Josh receives an email.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
This episode featured: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Jordan Taylor, and Joshua and Dakota from Somewhere in the Pines.  
 
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YouTube After Show
Trova Trip to Chile & Argentina

Music by: William Hellfire, Radical Face, Whithe, Sergey Cheremisinov. 
Featured song by: Kashka  

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.

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As the investigation into Marble Arvidson's disappearance heats up, it takes Josh and the team to a second nearby disappearance with some overwhelming connections to Keyes. And a theory the team considered several years ago, rears its very ugly head.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
With additional research assistance by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, and Michelle Tooker.  
 
Resources included:
? https://www.boston.com/uncategorized/noprimarytagmatch/2011/10/19/police-search-for-missing-shelburne-woman/
? https://digital.nepr.net/news/2016/08/29/hurricane-irene-its-been-five-years-since-shelburne-falls-building-sailed-away/
? https://www.wwlp.com/news/hurricane-irene-remembered-in-franklin-county-five-years-later/

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Music by: William Hellfire, La Bon, Yehezkel Rez, Dan Mayo, and Parhelion. 
Featured song by: The National  

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.

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Supplemental files in the Marble Arvidson case take the team on a strange journey. New interviews with Marble's friends shine a light on who he was and where he might have gone on the day he vanished. And that information shines a new light not just on Keyes, but four other disappearances in the area. 

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
With additional research by: Jordan Taylor and Shana Wilensky.  
And research assistance by: Michelle Tooker. 

This episode features: 
Shana Wilensky and Michelle Tooker. 

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Music by: William Hellfire, La Bon, and Radical Face. 
Featured song: "I Follow Rivers" by: Marika Hackman  

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.

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We are in a Berkshire Podcast Festival hangover. We're also in the midst of processing some big new information. Enjoy this bonus episode. We'll be back next week.

In this new subscriber-exclusive series, Josh talks about what didn't make it into the episodes, new information on old cases, the music behind the episodes, and more.

This week, he's sharing updates in the Spierer, Burt, Marl, and Maddux cases. He discusses details on the LaPlace cache and what it was like identifying it. He goes over his investigation priorities over the remainder of season six. We talk about the featured music played in the last two episodes. And finally, we talk questions and topics for Josh's impending interview with FBI Agent Ted Halla.

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As the team deep-dives the Mark Oldbury & Jimmy Tidwell cases, Josh develops a timeline, and Kaz finds something important in Fort Worth, Texas. 

Check out the line-up and buy tickets for the Berkshire Podcast Festival: www.berkshirepodcastfestival.com  
Use promo code FALLINTOTHESOUND for 10% your Berkshire Podcast Festival tickets. 

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Kaz, and Michelle Tooker. 
And research assistance by: Kim K and Shana Wilensky. 

This episode features: 
Shana Wilensky, Jordan Taylor, and Michelle Tooker. 

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: 
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Music by: William Hellfire, Sero, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Lee Rosevere, Fields of Ohio, and Wings for Louise. 

Featured song: "My Hands on the Water" by: Amanda Bergman  

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.

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New FOIA files, sightings, information, and the LaPlace cache take us back to Keyes's February trip to Texas and Louisiana. A fresh perspective on the disappearances of Mark Oldbury and Jimmy Tidwell help us shape a new timeline and process new discoveries.

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Join Josh in Chile & Argentina on the incredible wine-tasting Trova Trip  
Check out the line-up and buy tickets for the Berkshire Podcast Festival  
Use promo code FALLINTOTHESOUND for 10% your Berkshire Podcast Festival tickets.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Kaz, and Michelle Tooker.
And research assistance by: Kim K and Shana Wilensky.

This episode features:
Christina Alverson, Shana Wilensky, Jordan Taylor, and Michelle Tooker.

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Music by: William Hellfire, Sero, Sergey Cheremisinov, Yehezkel Raz, and Radical Face.
Featured music by: Morgan Harper-Jones

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.

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In Louisiana, our investigation into Israel Keyes changes forever.
This is a crossover episode with True Crime Garage and Somewhere in the Pines. We recommend listening to all four episodes.

