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The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

What started as a series of short mysteries for the curious mind with a short attention span has evolved into enlightening conversations for the not-so-short attention span. Whether it?s a short mystery, a long conversation, or an audio book, The Way I Heard It is a veritable box of chocolates for the ears, because you never know what you?re going to get.

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430: Enrico Colantoni?The Balls on this Guy!

Award-winning actor and old friend Rico drops by for a hysterical, if not irreverent, hang with Mike and Chuck, friends he?s had for 40+ years. There is laughter; there are tears, and there is laughter that turns into tears. Warning: Don?t listen while drinking coffee in front of a computer.

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2025-03-25
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429: Gary Sinise?The Importance of Showing Up

The multi-award-winning actor, chronic philanthropist, and all-around outstanding human drops by to talk about his son, Mac Sinise, who sadly passed away January 5, 2024. Gary shares Mac?s story and the musical compositions he left behind, all of which can be found on Resurrection & Revival parts 1 and 2, which are available on vinyl here. The three music videos mentioned during the episode are Arctic Circles by Mac Sinise, Shenandoah (author unknown), and The Rise by Mac Sinise.

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2025-03-18
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428: Mike Albrecht?Got Wood?

As a logger and forester, Mike Albrecht knows a lot about wood. He is the two-time president of the American Loggers Council, and he?s on a mission to reintroduce America to one of its most abundant and reliable renewable resources?wood. Mike also speaks to how we can better manage our forests to prevent wildfires.

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2025-03-11
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427: Carlos Whittaker?How Fast is Godspeed?

Carlos spent seven weeks without any screens?no phone, no computer, no TV. His newest book, Reconnected, documents that journey filled with monks, Amish, a bobcat, and lots of self-discovery.

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2025-02-25
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426: Tim Allen Loves the Ballet

It?s a compelling hang with the iconic comedian, actor, and renaissance man who takes a deep dive on a myriad of topics, including philosophy, physics, and fire prevention. His new sitcom, Shifting Gears, can be seen on ABC Wednesdays at 8PM.

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2025-02-18
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425: Darrell Lester?The Eight Letter F Word

Former vice president of marketing at Publishers Clearing House, Darrell Lester, tells the inside story of how PCH started as a mom & pop shop, meteorically rose to one of the most beloved companies in America, and then was nearly destroyed by bad press and lawsuits because of greed. Darrell witnessed it all and chronicled it in his book, Downfall of an Icon: The True Story of Publishers Clearing House.

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2025-02-11
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424: Anson Frericks?Last Call for Bud Light

As President of Anheuser-Busch Sales and Distribution, Anson had a front-row seat to witness how and why Bud Light lost its position as the most popular beer in America (as well as $30 billion in market cap) by changing its focus from shareholder profits to stakeholder capitalism and partnering with Dylan Mulvaney. His new book, Last Call for Bud Light: The Fall and Future of America?s Favorite Beer is out today.

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2025-02-04
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423: Alex Epstein?On Littering and Underpants

Alex Epstein is back! He?s a philosopher and energy expert who argues that "human flourishing" should be the guiding principle of energy and environmental progress.

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2025-01-28
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422: Darnell Epps?Where There?s a Pulse There?s a Purpose

Darnell is the founder and CEO of Thurgood Industries, a career-building platform for skilled workers. He shares his amazing story of how he grew up in New York public housing, served 17 years in prison, and went on to graduate from Yale Law School the same year he received a diploma in manufacturing technology and machining from Lincoln Tech.

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2025-01-21
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421: Edward Ring?What to do About Bass

Edward is the co-founder and director of water and energy policy for the California Policy Center. He?s written voluminously on how to fix California?s problems, and he has lots of thoughts about the Los Angeles wildfires: why they happened, who is getting it right, and who is getting it wrong.

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2025-01-14
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420: Coffee with Mom?Merry Freakin? Christmas!

Peggy Rowe, a.k.a. Mike?s mom, a.k.a. America?s grandmother is not one for excessive cursing? usually. In this episode, however, she makes an exception. Expect tales from the home, cultural appropriation karaoke, and janky Christmas wishes. This cup of coffee will not disappoint. 

2024-12-20
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419: Quentin Schultze & NEW STORY?The Story of His Life

We begin with a mystery for the curious mind with a short attention span and we conclude with the story of Christmas, the way I heard it. The guest is Quentin Schultze and his book can be found here.

2024-12-17
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418: David Alan Arnold?Dead Man?s Curve

Multiple Emmy-winning aerial photographer David Alan Arnold has shot World Series, Super Bowls, X-Games, commercials, and movies. But he truly earns his paycheck risking his life on television shows like Survivor, Amazing Race, and especially Deadliest Catch, the show he worked on with Mike Rowe. Dave and Mike share true stories of harrowing flights, near misses, and fisherman funerals, all of which can be found in David?s book, Help From Above.

