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The Indicator from Planet Money

A bite-sized show about big ideas. From the people who make Planet Money, The Indicator helps you make sense of what's happening in today's economy. It's a quick hit of insight into money, work, and business. Monday through Friday, in 10 minutes or less. Sign up for our newsletter.

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What you should know about your student loans

For many of the 43 million Americans with federal student loans, July 1 is a day to mark on the calendar. Trump?s One Big Beautiful Bill Act is introducing stricter borrowing caps and new repayment plans. Today on the show, we talk with NPR?s Education Reporter Cory Turner about the impact.

Fact checking by Sierra Juarez.

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? Will new loan limits lower the cost of grad school?

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2026-06-29
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GLP-1 and women, the AI office boom, and RTO: CEO ego?

It?s Indicators of the Week (now on YouTube!).

On today?s episode: The effect of GLP-1s on women and the workplace; NYC?s once flailing office space is BACK; your boss asking you to come back to the office miiiight be a narcissist

Fact checking by Emma Ferrara and Corey Bridges. 

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?Why GLP-1s aren't lowering employers' costs

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2026-06-26
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AI is pumping out books. Are they any good?

Are all these AI books any good? And by good, we mean are people willing to buy them ? not whether the prose is singing. We talk to two researchers who?ve got some answers and a travel guide expert on why AI can?t replace first-hand experience.

Fact checking by Sierra Juarez

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? Human certification in the age of AI slop

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2026-06-25
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How stock options made him an overnight millionaire

In 2019, Juan Hernandez was laid off from SpaceX. Luckily, he still had the opportunity to buy $50K - $60K of the company?s stock and, years later, it?s safe to say the risk was worth it. Today on the show, how stock options built California as a tech hub.

Fact-checking by Emma Ferrara. 

Your Next Listen 
? Do traders who make big bets make big money?

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2026-06-24
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Why the $250 bill would be good ? For criminals!

A plan to create a new $250?with President Donald Trump?s face on it?has created a lot of pushback. Who probably won?t be pushing back, though? Criminals. On today?s show, we explain why.

Fact checking by Sierra Juarez.

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? Trump crypto, Trump ballroom and Trump drones

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2026-06-23
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An urban planner, infinite scroll, and ? what is a public good?

It?s time for The Indicator Quiz! We test you, dear listener, on your knowledge of topics that we?ve covered on The Indicator. For today's quiz show, we are putting an urban planner from Nevada to the test. Play along with us and see how you do!

Are you interested in being a contestant on our next Indicator Quiz? Email us your name and phone number at [email protected] and put "Indicator Quiz" in the subject line.

Fact checking by Sierra Juarez.

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? A trap-loving DJ takes on economics

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2026-06-22
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How your phone keeps you scrolling ... even when you want to stop

You pick up your phone to do one quick task, and suddenly 20 minutes have flown by without you even noticing. How do apps do that to you? Today on the show, we bring you an episode of Short Wave that explains how your phone is designed specifically to hold your attention.

Fact checking by Tyler Jones.

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2026-06-19
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Are we in a new era of permanently higher prices?

Inflation is at a three-year high. That?s a problem for the Fed. Yet, under the leadership of new chair Kevin Warsh, it opted yesterday not to hike interest rates. So today on the show, who are the winners and who are the losers amidst higher inflation? 

Mark Blyth?s book, co-authored with Nicolò Fraccaroli is Inflation: A Guide for Users and Losers

Fact checking by Sierra Juarez

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? Why big banks aren?t interested in your savings account

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2026-06-18
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Is gambling the reason we have pro sports?

To hear author David Bockino tell it, gambling has always been a key ingredient of pro sports in the U.S.?it?s as American as apple pie. Bockino is the author of the new book Over/Under: An Unexpected History of Sports Betting. So what gave rise to this new wave of sports gambling? And what are we risking placing so many bets on games? 

Fact checking by Sierra Juarez

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? Prediction markets are threatening national security. Who?s gonna fix it? 

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2026-06-17
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Your American Dream is pending review

The Trump Administration recently announced changes to how would-be immigrants get green cards. And it?s causing a lot of confusion, fear and even panic. Today on the show, we hear firsthand from people navigating green card uncertainty. 

Fact checking by Sierra Juarez.

Your Next Listen 
? If economists controlled the borders

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2026-06-16
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Community colleges are kind of underrated

Community college is an increasingly popular hack for those who want to change their career. Here?s what you should know about this gateway to economic mobility.

Fact checking by Sierra Juarez.

Your Next Listen 
? Which jobs are future-proofed?

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2026-06-15
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Inflation is bad, work from home sad, FIFA World Cup tix NOT deal to be had

It?s Indicators of the Week (now on YouTube!). It?s our weekly look at some of the most fascinating economic numbers from the news. 