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This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kim K, Joshua Ash, and Dakota Williams.

This episode featured:
Joshua and Dakota from the Somewhere in the Pines podcast 

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:
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Music by: William Hellfire, Sero, Chris Haugen, Sergey Cheremisinov, Yehezkel Raz, and Radical Face.
Featured music by: The Be Good Tanyas

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.

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Paul Bergrin is a hotshot criminal defense attorney in Newark, New Jersey. Seemingly unstoppable and with unorthodox methods, he?s built a reputation for getting his clients off the hook. But as Paul's legend grows, so do the suspicions swirling around him.

When FBI Agent Shawn Brokos starts investigating a major drug ring, she makes a shocking discovery: the gang's most powerful player is none other than Newark?s star attorney. Has the ex-federal prosecutor crossed the line and started committing crimes himself?

From Wondery, comes a new series about a lawyer who breaks all the rules, the FBI agent determined to take him down at all costs, and the people caught in the middle who paid the ultimate price.

Listen to Criminal Attorney on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen early and ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App or on Apple podcasts. Start your free trial by visiting Wondery.fm/CA_TCB now.

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Josh, Wine & Crime, and Charlie from Crimelines presented on Mary M. Cosby at the True Crime Podcast Festival. In this True Crime x Real Housewives mash-up, we tackle religious manipulation, religious protections, coercion, Jen Shah, fraud, suspicious deaths, missing persons, familial marriage, and crimes against interior decorating. We also roast Justin Evans from Generation Why.

Live from the 2024 True Crime Podcast Festival in Denver.

The second half of Season 6 of True Crime Bullsh** will launch on September 26th.

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A young boy goes missing from a beach town in Puerto Rico. Six years later, a man goes missing from that same town. Four years later, the timeline places Keyes in the area with his cell phone turned off.

The second half of Season 6 of True Crime Bullsh** will launch on September 26th.

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This episode was written and researched by Shana Wilensky and Josh Hallmark.
It was edited, produced, and hosted by Josh Hallmark.This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand Music by: Jordan Hatfield and James Forest
Featured song by Jessie Reid

Resources:Rolando Salas Jusino ? The Charley ProjectRolandito Salas - España | Fernando Fernandez, PI | Puerto Rico (elartededetectarmentiras.com)https://youtu.be/vCbMTO86mGk?si=oKadbDhGnE63A8hxToday marks 9 years since the rapture - First Hour (primerahora.com)Rolandito's parents demand sensitivity from the authorities - First Hour (primerahora.com)18 years after Rolandito's disappearance, what do we know? ? Telemundo Puerto Rico (telemundopr.com)Bad Bunny's debut album 'X100PRE' is a tribute to young Puerto Ricans (nbcnews.com)Patreon Producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Katie Butler, Kendall C, Lana Holladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boulukos, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, Hailey Ziegert, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Sara C, Shawna Hardin, Spooky, and Lydia Fiedler

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Josh and the guys from Somewhere in the Pines present on their collaborative investigation into Israel Keyes, then answer audience questions. 

Note: The audience questions were not picked up buy audio - but most are clear via the answers.

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In our final episode before the mid-season break, we breakdown our discoveries in Constable, including new details that eerily connect to old research. Then the teams behind TCB and Somewhere in the Pines all meet for the first time and discuss where they're going and where they've been.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kim K, Michelle Tooker, Jordan Taylor and Shana Wilensky.

This episode featured:
Joshua and Dakota from the Somewhere in the Pines podcast 
Kim K.
Jordan Taylor
Shana Wilensky
Michelle Tooker

Resources included: 
?  vintageaerial.com  
? The Charley Project
? NAMUS

Trova Trip: Come with us to Chile & Argentina!

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Music by: William Hellfire and Radical Face.
Featured music by: My Brightest Diamond

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Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kharisma Rodriguez, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, Hailey Ziegert John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.

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Somewhere In The Pines is a serial podcast dedicated to locating the hidden caches of American Serial Killer, Israel Keyes. Listen along as Joshua and Dakota search the small towns, rivers, and campgrounds of Washington?s Olympic Peninsula.

Somewhere in the Pines premieres on June 27th wherever you listent to podcasts.

