Listeners tell Doree and Elise about great dinner recipe ideas for when you're in a dinner rut, their 5 year pandemic anniversary reflections, and how the past discussion on perfectionism resonated with them.

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Celebrity makeup artist Rachel Goodwin is back to share how to keep your concealer from moving too much, how to decide which makeup brush to use, where to apply blush, how to create a beautiful natural glow with makeup, and much more!

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Listeners call in to ask Doree and Elise more friendship month questions (keep ?em coming!), the convo continues on what it means to learn new skills at mid-life, and why we all love Walter Goggins. 

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Doree and Elise speak with Nichole Hill, the award-winning showrunner, audio producer and creator of the independent podcast Our Ancestors Were Messy. They discuss the history of Black newspapers, the lasting power of written gossip, why some of Nichole?s best memories of her dad are as a passenger in his car, and the reminder that it?s okay to be frivolous and romantic AND contribute to change.

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Elise spontaneously goes to a K-pop concert and Doree has a lovely night in with a Walton Goggins show. They hear from listeners about diving deep into the back catalog of your favorite podcasts, hair products to help with hair loss, friends flaking at the last minute, and a message for the AI-curious.

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Doree and Elise reflect on the five-year anniversary of Covid lockdown. Then, they invite Ash Perez (former BuzzFeed video star and current 2nd Try cast member) on to talk about his relationship to his father and masculinity, what his journey has taught him about the performance of gender, how he decides what information to share publicly and what to keep private, and what he?s doing to make sense of the news right now. 

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Dor and E hear from listeners about their takeaways from friendship month (both the positive and the negative), why reaching out for connection is always a good thing, and therapy for therapists.

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Doree and Elise speak with Olga Khazan, Atlantic writer and author of Me, But Better: The Science and Promise of Personality Change about how much of your personality is fixed vs changeable, the underrated but life-changing value of niceness, and a mindset shift to deal with the tumultuous times we?re living in.

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Doree and Elise hear from listeners about something deep in the archives of Forever35, get more chocolate chip cookie recipes, a candle rec for clean-but-not-soapy- scented candles, and they take on some lingering friendship questions.

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It?s the finale of friendship month, and Doree and Elise speak with return friendship expert Dr. Marisa Franco (author of Platonic: How the Science of Attachment Can Help You Make--and Keep--Friends).

They discuss how as you get older you raise the bar for friendship and focus on quality over quantity, giving your friends the chance to say ?no? to you, navigating turmoil in your friendships by starting with curiosity, and why your friendships will really blossom when you stop predicting and start experiencing.

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Modern Friendship author Anna Goldfarb returns to answer your questions about friendship! Anna discusses how to nurture old friendships, how to make ?hanging out? more compelling, being careful about tallying ?you vs them,? and more.

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Doree and Elise speak with Kasley Killam, a leading expert in social health and author of The Art and Science of Connection: Why Social Health is the Missing Key to Living Longer, Healthier, and Happier. They discuss how an experiment in acts of kindness led to a lifelong interest in studying relationship building, how to balance being an introvert with your social health, why your social health and level of connection isn't constant (in a good way), and how to use a shared experience to build connection.

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Doree and Elise answer listener questions about Elise?s new TED Talk and discuss Doree?s new advice column with Slate. And they share a special voice note from Elise?s daughter to answer a listener question about tween style!

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Elise prepares for her birthday weekend in Mexico City and Doree witnesses the perils of rain in LA! Then, they invite Rhaina Cohen, author of The Other Significant Others, on to discuss why prioritizing friendship doesn?t mean being anti-marriage, the power of ?just ask? in building your relationship with new and old friends, the balance of showing up for and leaning on your friends, and how to more actively invest in existing friendships and cultivate new ones.

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Doree and Elise kick off friend week with an IRL hang (!) and talk about Elise?s coming birthday vacation and Doree?s recent Korean spa trip. Then, they hear from listeners about the environmental harms of chat GPT, delicious single serve chocolate chip cookie recipes, how to channel your nervous energy into action, and a non-food rec for Sam?s Club.

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Friendship Month kicks off with Anna Goldfarb, author of Modern Friendship: How to Nurture Our Most Valued Connections.

Anna joins Doree and Elise to talk about what a wholehearted friendship means, how to determine the ?about? of your friendships, why it?s okay for your friendships to remain more fluid as you become an adult, and how it?s okay to grow into (and out of) friendships gracefully. 

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Listeners send Doree and Elise their news sources, how they?re keeping busy and proactive, drugstore skincare recs for the winter, and updates on Trader Joe?s. 