On today?s episode: Inflation is back, working from home is making us sad, and World Cup ticket sales are NOT hitting their goooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal!!

Fact checking by Emma Ferrara and Cooper Katz McKim. 

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?Who is the World Cup for anymore?

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2026-06-12
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The SpaceX IPO drama explained

What the SpaceX IPO, the largest ever, reveals about big tech, the NASDAQ and more big IPOs to come. Sure it will make Elon Musk a trillionaire, but what does this mean for your retirement account? 

Fact checking by Emma Ferrara. 

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? What a second Trump term could mean for SpaceX 

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2026-06-11
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Should we tax AI?

Should we tax AI? The AI race has made a lot of people richer ? but most of those gains seem to have gone to the wealthy while everyday workers aren't seeing their incomes go up. 

We speak with Democratic congressional candidate, Alex Bores, who wants to tax AI. Also, we talk to a tax expert who has her reservations. 

Fact checking by Tyler Jones. 

Your Next Listen 

? It's come to this: Human certification in the age of AI slop

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2026-06-10
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U OK, UK?

In the United Kingdom, young people are out of work, government borrowing costs are high, and the nation is burning through PM?s like yesterday?s leftovers. A lot of countries are feeling the economic strain of the Iran war. But is the UK the country we should be worrying about?

Fact checking by Leyla Doss.

Your Next Listen 
? What broke Britain?s economy?

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2026-06-09
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The fired labor economist who couldn't get unemployment

A top labor economist encounters the endlessly frustrating labyrinth of filing for unemployment after getting fired by President Trump. Why are unemployment benefits so hard to get, and can we do anything to fix the system? 

Fact checking by Sierra Juarez.

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? What you need to know about the job report revisions 

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2026-06-08
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Who should new grads boo more? AI or remote work?

Is AI really to blame for young people finding it hard to land first jobs? Is Black unemployment a leading indicator for the rest of the economy? Here?s what the hosts of our Ambies award-winning business podcast think you should take away from the May jobs report.

Fact checking by Sierra Juarez and Vito Emanuel

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Which jobs are future-proofed? 

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2026-06-05
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Equinomics, bag fees, and leftover campaign dollars

Our listeners have QUESTIONS about the economy. And we have answers. Today on the show, we look at why horse breeding might be slowing down, why airlines charge baggage fees, and where campaign cash actually goes.

Fact checking by Sierra Juarez

Your Next Listen 
? Can the yield curve still predict recessions?

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2026-06-04
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Can the internet be reclaimed from Big Tech?

Why one former senior advisor of the FTC thinks a libertarian myth of the internet has given Big Tech too much power.

Fact checking by Vito Emanuel.

Your Next Listen 
? Why infinite scroll's inventor wants to kill his creation

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2026-06-03
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Why boardinghouses could make a comeback

There is a burgeoning effort across the U.S. to revive boardinghouses, aka single room occupancy units or SROs, as a solution to the housing crisis. But what happened to them in the first place? We track the disappearance of the first rung of the housing ladder.

Fact-checking by Vito Emanuel. 

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? How to build abundantly

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2026-06-02
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How AI is clogging the courtroom

AI has made it infinitely easier for anyone who can?t afford a lawyer, can?t get one, or doesn't want one to file a lawsuit and pro se cases are skyrocketing. But the wins haven?t followed and courts are starting to get overwhelmed with new AI filings. Today on the show, what happens when AI gets its day in court.

Your Next Listen 
 ? Most People Can?t Afford Legal Help. 1 Reformer Wants To Change That

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2026-06-01
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Obsession, the most fun job in China, and a new green card policy

It?s Indicators of the Week (now on YouTube!). It?s our weekly look at some of the most fascinating economic numbers from the news. 

On today?s episode: China?s baaaaad job market has led to an interest in becoming a shepherd, a young YouTuber strikes Hollywood gold, and the Trump administration's new green card policy is telling immigrants to 'go home.'

Fact checking by Vito Emanuel. 

Your Next Listen 
? We're about to lose a lot of foreign STEM workers

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2026-05-29
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Saudi?s LIV golf exit is just the start

Is Saudi Arabia no longer a golf state? The Saudi sovereign wealth fund poured billions into culture and sports in the last decade, none more high profile than LIV Golf, a rival to the PGA. So why is it reversing course now?

Fact checking by Vito Emanuel. 

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? Why Saudi Arabia is building a new city in the desert 

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2026-05-28
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What the movies teach us about recessions, memestocks and gold


The Indicator hosts Adrian Ma and Wailin Wong discuss their favorite econ and business movies.

Fact checking by Sierra Juarez.

