katie Marquette takes listeners on a sound-rich, audio adventure for your ears, exploring beauty, aesthetics, theology, literature, and art. www.bornofwonder.com

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S3 EP26: Living a Literary Life

On this first episode of Season 3, Katie celebrates the literary life - St. Jerome, the patron saint of librarians/readers, Rory from Gilmore Girls, Beauty and the Beast (and that epic library!), and how books can be portals to other worlds. Inspiration for a new year filled with books! 

  www.bornofwonder.com Instagram: @bornofwonder   Music: Blue Dot Sessions   www.goodreads.com/katiesonlinelibrary   Become a Patron! https://www.patreon.com/bornofwonder?fan_landing=true    Recommendation:   1998 Thomas Newman Little Women Soundtrack  https://open.spotify.com/album/0Ug5EnJH0wl1DFPC8HAtpK   "St. Jerome and the Literary Life" https://www.bornofwonder.com/home/st-jerome-and-the-literary-life 
2022-01-25
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BONUS Episode! Tolkien?s ?Eucatastrophe?

Bonus episode ! New Year's resolutions, getting outside and exploring Tolkien's concept of Eucatastrophe, ?the sudden joyous turn, the mark of all fairy tales.? We discuss Eucatastrophe in the context of other literary devices including perapatea, anagnorisis, and deux ex machina. Eucatastrophe is unique in the belief - the insistence - on a fundamentally just, ?true,? universe. We also explore Shakespeare?s beautiful play, ?The Winter?s Tale,? and how the last scene (Queen Hermione coming back to life) epitomizes a ?Eucatastrophic? moment.

  www.bornofwonder.com @bornofwonder on instagram    https://www.bornofwonder.com/home/eucatastrophe-tolkiens-joyous-turn   Audio from "On Fairy Stories" Podcast (2020)   1000 Hours Outside Movement https://www.1000hoursoutside.com/ 
2022-01-11
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S2 EP25: The Winter Solstice and Embracing the Darkness

On this final episode of Season 2, Katie meditates on "wintering" and embracing the dark times in the year - and in life. Dark Night of the Soul, the turning of the year, a chance for reflection... And some recommendations (Icelandic Book Flood! When Harry Met Sally!) to get us ready for a new year.    Thank you so much for following along this season - looking forward to Season 3!!    Get in touch : www.bornofwonder.com   Leave a review on iTunes!   St. John of the Cross - Dark Night of the Soul https://www.poetseers.org/spiritual-and-devotional-poets/christian/the-works-of-st-john-of-the-cross/dark-night-of-the-soul/    Wintering by Katherine May    Interview with Katherine May on "On Being"  https://onbeing.org/programs/katherine-may-how-wintering-replenishes/    Icelandic Book Flood Tradition https://www.fatherly.com/play/icelandic-christmas-eve-tradition-jolabokaflod/    The Big Ponder Episode - "The Night"  https://www.goethe.de/prj/tbp/en/eps/thn.html    Music - Bluedotsessions   Final Scene of When Harry Met Sally 
2021-12-21
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S2 EP24: The Beauty of Eastern Rite Catholicism: Interview with Rebecca Hamilton

On this episode, Katie chats with Rebecca Hamilton, a practicing Eastern Rite Catholic, exploring the unique, transcendent beauty of this liturgy. We'll learn about some of the practical differences between Eastern and Latin Rite, what family and community life is like as a Byzantine Catholic, and we'll also hear some BEAUTIFUL chant from the Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom. No matter what your religious (or non religious) background, this episode is a deep dive into Beauty as a Lived, Practiced, Reality. 