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WHO: YOU, True Crime Bullsh**, Crimelines, and True Crime Cases with Lanie
WHAT: A vacation to South America including local food markets, wineries, a cable car tour of Santiago, views of the highest peak in the Americas, and a trip to the Pacific coast of Chile to see the UNESCO World Heritage site in Valparaíso. 
WHERE: Santiago and Valparaíso, Chile and Mendoza, Argentina
WHEN: February 27-March 5, 2025
HOW (and all the details): https://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/chile/chile-with-josh-hallmark-feb-2025


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Our investigation into whether Israel Keyes could be involved with Maura Murray's disappearance continues. We expose new information and a possible cache location. And new connections between the two cases and between two podcasts begin to take the Keyes investigation to brand new places.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kim K and Michelle Tooker.
And research assistance by Jordan Taylor and Shana Wilensky.

This episode featured Joshua and Dakota from the Somewhere in the Pines podcast. 

Resources included: 
?  Media Pressure
?  mauramurraymissing.org

Trova Trip: Come with us to Chile & Argentina!

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Music by: William Hellfire, Dan Mayo, Yotam Agam, The Bows, Sergey Cheremisinov.
Featured music by: Chromatics

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Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kharisma Rodriguez, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, Hailey Ziegert John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.

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With new evidence potential placing Israel Keyes in Upstate New York in the days following Maura Murray's disappearance, we re-evaluate his February 2004 trip to Utah, and some of the glaring flaws in the FBI's timeline. And Josh updates Julie Murray on his investigation into Keyes's February 2004 timeline and her experience with True Crime.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kim K and Michelle Tooker.
And research assistance by Jordan Taylor and Shana Wilensky.

This episode featured Julie Murray. 

Resources included: 
?  https://www.weather.gov/?  https://www.the107degree.com/records
?  Media Pressure
?  mauramurraymissing.org

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Music by: William Hellfire, Radical Face, Itai Argaman, Yehezkal Rez, Spearfisher, Streams, Kyle Preston, and Amulets.
Featured music by: The New Radicals

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Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Jordan Goodnight, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kharisma Rodriguez, Kimberly K, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Vicki Russell, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.

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Something found in Keyes's house and some odd information online take the team down two shocking investigative paths that converge in the most frustrating and strangest way. And the scope of what is possible with Keyes becomes dauntingly vaster.

Take the travel survey

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This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kim K, and Jordan Taylor

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Music by: William Hellfire, John Gegelman, Yotam Agam, and Radical Face.
Featured music by: Tori Amos

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In Vermont, two theories converge and blow the investigation wide open. And just as things seem like they can't get any crazier, they do.  

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This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kim K, Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Kaz.
Featuring: Kim K, Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, and Michelle Tooker

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:
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Music by: William Hellfire, Sergey Cheremisinov, Mike Vignola, Yehezkel Rez, and Radical Face.
Featured music by: El Perro del Mar

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We continue our look into sightings of Israel Keyes at college campuses within Keyes Hotspots.  

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kim K, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Jordan Taylor.

Resources: 
The Olympian: Students reconsider safety on Evergreen campus
The Bangor Daily News: Police searching for ?collision? rapist
The Bangor Daily News: UMaine police investigate an alleged assault

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Music by: William Hellfire, Parhelion, Jameson Nathan Jones, Wings for Louise, Sergey Cheremisinov.
Featured music by: The Eels  

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Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, Jordan Goodnight, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kharisma Rodriguez, Kimberly K, Lana, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lindsey Loucifer, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Tuesdi Woodworth, Vicki Russell, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, and Lydia Fiedler.

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We begin looking at attacks and odd encounters at college campuses on the west coast, with one particular campus - familiar to us all - coming up again and again. These encounters force us to re-evaluate a previously covered disappearance, something from the Kim interviews, and Keyes's marathon days. 