2024-12-10
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417: Nikki Stratton?All the Gallant Men

Nikki Stratton is the granddaughter of Pearl Harbor survivor Donald Stratton. Donald was a sailor aboard the ill-fated USS Arizona on December 7, 1941, and wrote the book All the Gallant Men to recount the event. Nikki is the sponsor of the soon-to-be-commissioned nuclear submarine SSN Arizona. Every ship in the US Navy has a female sponsor who has a plethora of duties, including christening the ship. Nikki recounts her grandfather?s harrowing escape from the burning USS Arizona and breaks down all of her duties as sponsor of the SSN Arizona.

2024-12-03
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416: Nathan Walters?So You Want to be a Builder

Oklahoma builder Nathan Walters discusses his unlikely journey to owning his own building business, the virtues and pitfalls of college vs. on-the-job training, and what he?s doing in Oklahoma to encourage high schoolers to consider the trades.

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2024-11-29
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415: Ronda Paulson?Drinking from a Firehose

Ronda and her husband Corey founded Isaiah 117 House to provide a safe and loving home for children awaiting placement in the foster care system. Isaiah 177 House was featured on Mike?s Facebook show, Returning the Favor. Ronda tells how her appearance on the show affected her mission, her life, and especially her health. 

2024-11-19
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414: Rob Lowe was Here? Literally!

The ?80s brat-pack teen idol drops by to share tales from his amazing life in film and TV and explain why he loves doing his gameshow The Floor and his podcast Literally!

2024-11-12
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413: Clinton Romesha?It Doesn?t Get Better

In 2009, Clint was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions during the battle of Kamdesh during the Afghan War, which he recalls in his book, Red Platoon: A True Story of American Valor, a New York Times bestseller. For Veterans Day, Clint shares his insights into why his outpost was a deathtrap, his efforts to prevent veteran suicide, and his survival during that 15-hour battle.

2024-11-05
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412: Coffee with Mom?Pimping Out Your Brothers for Halloween with Peggy Rowe

Three-time NYT Bestselling author a.k.a. Mike?s mom checks in to share tales from Rowe Halloween?s gone by.

2024-10-31
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411: Tim Pearce?Accuracy Under Fire

LAPD and CRASH Unit veteran Tim Pearce shares stories of fighting gangs in South Central in a post-Rodney King world, including the tragic tale of his police officer wife being shot in the line of duty, which led him to invent an amazing life-saving device that simulates a gunshot wound, which he demonstrates on Chuck.

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2024-10-29
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410: Nathan Fillion?Kind of a Big Deal

Star of TV shows The Rookie, Castle, and Firefly Nathan Fillion drops by to catch up with his old friend and ?90s neighbor Mike Rowe. Nathan and Mike reminisce about a very steamy New York apartment, tooling around the snow-covered city with a mycologist?s daughter, and eating burritos served by Alan Tudyk. Nathan also shares his experience working with Stephen Spielberg, his secret to overcoming severe nerves, and how he was humbled on Wisteria Lane.

2024-10-22
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409: Dan Carlin & NEW STORY?A Perfect Hostage

After Mike recites a brand-new mystery for the curious mind with a short attention span, OG Podcaster and Hardcore History host Dan Carlin drops by to tell Mike what he got right, what he got wrong, and why our understanding of the subject of this mystery is so important to understanding the United States today.

2024-10-15
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408: Matt Malone?From the Ground Up

Matt Malone is the CEO of Groundworks, one of the largest foundation repair and waterproofing companies in the United States. He?s also a self-described capitalist, but he practices a new version of the economic system, one that recently had him turn 5,500 Groundworks employees into part owners of the company.

2024-10-08
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407: Kat Timpf?Hot Soup Goes In Hot Takes Come Out

Co-host of the late-night hit GUTFELD! and New York Times bestselling author Kat Timpf has the distinction of being the most pregnant person ever to appear on TWIHI. She chats about the pitfalls of the ?us or them? mentality that has hijacked the nation and shares personal stories of what led her to write her newest book,  I Used to Like You Until? How Binary Thinking is Dividing Us

2024-10-01
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406: Justin Folk?Am I Racist?

Director/Producer Justin Folk is best known for helming the 2022 hit documentary What is a Woman, starring Matt Walsh. Justin and Matt teamed up again for the follow-up, companion piece, Am I Racist? (now in theaters,) in which Matt goes on a diversity, equity, and inclusion journey and becomes a card-carrying DEI expert. Justin shares some behind-the-scenes moments from the film and discusses the state of anti-racism in America. 

2024-09-24
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405: Ken Coleman?Meet the Stoics

New York Times Bestselling author and broadcaster Ken Coleman is in the personal growth business. His books and show are designed to help people identify and embrace their true calling. Ken shares his personal story and gets Chuck to take his career assessment quiz to figure out what he?ll do once Mike fires him. Ken?s newest book is The Get Clear Career Assessment: Find the Work You?re Wired to Do. Promo code ROWE gets you $5 off.    

