Sarah teams up with writer and editor Julie Kliegman?author of the hotly anticipated book MIND GAME?to look back at tennis's Battle of the Sexes, between Billie Jean King and Bobby Riggs (aka the Libber and the Lobber). No pigs were harmed in the making of this episode or in the Houston Astrodome on September 20, 1973.

You can find Julie (and MIND GAME) online here. 

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The Exorcist turns 50 this week, so we invited Marlena Williams, author of Night Mother: A Personal and Cultural History of the Exorcist, to come tell us about the little possession movie that changed America forever. Was the set cursed by Satan himself, or plain old 70s misogyny? What makes a country going through a cultural upheaval embrace stories about the Devil? And?the most critical question of all?do Ouija boards really cause possession? 

You can find Marlena online here.
You can buy the book here.

This episode was produced by Carolyn Kendrick.

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?The creatures outside looked from influencer to human, and from human to influencer, and from human to influencer again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.?

Taylor Lorenz, author of Extremely Online, takes Sarah on a horror- and nostalgia-filled ride through the last twenty years of internet history. Then we try to make sense of what our internet future will be. 

You can find Taylor online here.

This episode was produced by Carolyn Kendrick.

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Mulder and Scully were busy this week, so Monroe and Marshall are on the case. Did UFOs really travel across the galaxy to experiment on American cows in the 1970s? And if so, why did they come back after fifty years?

You can find Rachel online here.
This episode was produced by Carolyn Kendrick.

Links:

UFOs and a Horse Called Snippy
Mutilations of Cattle In Texas, Oklahoma Called Work of Cults
Six Cattle Found Dead in Texas With Their Tongues Missing
"UFO Secrecy extends to NASA; cattle mutilations confuse authorities"

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https://history.denverlibrary.org/news/western-history/ufos-and-horse-called-snippy
https://www.nytimes.com/1975/03/02/archives/mutilations-of-cattle-in-texas-oklahoma-called-work-of-cults.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/22/us/cattle-deaths-texas.htm
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This week, celebrity correspondent Eve Lindley tells Sarah about why we should all be thankful for Amy Winehouse. Note: this episode depicts struggles with eating disorders, addiction and self harm. Please listen with care. We are thankful for you, too.

You can find Eve on Instagram here.

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This week, American Hysteria?s Chelsey Weber-Smith gives Sarah some exposure therapy.

You can find Chelsey / American Hysteria here.

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Come one, come all to the Aladdin theater in Portland, Oregon this December 6, for a collaboration with our BFF podcast American Hysteria!

Two podcasts combine mystical forces to summon strange spirits and investigate sensational otherworldly beliefs, conjuring comedy and witchy rock and roll to create our own new rituals and shake off the ghostly chains of the past year. Join Sarah Marshall and Chelsey Weber-Smith fireside for an evening of conversation, music, and a massive séance that we hope will bring us back to life.

Tickets are on sale NOW for Patreon and Apple Subscription supporters, Friday for everybody else!

Forty whacks with a wet noodle, Bart! This week, Princess Weekes tells Sarah the true story of the crime of the century? the nineteenth century, that is.

You can find Princess on YouTube here.

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"What is it about the culture that has conditioned us to favor the wants and needs and desires, however horrible, of a serial murderer, as opposed to--most often--the women and girls that they harmed and killed?" This week, Sarah Weinman takes us on a backpacking trip through true crime history and American pop culture, and tells us about the myths and realities of criminal profiling?and why they're sometimes so hard to pull apart. And finally, we ask the ultimate taboo question: are serial killers boring?

You can find Sarah's newsletter here.

Articles discussed:

The Case of the Fake Sherlock
What lies beneath: the secrets of France?s top serial killer expert

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https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/richard-walter-criminal-profiler-fraud.html
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/nov/09/secrets-of-top-serial-killer-expert-france-stephane-bourgoin
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Here's one from our bonus vault: you sent in your stories about moments when you found yourselves changing your minds, and we listened. When do we do it? Why do we do it? What does it take? Here are some of your answers.