  More at: www.bornofwonder.com    "A Light that Shines in the Darkness" https://www.bornofwonder.com/home/a-light-that-shines-in-the-darkness    ** I use the term "Latin" and "Roman" Rite when really there is only "Latin Rite" (this is the rite you are likely familiar with as a Roman Catholic) - a "Latin Mass" is the "Extraordinary Form of the Latin Rite" (It does not have to do with what language the Mass is said in)    Liturgical Chant from The Divine Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom chanted in English by the Mount Lebanon Choir of Byzantine Music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8MUi27Ff2s&t=105s    Evlogitaria of the dead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6je5axPodI&t=92s    Find Rebecca on instagram @bairntenaya    Rebecca's Spotify Playlist of Chant:   https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7Jzc6njWloo8sBZ0NWHYQj?si=fc24a0b854d14e1c     https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1SBd0VfthcUMjjq0fgvbUz?si=9e34c9dc7b834eae    "A Look at the Different Rites in the Catholic Church" https://blessedisshe.net/blog/byzantine-catholic-liturgy/    Infant Communion in the West https://preachersinstitute.com/2012/12/08/infant-communion-the-ancient-western-tradition/   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDVJH1xUTNY Difference between Eastern Catholics and Orthodox beginning at 3:31   Recommendation -- Kontakion of the Nativity of Christ  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSyC33rj0Xo 
2021-12-14
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S2 EP23: Advent with Maria von Trapp

On this episode, Katie explores the Advent traditions of the real life von Trapp family (inspiration for the famous "Sound of Music"), reading from Maria's autobiography - filled with beautiful Advent music and ideas for the coming season. Also - bonus - Julie Andrews and Maria Yodeling Together :)    www.bornofwonder.com   Lord of the Rings Advent Guide https://www.bornofwonder.com/home/journeying-through-advent-with-lord-of-the-rings     The Story of the Trapp Family Singers: The Story that Inspired the Sound of Music Maria Augusta Trapp    Music:   Benedictine Sisters of Mary   Vivaldi: Gloria - Gloria in excelsis Deo · Monteverdi Choir · English Baroque Soloists · John Eliot Gardiner · Antonio Vivaldi   Wexford Carol - Violin Solos, YouTube   Recommendation -   Robin Bullock, Guitarist, "A Guitar for Christmas'
2021-11-30
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S2 EP22: What Does it Mean to be Human?

What does it mean to be a human being? When Jane Goodall discovered chimpanzees could effectively use tools and had complex social bonds she challenged the idea of human exceptionalism. But we are exceptional... aren't we? What does it mean to be a Human Person, a Human Animal? Imagination? Morality? And what does it mean to be made in the Image and Likeness of God? On this episode we celebrate and explore the  dignity of human person and our place in Creation.

  Smithsonian Institute Human Origins Project https://humanorigins.si.edu/about/become-involved/submit-your-response-what-does-it-mean-be-human    "Jane" Documentary National Geographic https://films.nationalgeographic.com/jane-the-movie    "Reason for Hope" - Jane Goodall    The Dignity of a Human Person: A Catholic Doctrine

by Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan

https://churchlifejournal.nd.edu/articles/the-dignity-of-a-human-person-a-catholic-doctrine/    Language of God Podcast https://biologos.org/podcast/language-of-god    Morrison's Jig - Anthea Lawrence  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHS1gOQtJjw 
2021-11-23
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S2 EP21: Look to the Stars

On this episode, Katie explores the history of astronomy and stargazing - with a dabbling of poetry and theology, we remember to look up and stay in awe of our place in the wide expanse of the universe. 

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App: Star Walk 2

Recommendation:

The Tallis Scholars - If Ye Love Me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI5Y9l2NHIo 

Lion King Stars Scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmDvpoVtXu4 

Music: Blue Dot Sessions 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2021-11-11
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S2 EP20: Sacred Music and the Dictatorship of Noise

Happy All Souls Day - the last day of Allhallowtide, the triduum of All Hallow's Eve, All Saint's Day, and All Soul's Day. Today on the podcast Katie plays us some stunning sacred music (courtesy of the Brompton Oratory and The Baltimore Basilica) and discusses the importance of sacred music in the liturgy (is it just a matter of taste? what's the difference between contemporary music and chant? etc.) 