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kim K. and Shana Wilensky

Resources: 
The Western Washington University Police
The Cooper Point Journal, The Evergreen State College
The Rachel Corrie Foundation for Peace and Justice: https://rachelcorriefoundation.org/  

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Music by: William Hellfire, Radical Face, Tai Argaman, Jordan Hatfield, James Forest, Aquartos, Dan Mayo.
Featured music by: Sarah Belkner  

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Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, Jordan Goodnight, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kharisma Rodriguez, Kimberly K, Lana, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lindsey Loucifer, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Tuesdi Woodworth, Vicki Russell, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, and Lydia Fiedler.

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Photos from Keyes's Constable home open up new leads, new ideas about Keyes, and old questions. Plus a look at encounters and attacks on college campuses across the country gives us insight into how Keyes was operating.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Kim K.

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Music by: William Hellfire, Sergey Cheremisinov, Whithe, Aquartos, Dan Mayo.
Featured music by: Broken Social Scene.  

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The Kimberly interviews provide critical information to the Keyes timeline, and a pattern begins to emerge. New research takes Josh to the East Coast and two potential victims. Surprising new information leads us back to some previously disregarded tips. And more than fifty new photos change the course of the investigation.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Kim K.

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Join Josh on the AdvocacyCon livestream on Facebook at 7:30pm Central on Thursday (3/28).

Music by: William Hellfire, Sergey Cheremisinov, Radical Face, Sero, Whithe, Esther Abrami, John Gegelman, Tristan Barton, Jameson Nathan Jones.
Featured music by: The Cinematic Orchestra.  

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After a year break, Josh and team are back with dozens of new files, hours of new interviews, and a much bigger view of Keyes' and Kimberly's personal lives, and their implications on his crimes.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Kim K.

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Featured music by: The New Pornographers  

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True Crime Bullsh** returns March 21.

Written and produced by Josh Hallmark.

Featuring:
? Shana Wilensky
? Jordan Taylor
? Kim K.
? Kaz
? Michelle Tooker
* Josh & Dakota from Somewhere in the Pines

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Binge the rest of season one of Unsafe Spaces, at Unsafe Spaces: Tampa's Missing Men, wherever you listen to podcasts.

Scott Schweickert's house is searched, disturbing photos are found on Steven Lorenzo's computer, more Lorenzo assault victims come forward, someone confesses, and another gay man goes missing.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
With additional research by: Kaz

Featuring:
? Dr. Scott from LA Not So Confidential
? Drew Mackie from Gayest Episode Ever

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Music by: Evolving Scapes, Grisly Bill, Light in the Shadow, Hynogogia, Yehezkel Raz, and Yotam Agam
Featured music by: Chris Garneau

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Steven Lorenzo's friend and accomplice is identified as Scott Schweickert. And the pair's history is revealed through AOL instant messages and a mutual friend. Tampa PD investigate multiple assaults within the Tampa gay community, leading to an arrest and a second search warrant. And the relationship between Steven and Scott gets complicated.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
With additional research by: Kaz
Audio editing by: Darron Wood (The Defense Diaries podcast)

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Resources include:
? The Charlie Project
? NAMUS
? The Tampa Bay Times: Which one is the real Scott?
? Newspapers.com
? CNN.com
? Equity Florida Action, Inc

Music by: Yehezkel Rez, Circles, The Bows, Spiriturn, and Colour Book
Featured music by: Owen Pallett

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Steven Lorenzo comes to the forefront of Tampa PD's investigation into the disappearance of Jason Galehouse and the death of Michael Wachholtz. Lorenzo's criminal history leads to a sting operation that ends in a very haunting search of his home, and lists of some very important names.


This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
With additional research by: Kaz
Featuring: Jason Leroy (The Binge Movie Podcast)


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Resources include:
? The Charlie Project
? NAMUS
? Uncovered
? The Tampa Bay Times
? Newspapers.com
? The Albuquerque Journal
? Amnesty International


Music by: Yehezkel Rez, Yotam Agam, Theatre of Delays, Grisly Bill, and Benjamin Esterlis
Featured music by: Jacob Fossum

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Josh's other investigative true crime podcast, Unsafe Spaces, just wrapped its first season. Binge the first four episodes here and now, then head on over to Unsafe Spaces: Tampa's Missing Men to subscribe and binge the complete season.