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Like so many other mostly imaginary topics, human trafficking is in the news again. Michael Hobbes?ever heard of him???came by so Sarah could tell him about Sound of Freedom, a surprise hit summer movie that promises it can end child slavery, but only if you buy as many tickets as you can. Then, you can hear the episode we released on "human trafficking"?what it isn't, and what it is?back in 2019. 

You can find Mike's shows here:

Maintenance Phase
If Books Could Kill

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This week, Heather Radke brings us a tale of pageants, eugenics, and butts.

You can find Heather online here.

You can see Norma/Norman here.

More on the Better Babies Pageants. 

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This week, Sarah tells her favorite kind of story to American Hysteria?s Chelsey Weber-Smith: one where two girls hoaxed the world without trying very hard.

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Buy ?Lullaby? on Bandcamp here. 

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?Why don?t something happen?? Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow died in 1934, but their legend gets bigger every year. This week, Jamie Loftus brings us back to reality with a tale of prison breaks, FBI malfeasance, love, guitars, and hot dog breakfasts.

You can find Jamie online here. 

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This week, we bring you a re-release from our bonus vault as Sarah tells Carolyn Kendrick about the making of Fleetwood Mac?s Rumours. We learn about the worlds of songwriting and production, how the music business has changed since the 1970?s, and of course all the interpersonal relationships that make us love to love this band.

We will be back next week with a new episode.

You can find Carolyn online here. 

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This week, Sports Illustrated?s Julie Kliegman volleys with Sarah about trans athlete Renée Richards?s fight for her right to play in the U.S. Open. They also dig into how the dialogue surrounding trans athletes has and hasn?t changed in the 40-plus years since. Plus, are tennis balls hollow? An investigation.

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Fly with us, lesbian seagull. This week Radiolab?s Lulu Miller brings us a story of queer nature and scientists in denial, featuring seagulls, penguins, rams, swans, dolphins, and?maybe the gayest animal of all?humans.

To learn more about the seagulls, and hear much more of Lulu?s story, check out Radiolab?s amazing new episode.

You can find Lulu on Twitter here. 

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?I felt that empathy like it was directed towards me, and it helped me feel like my unhappiness was enough.? On our fifth anniversary, we asked for your stories about what You?re Wrong About has meant to you. Here they are.

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?What if you were writing a profile on someone named Janet and I was your editor, and I was like, ?I?m sorry, for balance, find someone who wants to kill Janet??? This week, Tuck Woodstock, host of Gender Reveal, takes us on a journey through the New York Times? coverage of trans issues?and in the end, he points the way to a better future.

You can find Tuck / Gender Reveal online here.

You can find an episode transcript along with citations here.

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100% of profit generated via Patreon and Apple Podcast Subscriptions between May 15 - May 31, 2023 will be split between the following organizations:

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Southern Trans Youth Emergency Project
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Black Trans Women Inc
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You?re Wrong About is five years old, and we want to hear your stories about the show!

Listen here for details, and submit your file to [email protected]

 In 1988, twenty-year-old American figure skater Debi Thomas headed to the Calgary Olympics to face off against East German juggernaut Katarina Witt. In the process, she became the first Black American in history to medal at a Winter Olympics. Then she disappeared from the sport. Where did she go, and who wasn?t there to catch her when she fell? This week, Leslie Gray Streeter tells Sarah about growing up watching Debi skate, where she is now, how her sport and her country failed her, and just how many people are missing from the stories we tell and the dreams we dream.

You can find Leslie online here. 

Debi returns to the ice

Debi cover of TIME

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This week, we fight the real enemy with Allyson McCabe.
 
Here's where to find Allyson online here.

You can find Allyson's book Why Sinéad O'Connor Matters here.

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This week, national treasure Amanda Knox talks with Sarah about what the American legal system claims to be for, what it?s actually doing, and what might be possible in the future. They entertain the most heretical ideas they can think of, which mostly seem to be about unconditional love and mercy. And at the end, Sarah?s ghost boyfriend Clarence Darrow turns up.
 