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How Agatha Christie Saved the Latin Mass

https://www.bornofwonder.com/home/how-agatha-christie-saved-the-latin-mass 

 

Pope Benedict's Writings on Music

http://www.stjohncc.com/popeben.htm 

 

Christianity Gets Weird - New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/08/opinion/sunday/weird-christians.html 

Beethoven - GLORIA from the Missa Solemnis 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOjOCVzABZs 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2021-11-02
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S2 EP19: Haunted by Sylvia Plath

In this episode, we explore the haunting, rich, complex poetry of Sylvia Plath. Katie shares some of her personal history with Plath and why she continues to be a source of inspiration and fascination. Also discussions of memento mori, shared mortality, and how to remember and pray for the Dead during the month of October. 

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Instagram: @born.of.wonder

 

"Of Life After Death:" At Last, a Plath Biography Worthy of its Subject

https://www.bornofwonder.com/home/of-life-after-death-sylvia-plath-biography 

 

Offering Mass for Sylvia Plath and The Beauty of Allhallowtide

https://www.bornofwonder.com/home/mass-for-sylvia-plath-and-allhallowtide 

 

Plath Reading Lady Lazarus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq2LOhaf97o&t=3s 

 

Plath Reading Daddy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hHjctqSBwM&t=85s 

 

Plath Reading Tulips 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLNXOA9CzAQ 

 

Plath Reading Nick and the Candlestick 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHJsJBm413U 

 

Also referenced - 

 

"Red Comet: The Short Life and Blazing Art of Sylvia Plath" by Heather Clark

 

"Birthday Letters" by Ted Hughes

 

Danse Macabre by Camille Saint-Saens 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyknBTm_YyM 

2021-10-19
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S2 EP18: Wonder in a Digital Age

On this episode, Katie has an honest and self reflective discussion about the role technology plays in our lives. With wisdom from Martin Luther King Jr. to Thoreau to Wendell Berry... We'll learn about a man who signed off for good - could we do the same? Should we? What are the good things about technology? How can we maintain our sense of wonder and awe in an age of distraction? 

  www.bornofwonder.com   Music: Blue Dot Sessions   "The Dangerous Digitization of Our Lives" https://www.bornofwonder.com/home/the-dangerous-digitization-of-our-lives    Technology destroys people and places. I?m rejecting it Mark Boyle https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/19/life-without-technology-rejecting-technology    "Mad Farmer's Liberation Front"  https://cals.arizona.edu/~steidl/Liberation.html    Dvorak's New World Symphony - played in the episode by the Berlin Philharmonic   Full symphony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh_nHgbhYRg 
2021-10-13
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S2 Ep17: Is Time Real? Living with ?the Timeless in our Hearts?

On this episode of Born of Wonder, Katie has a far reaching discussion on everything from Ecclesiastes to Tesseracts and Black Holes, the possibility of Time Travel to what it means to be "timeless" while living in Time and Monks living in "Byzantine Time"... Also the Liturgy, Doctor Who, Interstellar, time management with a baby and more!    www.bornofwonder.com   Music: Blue Dot Sessions   The Byrds "Turn Turn Turn" Hans Zimmer - Interstellar "The Charleston"    Mt Athos "60 minutes" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CxkSp_jmd4&list=PLOFZoffZBuUareYRUTYX_BJ25jJ4cR0nW    Recommendations -   "Breakfast at Tiffany's" Audrey Hepburn singing Moon River: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uirBWk-qd9A&t=2s    BBC Earth Podcast  https://www.bbcearth.com/podcast 
2021-10-07
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S2 EP 16: Live like a Hobbit

How can we embrace a Hobbit like life of coziness, bravery, love, and simple gifts? Celebrating Hobbit Day all year round on Born of Wonder. Lots of Lord of the Rings inspiration on this episode.   more at: www.bornofwonder.com    "Celebrating Hobbit Day and Tolkien Week" https://www.bornofwonder.com/home/celebrating-hobbit-day-and-tolkien-week    Yo Yo Ma "Simple Gifts" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aQXvbjfAGE    Leave a review on iTunes! 
2021-09-28
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S2 EP15: Autumn and its Beautiful Sorrows

September is traditionally a month of sorrows - specifically, the Seven Sorrows of the Virgin Mary. On this episode we turn inward, celebrate the dying leaves and colder temperatures, the new rhythms of Fall and the beauty of this pensive time of year. 

