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Lords of Limited

Lords of Limited

Lords of Limited is a podcast about Magic: the Gathering strategy. It is primarily focused on playing Limited, including both draft and sealed. The podcast is designed to help listeners get an edge in their next draft or sealed event, especially on MTG Arena

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Episodes

361: Collecting Evidence for the PT - Episode 361

It's only been one week, but Ethan and Ben have been drafting A TON and have lots to discuss. We think the format is quite balanced and there's lots of small nuances to uncover, so join us as we look at the rules of engagement through the lens of the 10 color pairs!

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2024-02-12
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360: We Suspect MKM Is Great - Episode 360

With pre-realease weekend under their belts, it's time for Ethan and Ben to give their updated thoughts on MKM before the set drops online on Tuesday! Is Collective Evidence upside like Bargain was? Is it truly an 18 land format? How different do Play Boosters feel? And the results from the Moroii vs Leech poll!

Roundtable Draft Log

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2024-02-05
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359: MKM Crash Course - Episode 359

It's time for the Murders at Karlov Manor Crash Course! We've got everything you need to get you ready for your pre-release: a breakdown of creatures vs removal, archetype support, mana sinks, fixing, and a heated debate of our biggest grading differences! Plus, our top commons and uncommons for each color. Put on your Thinking Cap and come along with us!

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2024-01-29
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358: Get a Clue on MKM - Episode 358

It's a classic whodunnit for your hosts as they try to put the incomplete pieces of spoiler season together for Murders at Karlov Manor. The flavor and mechanics of this set have us extremely hyped and we look at as many commons and uncommons as we can get our hands on to try and get ahead of the card evaluation curve. Plus, the return of our favorite preview season segment, "Great or Garbage!"

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2024-01-22
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357: 50 LCI Takes in 50 Minutes - Episode 357

It's time to send off Lost Caverns of Ixalan the only way we know how: with 50 takes in 50 minutes! We've got Golden Egg and Imperial Oath awards to give out, archetypes to rank, combos to discuss, and one last chance for Ben to rant about some rares!

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2024-01-15
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356: A-LCI-Mizing Ixalan - Episode 356

This week we're putting on our designer caps to explore power level in the context of Lost Caverns of Ixalan. We'll take a look at the mechanics and then a list of 10 cards to buff and 10 cards to nerf and give our best attempt at setting them off on the right path!

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2024-01-08
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355: Best & Worst of Limited 2023 - Episode 355

Happy New Year! It's the end of 2023 which means it's time to look back and dole out awards for best and worst among 16 different categories across all five major set releases. Let us know what answers you would have given!

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2024-01-01
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354: Khan I Have This Dance? - Episode 354

We've got a little bit of everything this holiday episode with a big announcement for MC Chicago, how to maximize EV for Festival in a Box Sealed, Ethan's first Pioneer tournament on MTGO, and successfully navigating "The Dance" in KTK Limited!

Ethan's Sealed Example
Ben's Sealed Example

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2023-12-26
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353: Here Comes the KHANtent - Episode 353

It's Arena Open weekend and Ethan and Ben are smack in the middle of their runs on Day 2, but take a break to record this week's episode. We've got our updated thoughts on KTK limited, some takes to walk back, and our updated approaches for how to crush this flashback set on Arena!

Ethan's Draft Log
Ben's Draft Log

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2023-12-18
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352: 50 KTK Takes in 50 Minutes - Episode 352

Khans of Tarkir, one of the most beloved limited formats of all time, is coming to Arena this week! So to prepare you for your first (or returning) drafts of it and the upcoming Arena Open, we decided to roll out the LOL red carpet and give KTK the star treatment with its own 50 takes in 50 minutes!

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2023-12-11
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351: LCI Draft Fossilosophy - Episode 351

Lost Caverns of Ixalan is far from extinct! Now that things have slowed down a bit, there's room for more controlling strategies, dinosaurs are free to roam, and the "black" sheep of the format has much more to offer than most are saying. All this and more as we fossilosophize about the current state of LCI!

Draft Log 1
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2023-12-04
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350: Dino-Sore Losers - Episode 350

We've got some dinosaur bones to pick with LCI! This format has so much variance with Explore and Discover and its speed really puts drafts and games on rails. So, what can we do about it? Well, this week we give our latest takes on the format as well as review a couple draft logs to put the conversation into practice.

