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The Indicator from Planet Money

A bite-sized show about big ideas. From the people who make Planet Money, The Indicator helps you make sense of what's happening in today's economy. It's a quick hit of insight into money, work, and business. Monday through Friday, in 10 minutes or less.

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Davos drama, credit card caps and tariff truths

It?s time for ? Indicators of the Week! Our weekly look at some of the most fascinating economic numbers from the news. 

On today?s episode: Why does Davos feel interesting this year? What if we did cap credit card interest rates? And we?re paying most of those tariffs, aren?t we?  

Also, big news! Planet Money wrote a book and we?re going on tour this spring. Find tickets and info at planetmoneybook.com

Related episodes: 

Trump's backup options for tariffs 

Globalization At Davos: What Happened? 

The carbon coin: A novel idea


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2026-01-23
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How beef climbed to the top of the food pyramid

Beef is back on top. Well, at least on top of Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.?s new food pyramid, unveiled alongside updated national dietary guidelines. Red meat really never left the great American menu. But how?d it climb all the way up there?

On today?s show, America?s storied love affair with beef. And how big business and government have long influenced what winds up on our plates.

Related episodes: 
Why beef prices are so high
Who?s buying all the beef?

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2026-01-22
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Is Greenland really an untapped land of riches?

President Donald Trump is dead set on acquiring Greenland, and while national security is the stated reason, the country?s untapped mineral wealth could offer another explanation. 

Today on the show: is Greenland really an untapped land of riches? We talk to one Australian geologist who discovered the great costs and potential rewards of extracting these minerals himself. 

Related episodes: 
Add to cart: Greenland 
Why Trump resurrected the Monroe Doctrine 

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2026-01-21
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Are U.S. defense contractors lavishing their investors too much?

In early January, President Donald Trump signed an executive order threatening bans on defense contractors paying dividends or buying their stock back.

Today on the show, we learn about the Trump Administration?s frustrations with the weapons supply chain, find out what a defense industry investor makes of the move, and ask whether this reflects the state tightening its grip on the industry that arms the U.S. military.

Related episodes: 
Are we overpaying for military equipment?
Can Just-In-Time handle a new era of war?
How to transform a war economy for peacetime

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2026-01-20
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ICE influencers, a world-record trade surplus, and the moon goes nuclear

Welcome back to Indicators of the Week! Our weekly look at some of the most fascinating economic numbers from the news. 

On today?s episode: Influencers for ICE, China?s tremendous trade surplus, and America heads back to the moon. 

Related episodes: 

We resolve to watch these 2026 indicators 

China's trade war perspective 

Who owns the moon?


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2026-01-16
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Why Trump resurrected the Monroe Doctrine

203 years ago, President James Monroe declared the Western Hemisphere off limits to powerful countries in Europe. Fast forward, and President Trump is reviving the Monroe Doctrine to justify intervening in places like Venezuela, and threatening further action in other parts of Latin America and Greenland. On today?s show, how is Trump redefining the Monroe Doctrine and what does it mean for the world?


Related episodes:
Add to cart: Greenland
Is the Panama Canal a rip-off?
Venezuela didn?t steal U.S. oil. Here?s what happened  
Can Europe stand without the U.S. 

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2026-01-15
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Can a good story change economic reality?

Economic decisions aren?t only driven by hard data. A compelling story can change economic behavior and outcomes. In today?s episode, we explore real-world examples of ?narrative economics? like how the Suez Canal ended up getting built. And we ask: why do narratives sometimes matter more than truth or data? 

Related episodes: 
This indicator hasn?t flashed this red since the dot-com bubble 
Tariffs. Consumer sentiment. Cape Ratio. Pick The Indicator of The Year! 
The Beigie Awards: Manufacturing takes center stage 

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2026-01-14
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One Fed battle after another

Over the weekend, Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell said the Department of Justice served the Fed with grand jury subpoenas. Powell says it?s all a sham. But the stakes are unprecedented: A potential criminal indictment. Central bank independence. Today on the show, the administration?s case against the Fed. How did we get here? And what comes next?

Related episodes: 
Lisa Cook and the fight for the Fed
Trump's unprecedented attack on the Fed  
A primer on the Federal Reserve's independence
Why Is The Fed So Boring?