  More at: www.bornofwonder.com   "The Sorrows of Autumn" https://www.bornofwonder.com/home/the-sorrows-of-autumn   "The Seven Sorrows" Ted Hughes https://hellopoetry.com/poem/5321/the-seven-sorrows/    "Autumn and the Return of Rhythm" https://www.bornofwonder.com/home/autumn-and-the-return-of-rhythm     Max Richter - Autumn 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia9JqBHnj_I    Peat Dance - Danish String Quartet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlsVuhD0AaQ 
2021-09-06
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S2 EP 14: In Praise of the Not So Happy Ending

In this episode, Katie explores the importance of watching and reading stories that DON'T end happily ever after. From Annie Hall to Hans Christian Andersen's "Little Mermaid" to Greta Gerwig's Little Women and Out of Africa... A broad conversation on how there are many TYPES of happy endings that we can embrace, both in art and in our own lives.   More at: www.bornofwonder.com    Recommendation: Out of Africa    Burrowshire Podcast - Theology and Disney  https://burrowshirepodcast.com/disney-and-theology/    "I want to own my story:" Greta Gerwig's Little Women is a Triumph https://www.bornofwonder.com/home/i-want-to-own-my-own-book-greta-gerwigs-little-women-is-a-triumph   

 

2021-08-24
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S2 EP13: G.K. Chesterton and the Cosmic Patriot

On this episode we explore the works of G.K. Chesterton, in particular his concept of 'patriotism' in the context of the universe - the idea of being 'a cosmic patriot.' How can we embrace Chesterton's wonder, awe, and childlike trust in the world? 

 

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Recommendations:

Sing the Liturgy Podcast

https://singthehours.org 

Irish and Celtic Music Podcast

https://www.celticmusicpodcast.com 

 

 

2021-08-11
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S2 EP12: Dreams and Praise: The Poetry of John Berryman

On this episode Katie and her husband Chris dive into the poetry of John Berryman, discussing his famous Dream Songs as well as his beautiful late poetry (11 Addresses to the Lord).    "Master of beauty, craftsman of the snowflake, inimitable contriver, endower of Earth so gorgeous & different from the boring Moon, thank you for such as it is my gift.   I have made up a morning prayer to you containing with precision everything that most matters. ?According to Thy will? the thing begins. It took me off & on two days. It does not aim at eloquence.   You have come to my rescue again & again in my impassable, sometimes despairing years. You have allowed my brilliant friends to destroy themselves and I am still here, severely damaged, but functioning.   Unknowable, as I am unknown to my guinea pigs: how can I ?love? you? I only as far as gratitude & awe confidently & absolutely go."   More at: www.bornofwonder.com    11 Addresses to the Lord: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/48948/eleven-addresses-to-the-lord    Tonight by Sibylle Baier  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY_F0mPq7ec 
2021-07-29
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S2 EP11: Living a Good Story

?But how could you live and have no story to tell??