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Doree and Elise invite ex-Normal Gossip host Kelsey McKinney on to discuss her new book You Didn?t Hear This From Me: (Mostly) True Notes on Gossip, how understanding gossip is connected to Mean Girls, the Gaylor conspiracy and subculture, and the level of skepticism you should have based on the person you hear information from. 

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Doree and Elise share their trusted local and national news sources and hear from listeners about the pride of free mugging, the Apple Health app reminder hack, and the Sam?s Club Chick-Fil-A dupe.

This episode contains a sponsored segment by Bausch + Lomb. Visit Xiidra.com to learn more.

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Doree and Elise share the products that the young people in their life have influenced them to try. Then, they invite illustrator and writer Hallie Bateman on to discuss illustrating a book with her mother about getting through her divorce (What to Do When You Get Dumped), the joy of witnessing that immense emotional growth in her mom, what life is like as a working artist, being a mom of twins, and using wit and humor to get through darker times.

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Dor and Elise catch up before hearing from listeners with advice for last week?s listener looking for the next step in their career, another all-in-one Ninja product you need to know about, who?s free bowling what and where, and a call out for some Sam?s Club recs!

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Doree and Elise speak with University of Michigan Law School Professor and Strict Scrutiny podcaster Leah Litman about the incoming Trump Administration. She discusses how you don?t have to accept the inevitable, how you can politically ?gum up the works? of government as a form of resistance, the top three things to look out for as the Trump Administration takes over, and a solution to being involved when you only want to curl up in the fetal position.

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Doree and Elise discuss how to be a supportive sister as a new mom, the different ways being proud of yourself and feeling fulfilled can look as you age, and the staggering savings that pet insurance brought one listener. 

This episode contains a sponsored segment by Bausch + Lomb. Visit miebo.com to learn more.

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Doree and Elise welcome activist, digital advocate, and OG podcaster Bridget Todd (Stuff Mom Never Told You, There Are No Girls On The Internet) to the show to speak vulnerably about the daily success of just putting one foot in front of the other, caring deeply about the state of the internet, understanding that your algorithm can be a spiraling echo chamber, and why she?s bringing reading and hyperlocal positive stories back to her life in 2025.

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Doree and Elise return from the liminal period between holidays with helpful notes from listeners about pet insurance, a declutter calendar to edit your home, and the ingenious Ninja Foodi.

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From Taiwan travels and emergency NYE vet visits, to Hanukkah beginning on Christmas and sick partners, the end of 2024 left Doree and Elise with a lot to catch up on! They also discuss their goals for Forever35 in 2025, what you can look forward to hearing more of this year, and why January is probably the worst time to make resolutions.

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Hi friends! We are off this week and will be replaying some of our favorite Forever35 episodes from earlier this year. This week, Tressie McMillan Cottom!

Doree and Elise talk to celebrated cultural critic, sociologist, and award-winning writer Tressie McMillan Cottom, who brilliantly deconstructs everything from Ozempic and Oprah to Bama Rush ? and shows the interconnectedness of it all. 

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Hi friends! We are off this week and will be replaying some of our favorite Forever35 episodes from earlier this year. This week, Glynnis MacNicol!

Doree and Elise chat with return guest Glynnis MacNicol (author of I?m Mostly Here to Enjoy Myself) about learning to enjoy herself now instead of later, the nuances of deciding what fruit best embodies you on a Parisian dating app, and discovering at 46 that everything we?ve been taught about our bodies is a lie. 

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Doree and Elise hear from listeners about *that* Ninja Fryer, a music alternative to Spotify, how Elise hosts so many parties, and some great holiday Costco and Trader Joe?s recs.

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TW: This episode contains discussion about miscarriages.

Doree and Elise get ready to sign off for the end of the year before comedian and TV writer Jenny Yang joins them to discuss creating vision boards and journals after experiencing extreme burnout, the importance of having friends you can bounce your thoughts off of, and why feeling like you are part of a community is a form of resistance in America.

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Doree and Elise get an update from the listener who now regularly sees the free bowler. Then they talk through the practice of embracing ?microjoys,? or small pleasures, and take a walk down early aughts gadget memory lane before sharing a few more gift recs for the foodie and the kids in your life.

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Celebrity makeup artist Rachel Goodwin is back to answer your questions! Rachel takes on everything from which ?clean? products she recommends, how to best apply concealer under your eyes, and how to update your approach so you don?t look like you learned to wear makeup in the late 1900s. 

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Listeners share a jaw-dropping free-bowl sighting, divergent takes on the Trader Joe?s hair serum, and more midlife pivots with Doree and Elise. Plus, the romance author who called in last time unmasks themselves!

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For their final Midlife & Menopause Month episode, Dor & Elise interview Dr. Arianna Sholes-Douglas, author of The Menopause Myth: What Your Mother, Doctor, and Friends Haven?t Told You About Life After 35. They talk about how to approach a doctor about a discussion about perimenopause, the great (and some not-so-great) things to look out for in this transitionary period, and what?s really going on with hormone therapy.