On December 22, 2003, two gay men were reported missing to Tampa PD. The investigations into their disappearances, would open a Pandora's Box that would force the police, the media, and society to examine how their actions and negligence led to some of Florida's most sinister crimes.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kaz.
Featuring: Eric Schmidt and Dr. Scott (LA Not So Confidential).

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Resources include:
? The Charlie Project
? NAMUS
? Uncovered
? Clearwater Police Department
? The Tampa Bay Times: 1 2 3

Music by: Colour Book, Yehezkel Rez, Roniit, Raz Burg, Raz Burg, and Yotam Agam
Featured music by: Josef Salvat

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In March and April of 2023, Josh, most of the research team, Dr. Kunkle, Bobby Chacon, and others involved in True Crime Bullsh** filmed for several weeks for Sundance TV's True Crime Story: Citizen Detective. That episode, the season finale of the series, airs this Thursday on Sundance TV, and Friday on the Sundance TV streaming app.

Check out the preview now.

https://www.sundancetv.com/shows/true-crime-story-citizen-detective--1064212

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Unsafe Spaces is an investigative, serialized true crime podcast that explores the crimes that take place in the places we?re supposed to feel safest.

In Season One: Tampa?s Missing Men, I explore how two different missing persons cases, reported on the same day, opened a Pandora?s Box of unreported assaults, cold missing persons cases, ignored rapes, and unsolved murders within Florida?s gay community; and the two men who could be responsible for all of them. Not to mention cold cases of missing gay and murdered men in Georgia, Illinois, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and beyond.

Check out Unsafe Spaces: www.UnsafeSpacesPodcast.com

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The season finale.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Kim K.
And research assistance by: Andrew French and Kaz.
With special thanks to Jordan Taylor, Jessica Alihodzic, illian Natale, and Bridget LaMell.

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Featured music by: Heather Woods Broderick

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Elizabeth Weidner, Hallie Reed, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, Sarah King, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.




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In a new dump of documents from Anchorage PD, the research team finds new interviews with Keyes, new evidence photos, and a whole host of other new info that answers questions and begs new ones; not just in the Koenig case, but many of the most compelling cases we've looked into over the past five years of the show.

Next episode: April 27, 2023 / April 25 for Patreons at $4+

With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, and Michelle Tooker.
And research assistance by: Andrew French, Kaz, and Kim K.
With special thanks to Jordan Taylor, Jessica Alihodzic, and Jillian Natale

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Music by: William Hellfire, Yehezkel Rez, Sergey Cheremisinov, Radical Face, Lee Rosevere, Raz Burg, and Yotam Agam
Featured music by: Emily Haines & The Soft Skeleton

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Elizabeth Weidner, Hallie Reed, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, Sarah King, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.




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In our investigation into the disappearance of Steven Earl Kraft Jr, we fill in some critical gaps in the Keyes timeline - which could have big implications. And then, we get some long-awaited documents.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Additional research by Jordan Taylor.
Research assistance by Shana Wilensky. This episode features Shana Wilensky

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Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Elizabeth Weidner, Hallie Reed, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, Sarah King, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Music by: William Hellfire, Yehezkel Rez, Sergey Cheremisinov, Radical Face, Aquartos, Itai Argaman, and pATCHES
Featured song: Electricity by Kashka

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Israel Keyes claims his philosophy on killing kids changed after the birth of his daughter. But what exactly does that mean? And what does it imply about his activities prior to 2002?

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Research assistance by Jordan Taylor

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Music by: William Hellfire and Yehezkel Rez
Featured song: Youth by Sarah Klang

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For the first time in 4 years, we return to Bloomington, Indiana to discuss new information regarding the cases of Israel Keyes and Lauren Spierer.

True Crime Bullsh** will return on March 23.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Research assistance by Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Ben Lamb, and Jordan Taylor

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Music by:
William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Itai Argaman, Oakfield, and Denhollander.
Featured song: Here Comes the Fire by Van Stee

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The Currier files take us to Wisconsin and the greater Midwest, where two new cases have strong circumstantial evidence, a tip potentially places Keyes in the right place at the right time, and new information leads us back to Indiana.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Additional research by: Shana Wilensky, Andrew French, and Michelle Tooker.
Research assistance by Ben Lamb and Kaz

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Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Resources:
? NAMUS
? The Charley Project
? Google Trends
? The Polk County Sheriff?s Department: https://www.facebook.com/PolkSO/videos/435511950380015/
? Wisconsin Missing Persons Advocacy, Inc: https://www.wimissing.org/post/rose-marie-bly-10-years-and-a-new-approach-from-police

Music by:
William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Sero, Yotam Agam, and Jordan Hatfield.
Featured song by Torres.