? Fyodor Dostoevsky

On this episode Katie explores the importance of living out a cohesive narrative - how stories transform our lives and give them their deepest meaning. She shares how Jo March changed the way she viewed her own life and the story she was living. What is the soundtrack of your life? Who are the characters? "Be the heroine of your own life, not the victim." Some inspiration and conviction to live out beautiful stories. More at: www.bornofwonder.com Music: Blue Dot Sessions Phillip Levine on Lowell and Berryman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9CLUCuX90w 

To Autumn by John Keatshttps://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44484/to-autumn  "Living the Story of Your Life" https://www.bornofwonder.com/home/living-the-story-of-your-life  Richter Recomposed: Autumn 1

2021-07-12
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S2 EP10: Sleep, Perchance to Dream

In this first episode of Season 2, Katie explores the concept of Sleep - the association with dreams, visions, thin places, and death. Learn more at www.bornofwonder.com

**Please forgive some of the audio hum in this episode.    Background Music: Blue Dot Sessions   Recommendations:    "The Sleeping Giant"  Inishtooskert  https://www.pinterest.com/pin/190347521721699278/    Molly Ban Alison Krauss and the Cheiftans The Chieftains & Alison Krauss - Molly Ban - YouTube   On Fairy Stories - The Stolen Child: Fairies and Changelings  On Fairy Stories ? EP2: The Stolen Child: Fairies and Changelings 
2021-06-28
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EP9: Celtic Otherworlds, St. Patrick, and Selkies! Slainte!

Celebrating St. Patrick's Day and all things Celtic! On this episode, Katie discusses Irish culture, the legends and myths of St. Patrick, the haunting story of Niamh and Oisin and Tir Na Nog - the land of eternal youth, the mysterious selkies of the Irish seas, and much more.    Visit: www.bornofwonder.com  Leave a review: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/born-of-wonder/id1521925425    Discussions -  "TÍR NA NÓG: THE STORY OF NIAMH AND OISÍN" "AN OLD WOMAN'S REFLECTIONS" BY PEIG SAYERS  "THE PEOPLE OF THE SEA" BY DAVID THOMPSON "SONG OF THE SEA" MOVIE - TRAILER - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgbXWt8kM5Q    Music:  

"The Road to Lisdoonvarna and Scollay's" - Pinniped  - Free Music Archive

"Fanny Power" - Slainte - Free Music Archive "Mike in the Wilderness" - played by Katie Marquette Guitar and piano music underneath poetry - played by Chris Marquette   Recommendation:  The Poetry of William Butler Yeats "The Stolen Child" - https://poets.org/poem/stolen-child "When You are Old" - https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43283/when-you-are-old    "Bobby Kennedy for President" 4 part series on Netflix 
2021-03-16
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EP8: What is Art and Why Does it Matter?

On this episode, we ask a big question: "what is art and why does it matter?" Can we define what makes art "good" or "bad" - and is it important that we do? Discussion covers philosopher Roger Scruton, theologians Paul Tillich and Martin Buber, and St. John Paul II's "Letter to Artists." 

 

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Paul Tillich: "Dynamics of Faith"

Martin Buber: "I and Thou" 

"Letter to Artists" JPII: http://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/letters/1999/documents/hf_jp-ii_let_23041999_artists.html 

Roger Scruton - "Art Today" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymQ4ruPsJ_c&feature=emb_logo 

E.E. Cummings - "i thank you God for most this amazing"

Music: Blue Dot Sessions

 

Recommendation: The Oldest Welsh Lullaby - Dinogad's Smock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBl7ZFI-QP8 

2021-03-02
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EP7: Three Lily James Movies to Watch Right Now

On this episode, Katie recommends three excellent Lily James movies to inspire you and keep you feeling optimistic! (It's a serious skill to pull of such charming naivety so kudos to you, Lily James). Good movies - like all good art - keep us grounded in the good, true, and beautiful. 

 

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Movies:

"The Dig" - available on Netflix

"Yesterday" - available on Hulu and Amazon Prime

"The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Society" - available on Netflix

 

Recommendation:

"Girl from the North Country" - Bob Dylan and Johnny Cash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je4Eg77YSSA 

2021-02-23
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EP6: Rediscovering Authentic Celebration

Happy Mardi Gras! On this episode we explore the importance of leisure and authentic celebration. We are taken through an authentic Scottish Burns Day Supper as we discover how to partake in celebration with serious JOY! 

