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On this episode of That UFO Podcast, I?m joined by Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman to discuss the launch of their new podcast, Sound, Light, Frequency.
Bryce returns to the show, while Brent makes his first appearance, and together we get into a wide-ranging conversation on Dark Skies, Hollywood, disclosure, insider influence, and how entertainment may have shaped public perception of the UFO topic for decades.
We discuss Brent?s remarkable early experience being briefed by a figure connected to the Reagan administration, the mysterious approaches made to them around Dark Skies, whether those kinds of quiet conversations are still happening today, and what they now believe about the subject after years of working around it.
We also talk about the new podcast, why now felt like the right time to launch it, what they hope to do with it, and how they see the current state of UFO disclosure in 2026.
This is a fascinating discussion on storytelling, secrecy, media, and the ever-blurring line between fiction and reality.
You can find Sound, Light, Frequency wherever you get your podcasts.
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Mark Christopher Lee joins me to discuss the controversy surrounding his claims that President Trump was set to deliver a UFO disclosure speech on July 8.
We discuss the two sources Mark says gave him the information, why he trusted them, what happened with the alleged May 1 Washington press conference, and why he now feels he may have been misled.
We also talk about Mark?s background in the UFO subject, the paranormal side of the phenomenon, and the wider issue of accountability when big claims are made in this topic.
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In this news update, Andy breaks down one of the most interesting recent public conversations on UFOs, as Eric Davis and Eric Weinstein go back and forth on interdimensional language, David Grusch, physics, secrecy and why alleged crash-retrieval programs still seem so difficult to understand.
Also in this episode: Weinstein?s appearance on Piers Morgan, the renewed attention on Havana Syndrome after 60 Minutes, Eric Burlison?s first site visit and why Pax River remains a facility of interest, Tim Burchett pressing President Trump on disclosure, Ross Coulthart?s latest claims about withheld UAP videos, portal allegations, and the disappearance of General Neil McCasland.
Topics include:
Eric Davis and Eric Weinstein on American Alchemy
Grusch, ?interdimensional beings? and the language problem
Why alleged crash programs may not involve top physicists
Piers Morgan, Epstein, conspiracy language and UFO secrecy
Havana Syndrome and why it matters to the wider conversation
Burlison?s site visit, Pax River and requests for specific UFO files
Tim Burchett?s latest comments on Trump and disclosure
Ross Coulthart on withheld videos, portals and McCasland
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In this UFO news update, Andy breaks down several significant developments in the ongoing UAP disclosure conversation.
A sitting U.S. Congressman has revealed he received approval from the White House to visit facilities allegedly connected to reverse engineering programs involving non-human technology. The visit was scheduled for the end of February, raising the question of whether that inspection may have already taken place.
At the same time, the Pentagon?s UAP office, AARO, says it is now working directly with the White House to consolidate and release previously unseen UAP records.
Also discussed in this episode:
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? Ross Coulthart?s report of an alleged restricted ?portal? site in the United States
? Avi Loeb and the Galileo Project building a scientific system to detect UAP
? The reported disappearance of retired U.S. Air Force Major General Neil McCasland, previously linked to early disclosure discussions connected to Tom DeLonge
Taken together, these developments suggest the UFO conversation continues to evolve at multiple levels ? government oversight, scientific investigation, and public debate.
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In this episode, Richard Dolan returns to discuss China?s approach to the UFO phenomenon.
From the Mao era suppression of UFO reports to the post-1976 explosion of sightings, we explore how China has handled unidentified aerial phenomena politically, culturally and militarily.
We also examine:
Whether China operates a structured military filtering system for UFO reports
How reverse engineering might be approached inside a highly centralised state
Whether China or Russia would treat disclosure differently from the United States
The geopolitical implications of advanced non-human technology
This conversation expands on our previous discussion and shifts the focus toward China?s long-term strategy, national security culture and how the UFO question fits into a global context.
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This week the UFO conversation did not explode but it shifted.