Here's where to find Amanda:

Labyrinths (podcast)

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This week, criminal justice correspondent Josie Duffy Rice dives into America?s obsession with prosecuting children. From 19th century houses of refuge to modern day detention centers, we comb through the tangled braids of juvenile incarceration, tough on crime fallacies, as well as criminality and its dark shadow of capitalism. Please take care while listening. 

Side bars include ice cream boats, Ronald Reagan, and Leonardo DiCaprio?s dating range.

Here's where to find Josie:

Website
Substack
Unreformed: The Story of the Alabama Industrial School for Negro Childre

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This week, survival correspondent Blair Braverman tells Sarah the story of a Supertramp. In 1996, Jon Krakauer's book Into the Wild described a young man, Chris McCandless, who changed his name, walked into the Alaskan bush, and died after mistakenly eating a toxic plant. Or did he? Now, Sarah and Blair talk about the McCandless archive and its legacy in conversations around wilderness, Alaska, violence, and more.

Here's where to find Blair:

Website
Patreon
Twitter
Small Game [book]

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You're Wrong About is going back on tour! We're doing a bunch of live shows in North America?me, producer and musician Carolyn Kendrick, and some fabulous guests?and we hope you come think about some stuff, and also that you laugh.

Doing the four shows we did last September was the highlight of my year, nay, my post-2019 life. And just being in a room with some of the people who make this show possible means so much to me. I hope you can come!

You can find all the links you need to buy tickets for each venue on this page. Tickets go on sale Friday!

https://linktr.ee/ywapod

And here are our dates and cities:

We can't wait to see you.

Yours,
Sarah

This week, a tale of two Shawns/Seans, their impossible dream, and the file sharing service that lived fast, died young, and helped create the internet as we know it. Plus, Metallica.

Here's where to find Niko:

Website
Newsletter
Twitter

Resources cited in the show introduction:

The Racial Roots Behind the Term "Nappy" on NPR's Code Switch
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2019/08/09/412886884/the-racial-roots-behind-the-term-nappy

The Complex History and Politicization of Black Hair in America, presented by Danielle Harvey
https://kisaradio.org/podcast-feature-the-complex-history-and-politicization-of-black-hair-in-america-presented-by-danielle-harvey/

Coiled by Leanne Aile
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/coiled/id1585408648

"The Other N-Word" by Shalwah Evans
https://www.essence.com/feature/is-nappy-negative-or-black-hair-empowerment/

"How Natural Black Hair at Work Became a Civil Rights Issue" by Chanté Griffin
https://daily.jstor.org/how-natural-black-hair-at-work-became-a-civil-rights-issue/

"The Natural Hair Movement" by Kamina Wilkerson
https://radar.auctr.edu/islandora/object/continuum:0001.008

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In this episode, Carolyn and Sarah follow Karen from the height of her fame through her struggle to find independence, her attempts at eating disorder recovery, and finally to her death on February 4, 1983, when she was just 32 years old. Then it's time to sing a song.

We extensively discuss eating disorders, disordered eating, and everything that goes with them in this episode. Please listen with care.

Additional CW: At 01:21:18 we use a term that evokes suicidal imagery. It is okay to pick back up at 01:21:21.

If you want to learn more, try Little Girl Blue by Randy L. Schmidt, our primary source for the information in this episode. 

Little Girl Blue: The Life of Karen Carpenter - Randy L. Schmidt - Google Books

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Join us for a Valentine's Day live stream, presented by Moment.

We'll be joined by Jamie Loftus and we'll be serenaded by Carolyn Kendrick. It's a You're Wrong About Valentine's Day Variety Show.

February 14th
5 PM Pacific, 8 PM Eastern, 9:30 PM Newfoundland

Tickets are $10, or $15 if you want to stick around for a Q & A.

https://www.moment.co/yourewrongabout

Patreon and Apple Podcast Subscription supporters, keep an eye out for a 20% discount code.  