Your Next Listen 
?Before La La Land, there was Fort Lee, New Jersey

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2026-05-27
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Who?s behind that shell company? We may never know

Why is a law to reign in shell companies getting shelved by the Trump administration? The Corporate Transparency Act had bipartisan support, until it didn?t. We explain what the law was designed to do and why it?s on life support. Fact checking by Sierra Juarez

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? We set up a shell company 

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2026-05-26
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Game of 'roids, trader Trump, and searching for Shakira's tax residence

Diving deep into President Trump?s many stock trades, a peptide business posing as a sporting event and a new breakthrough in Shakira?s ongoing tax drama.

Fact checking by Sierra Juarez

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? Trump crypto, Trump ballroom and Trump drones

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2026-05-22
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So ... how long until these oil prices get REALLY bad

The US-Israel War in Iran is almost three months in and oil prices have risen, but they?re not catastrophic ? yet. Why isn't the price of oil even higher? We learn about how the world is adapting to the blocked Strait of Hormuz.

Fact checking by Sierra Juarez

Your Next Listen 
? Think the oil shock is bad in the US? Look here

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It's come to this: Human certification in the age of AI slop

In an era of AI slop, we find out how some artists are seeking out human verification for their work. Plus, we prove our own episode is 100% human-made.

Fact checking by Sierra Juarez

Your Next Listen ? Can you copyright artwork made using AI? 

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2026-05-20
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Why GLP-1s aren't lowering employers' costs

The vast majority of employer health plans do not cover GLP-1s for weight loss. But roughly 20% do, many believing it will help their bottom line. Perhaps when employees take Wegovy or Zepbound, they?ll need less medical care tied to health issues from obesity. Today on the show, can GLP-1s save employers money in the long run?

Fact checking by Sierra Juarez.

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? No healthcare premiums? In this economy?! Here's how.
Julie Wernau's original episode with Tradeoffs

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2026-05-19
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Taiwan arms sales, Board of Trade, and Chinamaxxing

Unpacking Donald Trump?s trip to China: arms sales to Taiwan, the Board of Trade proposal and China?s growing soft power.

Fact checking by Sierra Juarez

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? What might save China's economy

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2026-05-18
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GameStop rejected, a troubling loan trend, and no to pre-IPO AI shares

On today?s Indicators of the Week: the Gamestop and eBay romance that never was, more and more people are taking out loans for everyday things, and no, everyday people can?t invest in OpenAI and Anthropic before they?ve gone public.

Fact checking by Julia Ritchey and Corey Bridges. 

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? OpenAI's deals are looking a little frothy 

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2026-05-15
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How Trump's central bank beef could hurt the economy

A new documentary from Frontline PBS, called ?The President vs. the Fed?, helps us make sense of the unprecedented power struggle between the world?s most powerful politician and the world?s most powerful bank. You can watch the film, directed by Frontline Correspondent James Jacoby, on Frontline?s website, YouTube channel, or the PBS app. 

Fact checking by Sierra Juarez.

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? Trump?s unprecedented attack on the Fed
? One Fed battle after another

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2026-05-14
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Should NATO be pay-to-protect?

NATO was formed after World War 2 as a collective security alliance that would prevent future world wars. But President Trump sees NATO more like a transaction between countries where allies have to pay up or be left undefended. On today?s episode: How NATO is actually funded, why this longstanding alliance is under strain, and how the U.S. could pay the cost for these frayed relationships.

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? Europe's NATO members take an economic hit

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2026-05-13
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Prediction markets are threatening national security. Who's gonna fix it?

It?s the Wild West of online betting. Prediction markets have been plagued by insider trading allegations, ethical questions and even national security concerns. Today on the show, what are sites like Polymarket doing to self-police, and what other regulations might be necessary? We talk to one U.S. senator with some ideas.

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2026-05-12
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The new AI model that could steal your life savings

Anthropic?s AI model, Claude Mythos, is very powerful. SO powerful it can find software vulnerabilities that might let it, I don?t know, steal your bank login information. Anthropic is holding back the model from a wider release for now. Today on the show, how worried should we really be about Mythos? And are its capabilities actually unique?

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Fighting AI with AI 
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2026-05-11
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Which jobs are future-proofed?

With AI disrupting the workplace, is your job even going to be around in ten years? The Bureau of Labor Statistics has just the handbook for that. 

Today on the show, we flip through the Occupational Outlook Handbook and answer your questions about the future of work.

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AI creates, transforms and destroys... jobs

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2026-05-08
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Trump crypto, Trump ballroom and Trump drones

What do a Florida-based drone company, a crypto billionaire, and a European steelmaker have in common? Ties to President Trump. Since returning to office, the president, as well as his family and friends, have inked a number of business deals that raise questions about conflicts of interest. On today?s show, we scrutinize three of these deals.