Draft Log 1
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2023-11-27
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349: LCI = Let's Chat 1-Drops - Episode 349

Holy 1-drops, Batman! "The format starts on turn 1" is the mantra for this week's episode and we're looking at everything through that lens including our current picture of the top commons, some takes from last week we need to walk back, and a ten minute conversation about one card that Ben just can't believe the data about!

Draft Log Roundtable

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2023-11-20
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348: Lost in the Sauce - Episode 348

Ethan and Ben have a TON of reps of LCI already with the Early Access Event, their respective pre-releases, and the SCGCon Limited $2K! With these reps comes a lot of big picture updates to the format, color and archetype power rankings, and a new segment to discuss individual cards: Sleeve It or Leave it!

Ethan's Sealed Pool

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2023-11-13
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347: LCI Crash Course - Episode 347

It's crash course time, which means we've got everything you need to know to crush your pre-release! Join us as we look at creatures vs. removal, mechanic and archetype support, grading differences, and rankings of top commons and uncommons!

Grading Spreadsheet

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2023-11-07
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346: Time to Get Lost - Episode 346

Welcome to preview season for Lost Caverns of Ixalan! Join Ben and Ethan as they go spelunking into the new mechanics, commons, and uncommons that this exciting set has on offer. Plus, the return of everyone's favorite segment, "Great or Garbage?"

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2023-10-30
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345: 50 WOE Takes in 50 Minutes - Episode 345

Woah, Woe is already over? That's right, preview season is right around the corner so that means it's time to send off Wilds of Eldraine with 50 Takes! Come join us as we go over official (and not-so-official) power rankings, the Golden Egg Award, two card combos, and why WOE won't be on our list of all-time formats.

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2023-10-23
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344: The Questions You're Not Asking - Episode 344

We're taking a rare break from our format-specific content to zoom out and do a level-up style episode all about card evaluation and maximizing power from your draft picks, deckbuilding, and gameplay.

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2023-10-16
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343: WOE Ethan's Going to the PT - Episode 343

It's celebration time on Lords of Limited, and we're not talking about two nonland permanents entering the battlefield: Ethan qualified for the Pro Tour!!! He gives us a little day 2 tournament report from the qualifier weekend, and then he and Ben dive in to review one of the featured drafts from Arena Championship IV.

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2023-10-09
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342: WOE We're Halfway There - Episode 342

As a way to check in on the format now that we're in the latter half of its lifetime, Ben and Ethan come to the episode with two separate lists. One has 5 short, bitesize pieces of advice on the rules of engagement for Wilds of Eldraine, and the other has 5 underrated cards and what you're missing about them.

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2023-10-02
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S1 Ep341: WOErlds Draft Review - Episode 341

What a weekend! Magic Con Vegas featured a limited $100K event as well as six rounds of draft at the World Championship! Ethan and Ben are here to review all the happenings, congratulate their peers' accomplishments, and zoom in on some key decision points from the two featured drafters at Worlds!

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2023-09-25
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340: Splashing Got Me Like WOE - Episode 340

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Mana bases in limited can be tricky. It?s tough to know when and how to splash, what different splash considerations are, if you should be cutting or adding lands, and what?s worth stretching your mana for. In Wilds of Eldraine there is a ton of mana fixing which is why your hosts are here this week to let you know how to best put that fixing to use!

Decks Discussed in this Episode

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2023-09-19
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339: Ready, Set, WOE - Episode 339

Your hosts have both been having a TON of success in Wilds of Eldraine, Ethan with streamlined two color decks and Ben with 4 and 5 color nonsense! This week, they're discussing their different approaches, comparing their impressions with the 17Lands top common data, and putting their strategies into place in a draft roundtable!

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2023-09-11
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338: This Format Is WILD - Episode 338

Early Access Event? Check! Prerelease? Check! So now it's time for Ethan and Ben to let you in on all their current thoughts on WOE before the set goes live this week! They give their adjustment to how various mechanics played out, individual card movers up and down, and a contentious re-rankings of their top commons with many HOT TAKE ALERTS along the way!

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2023-09-04
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337: WOE Crash Course - Episode 337

It's Crash Course time, so strap in and get ready for everything you need to know about Wilds of Eldraine draft! We've got creatures vs removal stats, archetype/keyword support, thoughts on fixing/sweepers/mana sinks, and top commons and uncommons for each color!