 

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Music: Blue Dot Sessions

Free Music Archive: 

"Providence Reel" - Aislann 

"The Road to Lisdoonvarna" - Pinniped

"The Burning of Piper's Hut" - Pinniped

"Si Beag Mor" - Slainte 

FreeSound: Bapipe Reel 

 

The Highwayman by Loreena McKennitt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGFo0xn4JeY

 

The Highwayman by Alfred Noyes

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43187/the-highwayman 

2021-02-16
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EP5: Heroes in an Age of Anti-Heroes

On this episode we explore the rise of the anti-hero and how to recover our sense of heroic (and why it matters). We'll touch on anti-heroes like Mad Men's Don Draper and explore in depth the great literary heroine, Jo March. Finally, a note on why sainthood doesn't mean perfection and why St. Joseph is the inspiration we need in 2021. 

 

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Music Credit: Blue Dot Sessions

"Why We All Want to be Jo March" - https://www.bornofwonder.com/home/why-we-all-want-to-be-jo-march 

Pope Francis' Apostolic Letter, With a Father's Heart - http://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/apost_letters/documents/papa-francesco-lettera-ap_20201208_patris-corde.html 

"Audrey Hepburn's Favorite Song" by Paul Rogers - https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/02/08/audrey-hepburns-favorite-song 

"The Quiet Wisdom of Audrey Hepburn" - https://www.bornofwonder.com/home/the-quiet-wisdom-of-audrey-hepburn 

"Audrey" by the Dave Brubeck Quartet - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06u6wwwKlno 

2021-02-11
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EP4: Groundhog Day and the Meaning of Time

Happy Groundhog Day! On this episode we explore the deep philosophical and theological implications of the 1993 movie "Groundhog Day" starring Bill Murray and Andie MacDowell. Will we have an early spring or a long winter? Does Time still have meaning if it never changes? Are we currently living in a Groundhog Day loop during Covid-19 quarantines and lockdowns? Ultimately, we learn, Time is given meaning in how well we are able to love others. 

 

Recommendation: Ryan Joseph Burns 'A Man's a Man for A' That' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPeAjhXWJvI 

 

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2021-02-02
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EP3: The Peace of Wild Things

On this episode we explore our complicated relationship with the natural world. What does the violence of nature teach us about our human capacity for justice, empathy, of love? How do we find rest in animals, nature, and myth? Inspired by Wendell Berry's poem, "The Peace of Wild Things," Helen Macdonald's "H is for Hawk," and the poetry of Ted Hughes and Mary Oliver. 

 

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BBC Slow Radio: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/b09cy8yl 

Sounds courtesy of FreeSound

Music courtesy of Blue Dot Sessions

 

2021-01-26
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EP2: Piranesi and the Labyrinth

Piranesi by Susanna Clarke is ?about a man who lives in a House in which an Ocean is imprisoned?. On this episode we use this book as the inspiration for a wide-reaching meditation on mazes, labyrinths, minotaurs, the prison etchings of Giovanni Piranesi, and the theology of Simone Weil. 

 

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Music credit: Blue Dot Sessions

 

"The Sound of the Carceri": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQrQvrqwwRE 

2021-01-19
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EP1: Into the Wardrobe

On this first episode of Born of Wonder, we explore the concept of wonder, awe, gratitude, and story. We discover the importance of reclaiming a sense of wonder in the world, especially inspired by C.S. Lewis's "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe."

 

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Music credit:

BlueDot Sessions

2021-01-12
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TRAILER : Born of Wonder

"we make idols of our concepts, but wisdom is born of wonder." Introducing an innovative, sound-rich, audio delight for your ears... A Podcast that explores art, literature, theology, beauty, goodness, aesthetics, and wisdom. Learn more about Born of Wonder, coming Fall 2020. 

2020-07-02
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