No mention of UFOs in the State of the Union. The Pentagon confirms file reviews are underway. Luis Elizondo references 2027 and 2036. Jeremy Corbell debates Michael Shermer on mainstream television. Rumours of an artificial object continue to circulate. Gary McKinnon resurfaces in a rare interview. And Navy pilots Ryan Graves and Alex Dietrich call for transparency and patience.
This episode is a pulse check on where the UFO topic stands right now.
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Last week both Barack Obama and Donald Trump publicly addressed aliens and UFOs, triggering global reaction and renewed calls for transparency.
But what if disclosure is not what people think it is?
In this in depth conversation, Richard Dolan breaks down Trump?s directive to identify and release UFO files, the role of the intelligence community, compartmentation inside the Department of Defense and Department of Energy, and why Presidents may not control the deepest secrets.
We explore the difference between disclosure and contact, whether non human intelligences have any motivation to engage with humanity, and what realistic outcomes could follow from political pressure in Washington.
Is meaningful disclosure actually possible, or are the structures of secrecy too deeply embedded?
This is a sober analysis of where the UFO issue stands right now.
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A UFO so large it could not be transported. That was the claim made by investigative journalist Ross Coulthart in 2023. According to the story, a structure was built over the craft because it was simply too big to move, and the location was said to be outside of the United States.
Since then, speculation has ranged from Pine Gap in Australia to secure facilities in Nevada and Europe. More recently, attention has focused on a specific site in South Korea.
In this episode, Andy revisits the origins of the Too Big To Move claim and outlines the criteria such a site would need to meet, including long term security, government control, and the infrastructure to sustain secrecy.
Researcher Ryan Purkey joins the show to examine the geography, tunnel systems, military presence, and scientific facilities that have brought renewed focus to the location near Anyang.
Is this a credible investigative lead, or another case of speculation attaching itself to a secure installation? We break down what can be tested and what remains unverified.
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In what may prove to be a historic week, both a former President and a sitting President have spoken openly about aliens and UFOs.
Now the reaction is coming in from high-level voices across government and the UFO community.
In this rapid update, Andy breaks down:
? Congressman Jared Moskowitz suggesting bipartisan action
? Jay Stratton calling this a landmark moment
? Lue Elizondo thanking President Trump for taking steps toward disclosure
? Chris Mellon warning of the complexities ahead
? Senator Kirsten Gillibrand urging follow-through
? Sean Kirkpatrick dismissing the entire moment as distraction
Is this the beginning of meaningful action? or another cycle of political noise?
Plus listener reactions and what could happen next.
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Breaking news.
President Donald Trump has announced he will direct relevant U.S. government departments to identify and release files relating to UFOs, UAP and alien life.
What does this actually mean?
In this episode, Andy breaks down:
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? The Obama comments earlier this week
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Is this disclosure? Or just another headline moment?
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President Donald Trump is rumoured to have a speech prepared about extraterrestrial life and Lara Trump has just commented on it.
In today?s update, we break down what was said, the origins of the disclosure rumours, Steven Greer and Eric Burlison?s buried UFO claims, and why Skywatcher is now over 12 months beyond its original public timeline.
Let?s get into it.
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Former President Barack Obama has sparked a global reaction after saying ?Aliens are real? during an interview with political commentator Brian Tyler Cohen.
The clip has gone viral worldwide.
But is it confirmation? or context taken out of a speed-round moment?
In this 16-minute news update, I break down:
? The exact quote
? His follow-up clarification on Instagram
? The Area 51 reference
? Why he specifically said ?during my presidency?
? Whether this could be part of soft disclosure
? And what it means for the broader UFO conversation
Obama previously addressed UFOs on The Late Late Show with James Corden, stating:
?There are things I just can?t tell you on air.?
So what changed?
Let me know your thoughts in the comments - was this scientific probability, a Freudian slip, or something more deliberate?
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In Part 2 of this conversation, Joe McMoneagle discusses one of the most talked-about sessions in the history of remote viewing - the ?Mars 1 Million BC? target.