Grading Spreadsheet

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2023-08-28
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336: WOE Is Me It's Preview Season - Episode 336

We're going back to one of Ethan's favorite planes with Wilds of Eldraine and there are a ton of commons and uncommons already previewed to go over. We're chatting new mechanics like role tokens and the return of adventures (with a twist), all ten signpost uncommons, removal, and more! Plus, a brand new edition of "Great or Garbage"!

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2023-08-21
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335: Arena Cube $2K? OK! - Episode 335

There's another Arena Open at the end of the month and this time the format is Cube! After a brief chat about Throne of Eldraine returning for a week, Ethan and Ben give an overview on their approach to competitive cubing using the most recent Arena Cube list!

Most Recent Cube List

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2023-08-14
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334: 50 LTR Takes in 50 Minutes - Episode 334

The ring has been destroyed and the journey has come to a close, so Ethan and Ben are here to send off LTR: Tales of Middle Earth with 50 Takes in 50 Minutes. We're summarizing our favorite summer set with discussions on ring tempting, color imbalance, card advantage, The Golden Egg Award, sweet combos, and more!

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2023-08-07
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333: PT LTR Draft Review - Episode 333

Following up last week's discussion, Ethan and Ben review the two featured drafters from day 1 and day 2, highlighting both the picks that impressed them and those where they felt the pro made a misstep. Plus, Ethan makes a desperate plea for improvements to PT limited coverage!

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2023-08-01
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332: How to 6-0 PT LTR - Episode 332

With Pro Tour Barcelona next weekend, your hosts thought it would be fun to have a limited testing meeting live on air! We've both come to the episode with a theoretical plan for drafting LTR at the highest level, what colors and decks we want to navigate towards, and what our top commons, uncommons, and rares are based on what we expect the competition to be doing!

Content referenced in the episode:
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LOL Draft Battle for LTR

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2023-07-24
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331: LTR Full 45 - Episode 331

This week, we're taking a quick look at some underappreciated cards in LTR limited before diving in to a full draft log review from Ben that can only be described with one word: trainwreck!

Draft Log

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2023-07-18
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330: An Unexpected Journey - Episode 330

It's a dangerous road, Frodo, firing up a draft...
But luckily your hosts are here to help guide the way! This week we're looking not so much at "what's the pick?" but instead at "what's the path?" There are many roads to go down in LTR draft, and it's important to know which cards are sending you in which direction.

Draft Logs

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2023-07-11
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329: LTR: The Extended Edition - Episode 329

For the first time since their "Live from Las Vegas" episode, your hosts are recording in the same room! Ben joined Ethan in Pittsburgh this week for a ton of drafting action, and they're here to report on all things lancyclers, ring tempting, 5 Color Legends, and why control is so darn strong in LTR Limited.

Roundtable Draft Log

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2023-07-03
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328: There and Back Again and Again - Episode 328

Tales of Middle Earth is finally here and Ben has not been as pumped to talk about a format in quite some time! Both your hosts have reached high mythic rank in the first week and here to report on what has been winning for them, some individual movers up and down, and Ben outlines his favorite deck you're not drafting yet: UW Bath Salts!

Roundtable Draft Log

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2023-06-27
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327: A Long Expected Set Release - Episode 327

Fresh off the heels of the streamer early access event and a 1st and 2nd place at their pre-releases, Ben and Ethan are here to tell you everything they've learned about LTR so far. How has the Ring Tempted mechanic worked out? Which colors are performing better than others? And how exactly did Ent-Draught Basin play out? All this and more packed into this week's episode!

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2023-06-20
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326: LTR Crash Course - Episode 326

Ethan and Ben set out on the journey of a lifetime to get you as prepared as possible for the Lord of the Rings: Tales of Middle Earth limited format! We've got our usual big picture breakdown of the format looking at archetypes and keyword support, creatures vs removal sizing, card disagreements, and top commons and uncommons ranked!

Grading Spreadsheet

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2023-06-12
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325: LTR Previews Tempt You - Episode 325

The summer set is nearly upon us! About half of the cards for LTR: Tales of Middle Earth have been previewed and we're here to chat about as many commons and uncommons as we can get our hands on. We're looking at new and returning mechanics, color pair themes, possible combos, and our favorite segment: Great or Garbage!

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2023-06-05
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324: 50 MOM Takes in 50 Minutes - Episode 324

We're sad to say goodbye to one of the (greatest of) all-time limited formats, but it's time to send off March of the Machine the only way we know how: with 50 takes in 50 minutes! Start the clock because we've got official LOL power rankings, interactions to look out for, how battles artificially inflated or deflated your life total, the Golden Egg Award Winner and much, much more!