Extry! Extry! New podcast by Josie Duffy Rice!

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In 1968, five Black girls escaped from the Alabama Industrial School for Negro Children, a so-called ?reform school? outside of Montgomery, Alabama. These girls were not the first children to run away from the institution, which everyone called Mt. Meigs. Children tried to escape all the time, desperate to get away from a place described by many as a child?s prison. But this time was different. This time, a girl named Mary Stephens chose to tell someone her story. It was a decision that would change everything.

Unreformed: The Story of the Alabama Industrial School for Negro Children, hosted by Josie Duffy Rice, is an investigative podcast chronicling the history of Mt. Meigs, an institution that began as a safe haven for black youth before mutating into a ?modern-day slave plantation? rife with torture and abuse. It tells the story of the man who decided to blow the whistle on the corruption and brutality that flourished at Mt. Meigs, and the repercussions he suffered as a result. And it traces the histories of the now-adults who were trapped there as children in the 1960

https://www.iheartmedia.com/press/iheartpodcasts-and-school-humans-announce-unreformed-story-alabama-industrial-school-negro

Long ago and oh so far away, Carolyn and Sarah fell in love with Karen Carpenter when they saw her drum. We examine her meteoric rise. 

CONTENT WARNING: Karen Carpenter died in 1983 of complications from an eating disorder. Most of our eating disorder discussion will take place in Part II, but we never quite get away from the topic here either. Please listen with care.

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On October 14, 1987, 18-month-old Jessica McClure fell down a well in Midland, Texas. This week, Sarah tells our survival correspondent, Blair Braverman, about the community that worked to rescue her, and the nation that watched.

Here's where to find Blair:

Website
Twitter
Small Game [book]

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https://www.harpercollins.com/products/small-game-blair-braverman?variant=40090251100194
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They?re winsome and soft and so fun to cuddle/ With one of Ty?s Beanie Babies, you could never go wrong/ But they were all born from a toxic puddle/ It really was capitalism all along.

This week, Jamie Loftus tells us the story of the greatest toy fad of the 90s, and liberates us from our tiny plastic boxes.
 
Here's where to find Jamie:

Jamie's Website

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Put on your Docksiders for a stroll through history with Avery Trufelman, who shows us how Ivy style became ?preppy,? and how preppy fashion escaped the campus and took over the world. We?re talking about clothing, class, race, and the American dream: you may be through with the polo shirt, but the polo shirt isn?t through with you.

Here's where to find Avery:

Articles of Interest on Substack
Articles of Interest podcast

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How did Poltergeist get that PG rating? Podcast legend Karina Longworth, host of You Must Remember This, takes us on a wild ride through a century or so of Hollywood history, and shows us what?s been left on the cutting room floor.

Here's where to find Karina:

Website
You Must Remember This

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Our survival correspondent Blair Braverman is here to tell us the story of Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571, which crashed in the Andes on October 13, 1972. Of the 45 people on board, 16 ultimately lived. Their survival made them heroes, until the way they survived shocked the world. This week, a story of glaciers, peanuts, and friendship.

Here's where to find Blair:

Website
Twitter
Small Game [book]

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https://www.harpercollins.com/products/small-game-blair-braverman?variant=40090251100194
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?Abortion is healthcare and abortion is a human right. Abortion is racial justice. It?s economic justice. It?s at the intersection of every movement towards liberation. My abortion was a gift.? 

We asked you to share your abortion stories with us. Here they are. 

Contribute to the National Network of Abortion Funds here:

https://abortionfunds.org/donate/

What to do if you need an abortion:

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/abortion

If you need help paying for an abortion:

 https://abortionfunds.org/need-abortion/

Shout Your Abortion is normalizing abortion and elevating safe paths to access, regardless of legality. SYA makes resources, campaigns, and media intended to arm existing activists, create new ones, and foster collective participation in abortion access all over the country.

https://shoutyourabortion.com/

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https://abortionfunds.org/need-abortion/
https://shoutyourabortion.com/
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Why is it so hard to find the one thing you need? The Atlantic?s Amanda Mull is here to tell us the story of shopping, from the Silk Road to SHEIN hauls, and the story that emerges is one of workers turned against each other, and industrial byproducts reinvented as trends. 