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Mixing family business with US trade policy in Vietnam 
Gilded Age 2.0?  
The tensions behind the sale of U.S. Steel 

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2026-05-07
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When will the Iran war hit food prices?

The US-Israel war in Iran is already being felt by American consumers at the gas pump, but when ? and how badly ? could it be felt at the supermarket? 

Today on the show, a food economist takes a crack at forecasting just how much our grocery bills could increase in the coming months, and which items will take the biggest hit.

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2026-05-06
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How your bank account might predict dementia

Some of the earliest signs of dementia can show up in your financial portfolio. Missed bill payments and erratic investments could be indicators, and they can happen years before an official diagnosis. Today on the show, we dig into the connection between finances and dementia, and why the financial health of seniors is falling through the cracks.

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How taxing the wealthy could work

Tax cuts for the middle and working classes, and tax hikes for the rich. What's behind this trend? We ask Democratic Senator Chris Van Hollen to explain his bill that eliminates federal income tax for many workers while hiking taxes for high earners. We also hear from a tax policy expert who has some reservations. 

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Polymarket bots, lithium found: lots!, marathon shoe thoughts

It?s Indicators of the Week (now on YouTube!). It?s our weekly look at some of the most fascinating economic numbers from the news. 

On today?s episode: who wins and loses their Polymarket bets, an American lithium motherlode, and the economics of lightweight running shoes. 

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The UAE wants a dollar lifeline

With the Iran War underway, the United Arab Emirates is looking for some economic certainty. The rich Arab nation is home to a lot of foreign-held deposits, and they?re worried investors will pull those funds. So, they?re looking for an economic backstop. Enter: currency swap lines. Today, we explain why the UAE is looking to its close ally, the U.S., for a currency swap line and how it would work.

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The new economic arms race

Iran?s weaponization of the Strait of Hormuz is the perfect example of how modern warfare is increasingly waged, not only with drones and bombs, but also through the weaponization of economic choke points. 

Today on the show, we talk to author Edward Fishman, who says the U.S. innovated a new kind of economic warfare a couple of decades ago, and that has sparked a new economic arms race. 

Edward Fishman?s book is ?Chokepoints: American Power in the Age of Economic Warfare?.

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Jan. 6ers already got pardoned. Will they get their money back too?

In 2025, President Trump pardoned more than 1,500 of the Jan.6 rioters who ransacked the U.S. Capitol in an attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election. In addition to being convicted of crimes, many of the Jan. 6ers paid fines, the bulk of which went toward repairing the damage to the Capitol. After being pardoned, some of them want their money back. Today on the show, are they entitled to get those fines refunded? 

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Premium and affordable products are having a moment

It?s the Beigie awards! Our less than ten times a year salute to the art and science of telling stories about the economy.

Today on the show, Kevin Dancy, vice president and regional executive at the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, lays out a worrying consumer trend that?s affecting how retailers do business.

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The Devil Wears Prada Index, SNAP, and flight cancellations

It?s Indicators of the Week, our weekly look at some of the most fascinating numbers from the news! And unlike florals for spring, these numbers ARE groundbreaking.

On today?s episode: A dramatic SNAP decrease, fuel costs ground flights, and the Devil Wears Wages Increasing Slightly Faster Than A Small Sample Of Luxury Items!

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How to get your tariff cash back

Businesses might finally see some tariff money refunded to them. That?s because this week, the federal government officially rolled out a process that allows businesses to apply for a refund.

Today on the show, we speak with three business owners about the unexpected simplicity and frustration of the Trump tariff refund process. 

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The Iran war puts the petrodollar regime to the test

The global oil market has supported the U.S. dollar for more than 50 years. But the system has shown signs of cracking. Amidst the Iran war, Iran has reportedly been collecting some tolls in yuan. Today on the show, how the petrodollar regime came to be and what losing it would mean for the U.S.

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Corporate landlords aren't the real villain

So you want to buy a house. You MIGHT notice that the owner isn?t a neighbor in your town, but a large corporation. A recent housing bill that passed the Senate wants to change that. This bill would restrict large institutional investors from owning too many single family homes. The hope is to improve affordability. But what?s the real connection between housing affordability and corporate landlords? We look at the evidence. 

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Is anyone gonna do anything about these Iran War trades?

Traders have made millions betting on the Iran War. They are also suspiciously timed. No public information, then boom: a Truth Social post from President Trump. Cue fat windfalls for the traders. It?s starting to look a lot like insider trading. 

On today?s show, suspicious bets on the Iran War. And are federal regulators or prosecutors looking into these trades ? is anyone?

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