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2023-05-29
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323: Forest Gumption - Episode 323

Ethan and Ben are back with more tenacity, more initiative, more #GUMPTION! This time we're taking a look at green decks and what makes them successful in our minds, what cards to look out for, and why green decks thrive in no-mans-land. Plus, we'll take a look at our draft logs from Day 2 of the Arena Open!

UG Draft Log
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Ben's Day 2 Draft 1

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2023-05-22
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322: MOM's Got Gumption - Episode 322

Have the Lords finally cracked the code for MOM?! Well, they've certainly hit on a strategy that works for them which involves a lot of format knowledge and a little bit of #gumption. Listen along as they talk big picture ideas as well as outline the four archetypes they've got their eyes on: RB Treasures, UW Knights, BW Incubate, and UR Artifacts.

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2023-05-15
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321: Juri Duti and PT Drafts - Episode 321

Ethan's got the low-down on the secret tech for the format: #Gumption Rakdos! After outlining that deck and following up on a couple cards from last week, he and Ben dive in to both featured drafts from Pro Tour Minneapolis!

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2023-05-08
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320: MOMmy Issues - Episode 320

We've got a mid-format grab bag kind of episode for you with tons to discuss including the XIV LOL vs LR Showdown, The Arena Open, our updated thoughts and approaches for the format, 17lands data, what to do when the best decks are cut in your draft, and much more!

Roundtable Draft Log
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2023-05-01
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319: March to a Different Drum - Episode 319

March of the Machine is finally live for everyone and there is so much to unpack about this cube-like format! Ethan's talks about his current approach revolving around the importance of two-drops, while Ben gives us the tools to maximize our drafts for power!

Ethan's Rakdos Deck
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2023-04-24
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318: Draft What Your MOMma Gave Ya - Episode 318

March of the Machine will be available to draft online tomorrow, which means we've got to get our listeners ready! We're updating our assumptions from the crash course after getting our hands on the cards during Early Access and pre-release weekend. Ben breaks down where he thinks Battles go best, why non-green fixing doesn't cut it, and the reason MOM may be the most cube-like set we've ever seen!

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2023-04-18
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317: MOM Crash Course - Episode 317

The full card image gallery for March of the Machine is here which means it's time for another Crash Course! Join us as we attempt some big picture assumptions for this format as well dive deep into card grade differences and one of the most contentious top 3 common rankings in the history of the podcast!

Grading Spreadsheet

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2023-04-10
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316: Your MOM Lets You Have Previews? - Episode 316

It's time to BATTLE! And we're not only talking about recapping the Lords vs. Resources showdown from this past weekend or the Arena Open, but the incredible new card type debuting in March of the Machine. There is a ton to talk about while preview season is in full swing and we do just that this week, so strap in and get your takes hot off the presses!

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2023-04-04
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315: SIRves You Right - Episode 315

The first week of Shadows Over Innistrad Remastered has come and gone and both Ben and Ethan can't get enough! They've been drafting a ton and are here with lots of big picture thoughts, cards that have impressed and underwhelmed, and a look at what archetypes are gaining and losing with the rotation of the Shadows of the Past slot.

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2023-03-28
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314: Please SIR I Want Some More - Episode 314

Shadows Over Innistrad Remastered drops tomorrow, so Ethan and Ben take a hazy trop down memory lane in order to give you the tools you need to trophy your first drafts. We're looking at all of the returning mechanics, going through each color's themes, shouting out the cards we remember overperforming, and ranking some top commons and uncommons!

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2023-03-20
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313: 50 ONE Takes in 50 Minutes - Episode 313

With Shadows Over Innistrad Remastered around the corner and March of the Machines coming not long after that, it is time to say goodbye to one of the more controversial formats in our podcast's lifetime. Set the timer for 50 minutes as we go through what made this a Naya format, how the mechanics stacked up, why blue was so misunderstood, and of course, the crowning of the newest Golden Egg Award winner!

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2023-03-14
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312: ONE is not Zero - Episode 312

The Lords begin this week by reflecting on their victory in the LOL vs LR Showdown and hyping themselves up for their day 2 drafts in the Arena Open. Then it's time for a look at tons of gameplay decisions in ONE from the macro to the micro with deckbuilding considerations, card sequencing, mulligans, and more!

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2023-03-07
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