Here's where to find Amanda:

The Atlantic
Twitter

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Links:

https://www.theatlantic.com/author/amanda-mull/
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https://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-about
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This week, Mike and Sarah reunite to hunt for serial killers, and try to figure out whether they?re really endangered. Digressions include crow funerals, Carrie Bradshaw, and how we feel about being called mom and dad.

An extended cut of this episode is also available for Patreon supporters and Apple + Podcast subscribers. 

Here's where to find Mike:

Newsletter
Twitter
Maintenance Phase 

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Links:

https://michaelhobbes.substack.com/
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https://www.maintenancephase.com/
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You may:

1. Travel on the established trail
2. Take the Hastings Cutoff

What is your choice?

Chelsey Weber-Smith (American Hysteria) tells Sarah about the Donner Party. 

Here's where to find Chelsey:

Website
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Links:

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This week we?re taking the back roads with Rachel Monroe, who tells us how the most prolific serial killer in American history may have been something much more ordinary?and why we keep trying to make violent men seem much more powerful than they are. Digressions include Ann Rule, career burnout, and tires for serial killers.

Here's where to find Rachel:

Website
Twitter

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Links:

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Here?s some money, go see a Porn War. This week we?re going on a field trip to Times Square with Nona Willis Aronowitz, author of Bad Sex, to learn about Deep Throat, ?porno chic,? and the unresolved feminist battle over whether to eradicate pornography or make more of it. Digressions include Carol Clover, this discovery of the clitoris, and Harry Reems (Joel Reems? distant cousin).

Here's where to find Nona:

Website
Bad Sex (book)

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Links:

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This week, Eric Michael Garcia tells Sarah about America?s barely forgotten pastime, plus the Supreme Court?s long history of horrifying decisions. Digressions include due process, The Evil Dead, and what Hitler admired about the United States.

Here's where Eric:

Website
We're Not Broken: Changing the Autism Conversation

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Episode Resources:

https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/the-forgotten-lessons-of-the-american-eugenics-movement

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/reckoning-with-our-mistakes/

http://eugenicsarchive.ca/discover/tree/512fa0d334c5399e2c000005#:~:text=Kellogg%20was%20a%20vocal%20eugenicist,hygiene%20(Kellogg%2C%201913)

https://allthatsinteresting.com/john-harvey-kellogg

http://www.eugenicsarchive.org/html/eugenics/static/images/1013.html

https://www.oyez.org/cases/1900-1940/274us200

https://eugenicsarchive.ca/discover/connections/530ba18176f0db569b00001b

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/04/adam-serwer-madison-grant-white-nationalism/583258/

Links:

http://www.ericmgarcia.net/
http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout
http://apple.co/ywa
https://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-about
https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpod
https://www.podpage.com/you-are-good
http://maintenancephase.com

This is a super quick message to let you know we'll be having a You're Wrong About West Coast mini tour in September.

We'll be going to Portland on 9/16, Seattle (9/18), Los Angeles (9/20) and San Francisco (9/22).

There will be music and guests, and if it goes well we may do more of these in more cities.

I am letting you know in this quick announcement because tickets go on sale this Friday and they are first come, first served. But! There will be a one day pre-sale for our Patreon and Apple Plus supporters on Wednesday July 13th.

Here are the links to each show. 

https://event.etix.com/ticket/online/performanceSale.do?performance_id=4988321&method=restoreToken

https://www.seetickets.us/event/YOURE-WRONG-ABOUT-The-Vera-Project/493552

https://www.ticketweb.com/event/youre-wrong-about-the-masonic-lodge-at-hollywood-tickets/12269765?pl=HF

https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C005CE90C3A54C6

Patron:

https://www.patreon.com/yourewrongabout

Apple Plus: 

http://apple.co/ywa

I hope to see you there! 