Joe explains:
How the Mars target was conducted
Why he was angry when he saw what the envelope said
The verification attempt at JPL
Time, perception, and viewing the future
His thoughts on UFO crash sites
Ethics, disclosure, and advanced civilizations
This episode moves beyond intelligence operations into the philosophical and cosmic implications of remote viewing.
If you?ve heard about the Mars session before, this is Joe explaining it directly.
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In Part 1 of this two-part interview, former U.S. Army intelligence officer and Project Stargate remote viewer Joe McMoneagle reveals what it was really like inside America?s psychic espionage program.
We discuss:
Joe?s early life and UFO encounter in The Bahamas
His recruitment into military intelligence
The Soviet ?super-submarine? case
CIA operational missions
Why remote viewing worked - and why it was controversial
The internal battles that led to the program?s closure
This episode focuses on the operational side of remote viewing, the missions, the results, and the politics behind the scenes.
Part 2 continues with the controversial ?Ancient Mars? session and Joe?s views on UFOs and advanced civilizations.
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It?s been a busy few weeks in the world of UFO news.
In this episode of That UFO Podcast, Andy breaks down newly released footage reportedly captured by an MQ-9 Reaper drone over the Jordanian-Syrian border, showing what appears to be instantaneous acceleration, one of the ?five observables.?
We also dive into newly surfaced Russian UFO files reportedly smuggled out by George Knapp in the 1990s, including mass sightings, alleged onboard encounters, and Soviet-era investigations into the phenomenon.
Plus:
? Congressman Eric Burlison discusses a classified location allegedly housing a massive craft too large to move
? A potential new whistleblower on the horizon
? Bob Lazar makes a surprise return during the ?It?s Probably Nothing? stage show
? The latest Super Bowl trailer for Spielberg?s Disclosure Day
? Listener questions on document transfers, the UAP Disclosure Act, and whether any of this is real
With upcoming interviews featuring Richard Dolan and Joe McMoneagle, the conversation continues to evolve.
Is this a calm before the storm, or the start of something bigger?
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In this episode of That UFO Podcast, Andy is joined by constitutional lawyer and New Paradigm Institute president Danny Sheehan for a wide-ranging discussion on UFO secrecy and the current state of disclosure.
Sheehan explains why he believes Congress already has the constitutional authority to declassify UFO information, how whistleblower protections could change the landscape, and why public pressure is becoming impossible to ignore.
The conversation also touches on testimony involving a deathbed confession of an alleged encounter with a non-human entity, raising deeper questions about how such accounts should be understood and evaluated.
A timely and revealing discussion on power, secrecy, and the future of disclosure.
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In this episode, Andy is joined by Reed Summers, organiser of the UAP Detection and Tracking Summit, and Rich Hoffman, veteran UAP researcher and Strategic Advisor to the summit.
The conversation focuses on why detection and tracking are now the most critical steps in UAP research, the limitations of leaked military footage, the growing role of citizen science, and why transparent, multi-sensor data is essential if the subject is ever to move beyond speculation.
Reed and Rich discuss how modern technology makes civilian-led UAP detection possible, the importance of international data standards, and how public participation may be key to meaningful progress on the issue.
This episode serves as a practical overview of the goals, thinking, and scientific approach behind the upcoming UAP Detection and Tracking Summit.
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In part two, we move into the most unsettling and controversial testimony connected to Rendlesham Forest.
Gary discusses accounts of beams of light directed into nuclear bunkers, grid-like scanning patterns over the base, and visual descriptions of a translucent wedge-shaped craft observed at close range.
We also explore testimony describing a glowing fog near ground level, objects dividing into multiple forms, and reports of what appeared to be non-human beings seen near the craft during a silent encounter.
Finally, we examine what these details imply, why they were rarely discussed publicly, and how they challenge conventional explanations of the incident.
This is the side of the Rendlesham case that is almost never explored in mainstream coverage.
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In part one of this conversation, Gary Heseltine breaks down the Rendlesham Forest incident from the ground up.