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2026-01-13
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How far can philanthropy go to fill government gaps?

While Americans are known for their generosity, the U.S. government, increasingly, is not. The Trump administration?s cuts to SNAP benefits among other aid programs have forced states, foundations and donors to fill the gaps. But can they? On today?s show, the limits of philanthropic efforts to supplant federal aid. 

Related episodes: 
Why tech bros are trying to give away all their money (kind of) 

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2026-01-12
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How AI is shrinking the job market for teens

Karissa Tang is a 17-year-old in California who got curious about the impact of AI on typical teen jobs like cashiers and fast food counter workers. She embarked on an ambitious economic research project and shares her findings with us.

Related episodes: 
How much is AI actually affecting the workforce?
AI creates, transforms and destroys... jobs
When does youth employment become child labor?

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2026-01-09
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Venezuela didn't steal U.S. oil. Here's what happened

President Trump claims Venezuela stole American oil. Is that true? We trace Venezuela's oil industry from its 1920s birth through nationalization and then collapse. Today on the show, how did the Venezuelan oil industry get to a point where it?s barely pulling from its reserves? And will anything change now? 

Related episodes: 
Venezuela?s economic descent (Update) 
Venezuela?s recent economic history (Update) 
Why oil in Guyana could be a curse 

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2026-01-08
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Can you trust you're getting the same grocery prices as someone else?

When you're in a grocery store nowadays, chances are your data is being collected. From a swipe of the loyalty card to the purchase of an ice cream pint, your data tells stores what you like, how much they should stock, and more. 

But what if that data meant a grocer could charge you a different price than another shopper?

On today's show, the evolving price tag.  

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Should 'surveillance pricing' be banned? 

How Grocery Shelves Get Stacked 


How niche brands got into your local supermarket

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2026-01-07
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How cocaine smuggling through Latin America really works

Former Venezuelan leader, Nicolás Maduro, appeared in a New York court yesterday. He?s facing drug-trafficking and weapons charges after the U.S. abducted him and his wife in an explosive operation over the weekend. But is there any credibility to the drug-trafficking accusations? And what does the cocaine supply chain look like in 2026?

Today on the show, tracing cocaine?s journey from the Andes to the streets of U.S. cities.

Further reading: 
Ioan Grillo ? El Narco

Related episodes: 
Venezuela?s economic descent (Updated)
Why Are Venezuelans Starving?
Lessons from a former drug dealer

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2026-01-06
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Why China pulled the plug on Japan

Japan?s new prime minister Sanae Takaichi made waves last fall after saying her country might intervene if China invaded Taiwan. In response, China launched state-organized boycotts against Japan ? canceling concerts, restricting seafood imports, and even recalling pandas. Today on the show, what does it look like for a state to organize a boycott, and does it work? 

Related episodes:
How Japan?s new prime minister is jolting markets
When do boycotts work? 
Forging Taiwan's Silicon Shield 

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2026-01-05
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Venezuela?s economic descent (Updated)

At The Indicator, we?ve been following the conditions in Venezuela over the years. In 2024 we covered how Venezuela?s economy went into freefall, and have been checking in with an economist there frequently ? including after the U.S. attacked over the weekend, deposing its leader Nicolás Maduro.

On today?s show, we?re revisiting our episode about Venezuela?s economy, and hear from our contact in Caracas. 

Send us questions you?d like The Indicator to answer on future episodes about Venezuela: [email protected].

Related episodes: The Measure of a Tragedy Why are Venezuelans starving? An Economist in Caracas: Day In The Life 

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2026-01-03
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We resolve to watch these 2026 indicators

2025 is finally over. 

We had bad consumer sentiment vibes, tariffs, and a seemingly ascendant stock market. And those are just a few indicators from last year!  

As we enter 2026, what indicators should we keep an eye on ? in the future? On today?s episode, our top indicator predictions for the new year.

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What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

Tariffs. Consumer sentiment. Cape ratio. Pick the Indicator of the Year!

What indicators will 2025 bring? 

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2026-01-02
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Why Americans don't want to move for jobs anymore (Encore)

Americans are moving at record lows for work. What?s driving people to, well, not drive cross-country for jobs? On today?s episode, we explore the rising homebody economy. 

This episode originally aired Oct. 3, 2025. 