Sarah and Carmen complete their epic trilogy by meeting Rick Emerson on the edge of Mount Doom to discuss his book, Unmask Alice, and some of the story behind the diary that has captivated America?and informed its drug policy?for half a century. Digressions include multi-level marketing, Oceans Eleven, the Great Salt Lake.

You can hear Part 1 here and Part 2 here.

Here's where to find Rick and his book Unmask Alice: LSD, Satanic Panic, and the Imposter Behind the World's Most Notorious Diaries:

Website

Here's where to find Carmen:

Website

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Links:

https://carmenmariamachado.com/
http://www.rickemerson.com/
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This week Carmen and Sarah read the rest of Alice?s bitchin' diary, and ponder the truths that only lies can tell. Digressions include Pamela and Clarissa, sadistic switch hitters, and orange yeast rolls.

You can hear Part 1 here and Part 3 here. 

Here's where to find Carmen:

Website

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This week we?re dishing up a mouthwatering feast of history, gossip, and white collar crime. Guest Sarah Archer tells the tale of Martha Stewart, a girl from New Jersey who achieved world domination by letting us look at her basket collection. Digressions include prairie dresses, condensed soups, and how to tell if your tween is reading Sunset Magazine.

Some Notes:

Here's where to find Sarah Archer:

Website
Twitter

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Links:

https://www.sarah-archer.com/
https://twitter.com/Sarcher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI7hGjIwRsY
https://youtu.be/6ko8WoHhmTc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtZ2SZyJhgA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ocre0kXgvg
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb5uPYlpZK7/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb5uPYlpZK7/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb5u2hqpHzW/
https://youtu.be/y8jAtLBF_Lk
https://youtu.be/Yme4gdvYi3U
https://youtu.be/lKh2IkbCbQo

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This week, Sarah tries to solve the mystery of the Dyatlov Pass Incident, in which nine experienced ski hikers fled their shelter and ran into the frigid night for reasons unknown. Digressions include yetis, snowmobiles, and Rachel Monroe. Sarah miraculous does not sing Rilo Kiley?s ?Portions for Foxes.?

Some Notes:

Here's where to find Blair:

Website
Twitter

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Links:

https://www.blairbraverman.com/
https://twitter.com/blairbraverman
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/05/17/has-an-old-soviet-mystery-at-last-been-solved
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/SoLiOdJyCK/mystery_of_dyatlov_pass
https://www.cracked.com/article_16671_6-famous-unsolved-mysteries-with-really-obvious-solutions.html
https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-022-00393-x?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=commission_junction&utm_campaign=CONR_PF018_ECOM_GL_PHSS_ALWYS_PRODUCT&utm_content=textlink&utm_term=PID100094349&CJEVENT=89eb6401bf5311ec83a802f70a82b824
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/02/russia-dyatlov-pass-conspiracy-theory/605863/
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/02/russia-dyatlov-pass-conspiracy-theory/605863/
http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout
https://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-about
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https://www.podpage.com/you-are-good
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Where did all these prisons come from? WBEZ?s Shannon Heffernan is here to give us part of the answer, which involves ?small government? (of course), Lennie Briscoe (as always), the pink flowers of Alcatraz, and a prison sweepstakes that produced the actual worst song of the 80s.

Two quick corrections via Shannon:

"I said Illinois has potential plans to shrink one prison and close another. That was an error. Both plans are about shrinking facilities.  I said CO's have a life expectancy of 56 years, the stat I meant to quote is 59 but since our interview, I discovered that statistic (and the stat about divorce) to be from studies/sources that are considered very weak so I've stopped using them."

Here's where to find Shannon:

Website
Twitter
Motive (podcast)

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Links:

https://www.wbez.org/staff/288/shannon-heffernan
https://twitter.com/shannon_h
https://www.wbez.org/shows/motive/8c9f445c-4f62-46d6-a7f6-dc70a835e99b
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