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A missing teen with a challenging childhood is largely ignored by local law enforcement. A lack of good information mixed with a lot of finger pointing only exacerbates an already troubled investigation. And three disappearances along a rural highway beg some serious questions about Keyes.

This episode was written and researched by Shana Wilensky.
With production, editing, and additional research by Josh Hallmark

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Music by:
Lowly, Pacific Northwest, Flight of the Inner Bird, and Open Sky
Featured song: Be Here by Andrew Word

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The Debra Feldman files from Hackensack PD were just 18 pages; but it only took one to make a massive impact and prove several long-standing speculations.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Research assistance by Ben Lamb, Shana Wilensky, Kaz, and Michelle Tooker

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Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dana Keith, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Resources:
? Bureau of Transportation Statistics: https://transtats.bts.gov/ONTIME/Departures.aspx
? NJ.com; A son's torment: Believing a serial killer strangled his mother: https://www.nj.com/bergen/2013/12/a_son_tormented_believing_serial_killer_israel_keyes_strangled_his_mother_matthew_feldman_struggles.html

Music by:

William Hellfire, Radical Face, Lee Rosevere, Sergey Cheremisinov, Whithe, and Dan Mayo.

Featured song: It's Not by Aimee Mann

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Four Washington state FOIA responses tell very different stories and provide new insights into old cases. And a fifth, long-awaited file drops a bomb in everyone's laps.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by Kaz.
Research assistance by Ben Lamb, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Andrew French, and Jordan Taylor

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:
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Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dana Keith, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.


Music by:

William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Sero, Tristan Barton, Yotam Agam, and Aquartos.

Featured song: Souls in Space by Elk City

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We analyze every missing person case from Washington and its surrounding states during Keyes pre-Alaska life. A small pool of just 27 compelling Keyes cases emerge; providing a refresh on previously discussed cases, dives into new ones, and a grim bottom line. This is just the jumping off point into the final fast-paced, dense, and surprising 9 episodes of the season.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Research assistance by Ben Lamb

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Resources:
The Charley Project, NAMUS, The Spokesman-Review, KIRO-7, and KJZZ-14.

Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dana Keith, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:

William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, The Bows, Mike Vignola, and Dan Mayo.

Featured song: Washington by Sarah Harmer

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When a mother of two mysteriously vanishes, all eyes focus on her estranged husband. But as the investigation progresses, another nearby, high-profile case diverts both police funding and media attention away.

This episode was written and researched by Michelle Tooker.
With production and editing by Josh Hallmark.

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Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dana Keith, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O?Leary, Kendall C, Kharisma R, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boulukos, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:
Roniit, Dan Mayo, Yehezkal Rez, Sean Williams, The David Roy Collective, and We Dream of Eden

Featured song: Moon Mother by Richard Ferrell & Zephyr Gold

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A ten-year-old girl's Washington state disappearance draws some striking similarities to statements Keyes made and his known MO. A long line of potential suspects, evidence found over a hundred miles away, and her appearance on Keyes's computer muddle an investigation already hindered by a severe lack of evidence.

TCB is on its holiday/mid-season break. New episodes will return on January 12.

This episode was written and researched by Shana Wilensky.
With production, editing, and additional research by Josh Hallmark.

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Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dana Keith, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O?Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boulukos, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:
Buddha Kid, Sergey Cheremisinov, Aija Alsina, DJ Taz Rashid, Roniit, Boreis, Dear Gravity with We DReam of Eden, and Kyle Preston
Featured song: You're Never Coming Back by Caysan Renshaw

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We return to Olympia and the disappearance of Jon Corey. We examine similarities between his disappearance and Keyes' MO and life at the time, along with similarities to the murder of a different serial killer.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Additional research by Kaz.
Research assistance by Ben Lamb, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Andrew French.