Related episodes: 
Why moms are leaving their paid jobs 
How the end of Roe is reshaping the medical workforce 

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2025-12-31
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Gilded Age 2.0? (Encore)

To hear President Trump tell it, the late 1800s, i.e. the Gilded Age, were a period of unparalleled wealth and prosperity in the U.S. But this era was also marked by corruption and wealth inequality. Sound familiar? On today's show, is history repeating itself?

This episode originally aired June 5, 2025. 

Related: Trump's tariff role model 

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2025-12-30
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The cautionary tale of a recovering day trading addict (Encore)

Seasons greetings from the The Indicator! On today's show, the story of a man who started buying and selling stocks as a hobby ? and got seriously addicted. We also speak with a neuroeconomist about the human brain on day trading. 

This piece originally aired Jan. 25, 2025. 

Related episodes: 
The young trolls of Wall Street are growing up 
Invest like a Congress member 

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2025-12-29
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The economic challenges facing men without college degrees

Many men in the U.S. feel like they're not doing as well as their fathers. But what does the data say? This episode, we're sharing an extended conversation between Darian Woods and Richard Reeves, the president of the American Institute for Boys and Men. They discuss what's really going on with men's wages. Richard also argues economic and cultural changes are needed to address the struggles unique to working-class men.

This interview was included in one of our bonus episodes for NPR+ supporters. Today we're sharing it with everyone. Learn more about NPR+ and sign up at plus.npr.org. 

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2025-12-27
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The secret to Nintendo's success (Encore)

For the next week, we're running some of our favorite shows from this year. On today's show, a brief history of Nintendo and how a small playing card company in Japan became a gaming juggernaut. 

This piece originally aired June 16, 2025.

Related episodes:  
Inside video game economics  
Forever games: the economics of the live service model 
The boom and bust of esports 

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2025-12-26
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Why every A-lister also has a side hustle (Encore)

Happy Holidays from The Indicator! For the next week, we're running some of our favorite shows from this year. On today's show, why celebrities are increasingly investing in their own brands.

This piece originally aired August 14, 2025.Related episodes:
The celebrity crypto nexus
The Olympian to influencer pipeline (Apple / Spotify)

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2025-12-24
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The worst year of Warren Buffett?s career

As Warren Buffett aged, he became a different sort of figure. He transformed from short-term investor into long-term builder. He used Berkshire Hathaway to start buying companies and build an empire. Today on the show, how did Buffett?s fame become an investment tool and how did he handle the biggest crisis of his career? 

Related episodes: 
Planet Money Summer School 2: Index Funds & The Bet
Brilliant vs. Boring 

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2025-12-23
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The spite acquisition that launched Warren Buffett

With an unprecedented decades-long run of success, Warren Buffett is retiring on December 31, 2025. Buffett?s turning point began with the acquisition of a failing textile mill called Berkshire Hathaway. What began as a ?terrible mistake? became the foundation for his empire. Today on the show, how did Buffett become this legendary figure? 

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Planet Money Summer School 2: Index Funds & The Bet
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2025-12-22
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Tariffs. Consumer sentiment. Cape Ratio. Pick The Indicator of The Year!

2025 was a wild year for the U.S. economy. Tariffs transformed the global economy, consumer sentiment hit near-historic lows, and the stock market hit scary, spooky, blood-curdling new heights! So ? which of these economic stories defined the year? 

Our hosts from Planet Money and The Indicator duke it out during our annual ? Family Feud!

Tell us who you think has THE indicator of the year by emailing us at [email protected]. Put ?Family Feud? in the subject line. 

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The Indicators of this year and next 

This indicator hasn?t flashed this red since the dot-com bubble 

What would it mean to actually refund the tariffs?

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2025-12-19
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Catching up with a fired federal worker, a shrimper and a fraudster

After a firehose of economic news in 2025, we wanted to check back on some of the people we?ve heard from on our show. Today, we check in with a former federal employee caught in the Trump administration's wood chipper, a Louisiana shrimper on Trump?s tariffs and an update on a financial aid scam.