We hope you enjoyed Midlife & Menopause Month! We?ll have more themed episodes coming in the new year.

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Dor & Elise present the Forever35 Gift Guide of 2024! From kitchen to kids and sports to travel, find the gifts for everyone on your list.

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Doree and Elise invite sex therapist and menopause expert Emily Nagoski on the pod to discuss why just breathing in and out is her current self-care, how to better understand what happens to our bodies during perimenopause, what to ask a doctor and when, and the importance of the lens with which you?re looking at your partner. 

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Doree and Elise get some clarity on which hair product to avoid and hear from listeners about the joy of the F35 archive and leaning into being nice to the people around you this season. 

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Midlife and menopause month continues with the witty and wise Caroline Paul. The adventurer and author encourages us to add outdoor adventure to our lives, whether its birding or boogie boarding, how the outdoors is really for all of us - not just rich white folks, and the power of upending a single belief and the force it holds over your life. Plus, Elise becomes ordained to perform a wedding ceremony and Doree has a satisfying aha moment.

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Doree and Elise chat about how Midlife & Menopause Month is going and hear from listeners about Elise?s ?Deck the Balls? party, making new Thanksgiving traditions, and a travel prod hack to make life easier.

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Doree and Elise hear from listeners about the joy of having a community in the wake of the election. Then, Reshma Saujani, founder of Girls Who Code and Moms First, joins them as part of their Midlife & Menopause series to talk about how she?s going through perimenopause, changing what authority and leadership looks and sounds like, the childcare crisis in the United States, and where women go from here. 

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Listeners write in looking for a dupe, some hot (but maybe not-so-hot?) takes about Costco, a comfy but classic shoe rec, and a useful tip for incorporating strength training into our every day lives.

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Doree and Elise recall previous elections and think about the election to come. Then, the Accidental Icon and author of How to Be Old:  Lessons in Living Boldly from the Accidental Icon Lyn Slater joins them to kick off the beginning of their November series Midlife & Menopause. They talk about the hard truth behind the anxiety of becoming invisible in society, how to use historical memory to contribute to an intergenerational friendship, using curiosity as a way to remain open, and what romance looks like later in life.

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Doree starts a hair loss regimen and Elise shares a TLC correction because she accidentally killed T-Boz. Plus, listeners call in with another dish towel rec, hot takes on shopping at Costco, how to take care of yourself during the pre-election times, and perhaps the most iconic voicemail we?ve ever received!

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The authors of Selling Sexy: Victoria's Secret and the Unraveling of an American Icon Lauren Sherman & Chantal Fernandez are both on the show to explore the golden age of retail and all their innovations, often led by mall brands Victoria Secret and Abercrombie & Fitch. They also chat about how the closure of malls affects our relationships to fashion, the legacy of Victoria?s Secret for women and especially millennials, and the ways consumption patterns are changing.

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Dor & E chat about the (possible?) effectiveness of a good vitamin, bringing in a puppy trainer, and whether a certain Trader Joe?s lunch item is worth cooking in the oven. They also hear from listeners about where to purchase the perfect comfy-but-still-cute-enough-for-a-dinner-out winter boot, the sphincter control of chickens, and the confidence gained from strength training.

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Doree and Elise mentally prepare for the election and invite Amanda Mull, senior reporter at Bloomberg covering the intersection of culture and commerce, to the pod to discuss writing about how people want to spend their money, what happens when the consumer system becomes visible in ways that we are not supposed to see, and the way that ?cool? has been flattened by the internet.

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Doree and Elise catch up on the music the kids are bringing back and hear from listeners about how to quietly show your support for Kamala, the scam of small puppies, the wonder of Costco clothes, and you sent in more dishtowel recs, so we share ?em.

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Doree and Elise welcome Meghan Keane (founder and managing producer for NPR's Life Kit) to the podcast to discuss the bad dates that helped inspire her book Party Of One, her Pomodoro technique for becoming comfortable with spending time alone, the importance of converting venting sessions into a problem-solving discussion, and how her skin is so glowy.

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It?s official! Elise is here to stay and we?ve got a new look to prove it! Doree and Elise chat through what the ?relaunch? means for the pod, and then they hear from listeners about how to support a struggling family member from afar, more tea towel recommendations, and the middle-aged strength training craze.

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Doree receives a nice surprise from her tennis team and Elise deals with potty training a puppy. Then, they invite urologist and sexual health expert Dr. Maria Uloko on to discuss the changing generational discourse around sex, the life-changing magic of letting go, and why menopause does not mean you have to suffer.

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