This episodes features: Dr. Chris Kunkle

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Music by:

William Hellfire, Palm Blue, Nobou, John Gegelman, Radical Face, Oakfield, and Josh McCausland.

Featured song: Swallow by Ben Reneer

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An assortment of strange coincidences and odd circumstances take Josh and the research team to Olympia, Washington where the disappearance of Jonathan Corey completely baffles everyone.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Additional research by Kaz.
Research assistance by Ben Lamb, Shana Wilensky, and Michelle Tooker.

This episodes features: Brian Burke.

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Resources:

? The Audobon Society | https://www.audubon.org/important-bird-areas/eld-inlet-mud-bay#:~:text=About%2080%20percent%20of%20the%20inlet%20is%20less%20than%2010%20meters%20deep.

? Tidal Currents of Puget Sound by Starpath Publishing

Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dana Keith, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:

William Hellfire, Onyx Music, Sonic Yard, Itai Argaman, Whithe, Yehezkel Rez, Sergey Cheremisinov, Jameson Nathan Jones.

Featured song: The Beach House by Space Doves

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In this discussion on producing long-form true crime podcasts, we dive into the Keyes case, James Baysinger's work on the Hide + Seek podcast, what goes into these productions, and the overall personal and case impacts.
Panel: Josh Hallmark & James Baysinger
Moderator: Ken Bator, Podcast Magazine

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We revisit the Oregon coast to take a second look at the disappearance of Kami Vollendroff and Gene Hyatt, and discuss the case with Kami's cousin and best friend. Then we head north to Olympia, to start a deep-dive into a very similar case with eerie ties to Israel Keyes.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Research assistant by Ben Lamb, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Andrew French, Kim K, and Kaz.
This episodes features: Shelly Skelton and Emilee Rutten.

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Resources:

? You?re Wrong About: Wayfair and Human Trafficking Statistics | https://www.buzzsprout.com/1112270/4927280-wayfair-and-human-trafficking-statistics
? You?re Wrong About: Human Trafficking | https://www.buzzsprout.com/1112270/3883928-human-trafficking
? Tri-County Times: How sex trafficking actually happens | https://www.tctimes.com/news/how-sex-trafficking-actually-happens-sixty-two-percent-of-victims-fall-prey-to-what-police/article_b31a57ea-cbc7-11e7-ad2c-2b1536903b57.html

Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dana Keith, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:

William Hellfire, Lee Rosevere, David James Terry, Jameson Nathan Jones, Itai Argaman, Aquartos, Eleven Tales, Sergey Cheremisinov, James Forest.

Featured song: Edge of the Ocean by IVY

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An old story from a new perspective gives Josh and the team new information, new leads, and credence to many of their theories and investigative paths.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by Ben Lamb and Kaz.

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Resources:

? The News & Observer: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article268138027.html

Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dana Keith, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:

William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Whithe, and Amulets.

Featured song: Down in a Rabbit Hole by Bright Eyes

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New files, new audio, a new source, new partnerships, and a trek out to the Olympic Peninsula heat up the investigation into Israel Keyes.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by Ben Lamb and Kaz.

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Resources:
? The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jan/16/bring-up-the-bodies-gene-sandy-ralston-drowning-victims-sonar

Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dana Keith, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:

William Hellfire, Radical Face, Lee Rosevere, Sergey Cheremisinov, Beneath the Mountain, Yehezkal Raz, Eleven Tales, Sero, Jameson Nathan Jones, Itai Argaman, and John Gegelman

Featured song: All Mirrors by Angel Olsen

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Season 5 premieres on October 27.

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A reunion between long-lost friends ends in multiple homicides and disappearances spanning a 3,500 mile roadtrip.

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This episode was written and researched by Michelle Tooker.
With production, editing, and additional research by Josh Hallmark.

Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dana Keith, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O?Leary, Kendall C, Kharisma R, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Maegan, Manolis Boulukos, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:
Buddha Kid, Borrtex, and Yehezkal Rez
Featured song: Daughter by Ben Noble

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