We focus on the credibility of the witnesses involved, the fact that Rendlesham was not a single event but a series of multiple timed incidents, and why the location of the base as a nuclear weapons storage site changes how the case should be viewed.
Gary also explains how the official story became streamlined over time, how key testimony was pushed aside, and why the Rendlesham narrative most people are familiar with does not reflect the full body of evidence.
This episode sets the foundation for understanding why Rendlesham remains such a significant and unresolved case.
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In this end of month news update, I break down some of the most important and under discussed developments in the UFO and UAP space as we head towards February 2026.
Topics include new claims around detection and sensor limitations, recent FOIA refusals and media access restrictions revealed by The Black Vault, and renewed debate around the Nazca mummies.
I also cover a notable article published in The Sunday Times suggesting central banks should consider the financial stability risks of a future UAP disclosure, followed by a clearly separated statement provided to me by former Bank of England analyst Helen McCaw. Her argument focuses on institutional culture, risk assessment, and why low probability, high impact scenarios can no longer be dismissed.
The episode closes with listener questions, discussion around how the UAP conversation is spreading across society, and a look ahead at major space developments from China and NASA.
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This special episode of That UFO Podcast pays tribute to Erich von Däniken, the Swiss author whose book Chariots of the Gods? helped popularise the ancient astronaut hypothesis and reshape public conversations about humanity?s past.
Erich von Däniken passed away on January 10th 2026 at the age of 90.
In this episode, Andy reflects on von Däniken?s life, influence, and the controversy surrounding his work, before sharing a short archival audio interview recorded several years ago ahead of von Däniken?s appearance at Contact in the Desert.
A respectful look at a figure whose ideas inspired curiosity, debate, and imagination for generations.
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On January 20th, a major UFO focused event took place at the Washington DC Press Club, hosted by James Fox and featuring testimony and discussion around legacy crash retrieval programs, alleged non human biologics, and long standing cases including Brazil and Varginha.
In this episode, Andy is joined by researcher and social media analyst Joe Murgia for a detailed breakdown of what was said, what stood out, and what still feels frustratingly out of reach.
They discuss the possibility of exhuming a body with family permission using modern science, the existence of alleged smoking gun videos that remain unseen, and why mainstream media once again failed to show up in force.
The conversation also explores the limits of disclosure, whistleblower protections, national security concerns, and why for the public, it may now be bodies or craft or nothing at all.
Is disclosure stalled, delayed, or simply waiting for undeniable proof.
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This is a breaking news episode summarising today?s UFO press event at the National Press Club in Washington DC, focused on the 1996 Varginha UFO case in Brazil.
Andy provides a factual, chronological recap of the event, including sworn witness testimony, recorded statements from Brazilian witnesses who were denied US visas, and commentary from congressional and medical figures.
The episode also covers the lack of mainstream media presence, the role of whistleblower protections, and listener reaction following the event.
Witness video statements discussed in this episode are available on YouTube and X.
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In Part 2, Matt Ford explains why he takes a confrontational stance online, calling out professional debunkers, media narratives, and institutional behaviour around UAPs.
We discuss accountability, skepticism versus narrative management, and where the UFO conversation may be heading next.
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In Part 1, journalist and The Good Trouble Show host Matt Ford discusses his background, early interest in UFOs, personal experiences, and why stigma continues to shape the conversation.
We explore how experiencers are affected by ridicule, why many stay silent for decades, and the human cost of dismissing the phenomenon outright.
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In this special archival episode, we revisit a largely forgotten but highly significant moment in modern UFO history.
In November 2007, international military, aviation, scientific, and government officials gathered at the National Press Club in Washington DC to publicly discuss their UFO encounters and official investigations, a full decade before the subject re-entered the mainstream conversation in 2017.
Participants included senior figures from the United States, United Kingdom, France, Belgium, Iran, Peru, and Chile, many of whom described incidents involving radar tracking, military interception, physical effects, and objects exhibiting performance beyond known technology.