Related episodes: 
Why do shrimpers like tariffs? 
What?s the long-term cost of federal layoffs? 
A big bank?s mistake, explained 

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2025-12-18
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The ghosts of Obamacare past, present and future

Absent a holiday miracle, premium subsidies for the Affordable Care Act are set to expire at the end of this year. This will greatly increase the cost of health insurance for many who rely on the marketplace for their coverage. Today on the show, we are visited by the ghosts of Obamacare past, present and future to learn what?s next for this landmark healthcare legislation.

Related episodes: 
Is Obamacare doomed without extended subsidies?
The hidden costs of healthcare churn
How doctors helped tank universal healthcare

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2025-12-17
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Will new loan limits lower the cost of grad school?

The One Big Beautiful Bill Act made a lot of changes to the federal student loan system. One of those changes put a new cap on the amount of loans students in graduate school can take on. Today on the show, we explain the theory behind this change and how it could impact the broader labor market going forward.

Related episodes: 
The Market For Student Loans
Here's why Black students are defaulting
Student loans are back, U.S. travel is whack, and AI ? please, step back

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2025-12-16
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Can American cities grow AND stay affordable?

Cities like Austin and Atlanta used to top lists of places people moved to looking for relatively affordable places to live. Until, one day, they weren?t that affordable. On today?s show, how a low cost of living is threatened by growth, and how one sunbelt city in Alabama is planning ahead. 

Related episodes: 
Why Americans don?t want to move for jobs anymore 
How to build abundantly 
How big is the US housing shortage? 
The highs and lows of US rents 

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2025-12-15
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Nvidia chips for China, frozen Russian funds, and a lot of self-checkout stealing

It?s ? Indicators of the Week! Our weekly look at some of the most fascinating economic numbers from the news. 

On today?s episode: Nvidia chips OK?d for China, a sticky frozen Russian asset situation, and a lot of you seem to be stealing from self-checkout. 

Related episodes: The tower of NVIDIA How to get Russia to pay Ukraine Why the U.S. cut China off from advanced chips

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2025-12-12
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How to make $35 trillion ... disappear

You may be familiar with the AI-fueled stock market boom. Well, former International Monetary Fund Chief Economist Gita Gopinath warns it could mirror the dot-com boom of the late 1990s. But worse. She calculates a similar crash could erase $35 trillion in global wealth. Today on the show, what would that mean for the US and global economies? 

Related episodes: 
This indicator hasn?t flashed this red since the dot-com bubble 
Open AI?s deals are looking a little frothy

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2025-12-11
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Bitcoin miners are betting on AI over crypto

If you want to make Bitcoin, you need powerful computers and a lot of energy. Well, it turns out the same infrastructure needed for Bitcoin mining is pretty valuable in the era of AI. Today on the show, why some miners are starting to throw in the towel on crypto in favor of supporting AI infrastructure. 

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This indicator hasn?t flashed this red since the dot-com bubble
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2025-12-10
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How a former Fed vice chair would approach rate cuts

Federal Reserve is meeting to make its interest rate decision after the government shutdown delayed key economic data. Today on the show, we talk to the former Vice Chair of the Fed, Lael Brainard, about what she would do with interest rates in this critical yet foggy economic moment.

Related episodes: 
A little doomsday feeling is weighing on the economy
Can ... we still trust the monthly jobs report?

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2025-12-09
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Take a penny, leave a penny, get rid of the penny

In November, the U.S. stopped production of the humble penny after 232 years in circulation. On today?s show, a former U.S. Mint director shares the fiscal math that doomed the penny, and an artist pay tribute to this American icon. 

View more of Robert Wechsler?s artwork here.

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What?s the deal with the platinum coin?  

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2025-12-08
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Chips up, rent down, and are people really skimping on holiday gifts?

It?s ? Indicators of the Week! Our weekly look at some of the most fascinating economic numbers from the news. 

On today?s episode: A big goshDRAM memory problem, a holiday spending mystery, and apartment rental prices ? decline?! 

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The highs and lows of US rents 
Taking the temperature of the US consumer 
We Buy A Lot Of Christmas Trees

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2025-12-05
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A little doomsday feeling is weighing on the economy

It is a special edition of the Beigies Awards where one regional Federal Reserve Bank will receive lifetime achievement recognition. Today on the show, we speak to its President about the value of economic anecdotes.