This episode is compiled from the original 2007 event recordings and is published with the explicit permission of filmmaker James Fox. Advertising on this episode supports the continued production and archiving of historical UFO material.
The release of this archival event comes ahead of the upcoming National Press Club UAP press conference taking place in Washington DC on January 20th, where new witnesses and experts are expected to address the issue. A link to that event is included in the show notes.
This episode is presented for historical and educational purposes and provides essential context for understanding how today?s UFO discussion was shaped long before the current disclosure era.
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In this episode, I?m joined once again by Avi Loeb, Harvard astrophysicist, head of the Galileo Project, and author of Extraterrestrial and Interstellar.
We dive deep into 3I/ATLAS, the third known interstellar object ever detected, and why it has sparked intense scientific interest and public debate. Avi explains the unusual features of this object, including its anti-tail, orbital alignment, and chemical signatures, and why these anomalies deserve serious scrutiny.
We also discuss the CIA?s ?neither confirm nor deny? response to records about 3I/ATLAS, the idea of black swan events, criticism of narrow SETI searches, and why institutional risk-aversion may be holding science back.
This conversation explores interstellar visitors, scientific curiosity, stigma, and what discovering extraterrestrial technology would mean for humanity?s future.
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At the start of 2026, the UFO disclosure conversation appears more fractured than ever. Andy is joined by journalist and Psicoactivo podcast host Pavel to break down David Grusch?s recent comments on The Age of Disclosure, his criticism of senior intelligence figures, and the growing divide within the disclosure movement itself. From insider testimony and documentary narratives to experiencers, biologics, and public readiness, this episode explores where disclosure stands and where it may be heading next.
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In Part 2, the conversation moves from history into consequences.
Andy and Ryan examine how UFO skepticism evolved from scientific caution into something far more strategic. They explore radar interference theories, early claims of recovered craft, and whether figures like Donald Menzel knowingly participated in long-term counterintelligence efforts.
The discussion expands into modern UFO debates, including skepticism versus debunking, the treatment of eyewitness testimony, belief systems, and why the burden of proof in UFO research remains uniquely high.
This episode asks a difficult question: if skepticism was shaped by intelligence needs decades ago, are we still arguing inside rules that were set long before we knew they existed?
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In this breaking news update, Andy covers a series of major developments shaping the UFO and UAP conversation as 2026 begins.
The episode opens with the surprise appearance of a new book listing from Luis Elizondo. Titled Reckoning: The Unspoken Truth about UFOs and the Urgency of Now, the book has quietly appeared on publisher and retail sites with an expected 2026 release. Andy reads and analyses the full publisher blurb, discusses timing, positioning, and why this release matters coming from a former Pentagon insider.
Attention then turns to David Grusch and his recent high-profile interview on The Megyn Kelly Show. Andy breaks down Grusch?s comments on crash retrievals, legacy programs, misinformation campaigns, deep-state dynamics, and why Grusch appearing publicly now may be significant.
The episode also covers:
Congressional frustration over denied oversight
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The CIA?s ?neither confirm nor deny? response regarding the interstellar object ?Oumuamua / Atlas
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Reflections on Chris Bledsoe?s appearance on American Alchemy
Updates on potential upcoming press events and documentaries
A wide-ranging but grounded look at what?s happening, why it matters, and what may come next.
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UFO skepticism didn?t begin with social media or YouTube debunkers.
In Part 1 of this conversation, Andy is joined by researcher and writer Ryan Purkey to explore the early life and career of Donald H. Menzel, a Harvard astronomer, naval intelligence officer, and one of the most influential figures in shaping how UFOs would be publicly dismissed.
This episode traces Menzel?s rise through academia, his World War II work in cryptography and radar, and how those skills placed him at the heart of Cold War intelligence at the exact moment UFOs entered the public consciousness.
From early crash recovery timelines to the foundations of organised skepticism, Part 1 sets the historical groundwork for understanding why the UFO topic looks the way it does today.
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