Related episodes: 
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Using anecdotes to predict recessions

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2025-12-04
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How Japan?s new prime minister is jolting markets

Sanae Takaichi was sworn in as Japan?s first female prime minister a little over a month ago, and she?s already making waves in the East and West. The first priority for the people of Japan is if her government can fix the country?s cost-of-living problem. Today on the show, we break down what Sanaeonomics could mean for the Land of the Rising Sun.

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What would it mean to actually refund the tariffs?

Tariffs are bringing in some serious cash into the US Treasury?s pocket. The problem with that money is that it may need to be refunded. A case in front of the Supreme Court could declare several of Trump?s tariffs illegal, which would prompt a return of billions of dollars. Today on the show, we look at how that would work and why the process will likely not be easy. 

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Why the US chose not to have a passenger train system like Europe

Why can't the US be like Europe, Japan or India?countries that all have extensive passenger train systems? On today's show, why the US chose not to. We learn why, despite this, US railroads could still be worth bragging about.

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Moochers, monopolists and market-based poverty help

Public sector economics is a fundamental piece of the discipline. So we wanted to give our hosts an opportunity to put their knowledge to the test in a game we?re calling Indicator Quizbowl. Today on the show, Wailin and Darian go head to head to see who the bigger public policy nerd is.

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Who's financing Meta's massive AI data center?

In a rural pocket of northeastern Louisiana, Meta is building a $30 billion data center called Hyperion. But it?s not being completely financed with Meta?s own money. Today on the show, the opaque system of AI data center financing and why it?s fueling fears of a bubble. 

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Who?s buying all the beef?

President Trump has said he?d try to get more Argentine beef into the U.S. So who would actually do the buying? That?s a general theme with a lot of these trade deals ? big numbers but vague details. When China says it?ll buy more soybeans, is it the government or companies that does the buying? When South Korea promises to invest in American shipyards, who?s actually doing that?  Today on the show, we dig into two questions from listeners and hear directly from an Argentine butcher. 

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How the South is trying to win the EV race 

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Pay transparency. The WhatsApp and Instagram decision. Our beef with screwworms.

It?s ? Indicators of the Week! Our weekly look at some of the most fascinating economic numbers from the news. 

On today?s episode: the effects of pay transparency, Meta?s big win, and freaky flies and beef. 

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How to avoid scammers after a natural disaster

When people lose their homes to wildfire, hurricanes or flooding, they're eager to rebuild. But scammers are also ready to take advantage. On today?s show, the lucrative business of contractor fraud and advice on how to avoid them. 

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Looking for love in the auto supply chain

Foreign automakers already have huge assembly plants in the U.S., but lots of parts and materials come from overseas. 

To avoid costly tariffs, they gotta buy American. But ? How does one meet those suppliers? How do you build a new relationship with them?

The answer: Speed dating. 

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How to make switching jobs not terrifying

The U.S. labor market is stagnant right now, with little hiring and lots of people holding onto their jobs for dear life. In Denmark, there?s a different kind of labor system where it?s easy for employers to hire and fire, but at the same time people have a strong safety net in-between jobs. Today on the show, we learn how ?flexicurity? works through the story of a Danish woman who left her job, and we ask how the model could work in the U.S. 

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Why you overpaid at that online auction

Ever put in the winning bid for something on an auction site only to realize you significantly overpaid? Yeah, there?s a phrase for that. On today?s show: the winner?s curse.

Richard Thaler?s new book with Alex O. Imas is The Winner?s Curse: Behavioral Economics Anomalies, Then and Now.

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50-year mortgages, falling real wages, and doing your rideshare due diligence

It?s ? Indicators of the Week! We look at some of the most fascinating economic numbers from the news and bring them to you.

On today?s episode: The cost of living is outstripping wage growth for most of us, the math behind the Trump administration?s proposed 50-year mortgages, and how we?re just giving Uber and Lyft free money

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Trump's plans for the housing market 

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Where the US got $20B to bail out Argentina

The U.S. is committed to bailing out Argentina to the tune of $20 billion using a little known mechanism called the Exchange Stabilization Fund. On today?s show, what is this fund, why was it created and does Argentina have any hope of paying it back? 

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Trump's backup options for tariffs

The U.S. Supreme Court may soon rule on President Trump?s favorite tariff law.  It could render them moot, but that doesn?t mean the end of tariffs. On today?s show, we explain the president?s back-up options for imposing tariffs.

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