2024-09-17
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404: Vinnie Tortorich?Talking Points and Scotch

The celebrity fitness trainer, author, and filmmaker drops by to put Mike and Chuck on his trademarked no sugar, no grains lifestyle. Along the way, he discusses the positive effects of eliminating processed foods on fertility, the fallacies of the food pyramid, and the million plus pounds of weight lost by the "Rowebies" following Vinnie's program. If you want to learn more about NSNG and what exactly a Rowebie is, visit VinnieTortorich.com/Rowe

2024-09-10
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403: Josh Smith?From First Blood to Last Bite

When it comes to work ethic, Master Bladesmith Josh Smith self-identifies as ?the guy Mike is always talking about.? At age 11, Josh was taught how to build knives by his little-league baseball coach. By age 19, he was the youngest bladesmith to ever pass the Master Smith test of the American Bladesmith Society. Today, he owns and operates the Montana Knife Company. Josh talks about giving up the security of a six-figure journeyman lineman job to start his own knife company, how he changed the way contestants are treated on Forged in Fire, and what it was like to build a sword for a sheik in Abu Dhabi. 

2024-09-03
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402: Coffee with Mom?The Bad Grammar Scammer with Peggy Rowe

Three-time NY Times bestselling author Peggy Rowe describes her recent encounters with a scammer and blackmailer as Mike and Chuck debate the proper punishment for such scoundrels. 

2024-08-29
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401: Brent Haken?A Farmer is Fixing it

The former farmer and lifelong educator works as director of the Oklahoma Department of Career and Technology Education (CTE) where he brings his get-it-done farming mindset to education. Brent discusses how Oklahoma?s Central Tech is using competition to help prepare students for real-world opportunities and focusing on a mastery of skill rather than a time-based curriculum. 

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2024-08-27
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400:Sabin Howard?Born Cancelled

Master Sculptor Sabin Howard is known as America?s Michelangelo for his work in, and deep knowledge of, Modern Classicism. On September 13, 2024, he will unveil his newest work, the National WWI Memorial in Washington, D.C., called A Soldier?s Journey. Sabin discusses why he believes that great art can be recognized by everyone and should be for ?we the people,? why art is inextricably connected to history, and why art tells us what it means to be human.

2024-08-20
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399: Jason Alexander?I Thought There?d be More Plumes

The Tony Award-winning actor, director, and podcaster goes deep with TWIHI about everything from his traumatic childhood and dashed dreams of becoming a magician to the Broadway show that made him want to act and his recollections of Stephen Sondheim and Hal Prince.

2024-08-13
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398: Victor Davis Hanson?So Goes Glory

VDH is a Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, a Distinguished Fellow at Hillsdale College, a professor of public policy at Pepperdine University, a nationally syndicated columnist, a bestselling author, AND a fifth-generation California farmer. In his July 29, 2024 article, America?s Lab Rats? (read here: https://victorhanson.com/americas-lab-rats/ ), Victor argues that American society appears to be treating many of its citizens like insignificant lab rats in some kind of social experiment, leading to unintended and harmful consequences. His website. His book.

2024-08-06
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397: Bishop W.C. Martin?Hope in Possum Trot

Bishop Martin and his wife Donna were the inspiration for the film Sound of Hope: The Story of Possum Trot, which details their miraculous journey navigating the foster care system in a small Texas town and how they inspired the parishioners of Bennet Chapel Church to adopt 77 children. Bishop Martin speaks to how this unlikely story became a book and a movie and how it all was accurately prophesized in advance. 

2024-07-30
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396: Frank H. McCourt, Jr,?Selected Garbage from Families of Distinction

The American businessman and philanthropist talks about growing up in Boston as a fifth-generation builder, starting his first business collecting garbage at the age of 13, and the mission he?s on to create a new internet by arguing in his new book,  Our Biggest Fight, that we the people?s data should belong to we the people.

2024-07-23
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395: Dennis Quaid?Getting All the Stuff Right

The veteran actor and gospel singer recounts his early career, what made him give up his dream of becoming a veterinarian, how he realized he had a problem with cocaine and what he did to fix it, how Jerry Lee Lewis taught him to play the piano, and what it was like playing Ronald Reagan for his upcoming movie. And at the end of the episode?he sings a song! See the trailer for REAGAN HERE

2024-07-16
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394: Kris Engelstad?Don't Call Her a Philanthropist

As trustee of the Engelstad Foundation, Kris has overseen the endowment of over $300 million in scholarships and grants. Kris talks about working as a maid in her father?s hotel on the Las Vegas strip, what she learned from watching him build several Nevada landmarks, and what it?s like to manage a billion-dollar foundation.

2024-07-09
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393: Pete Hegseth?The War on Warriors

In honor of Independence Day, TWIHI welcomes Army veteran and NYT bestselling author Pete Hegseth, who talks about why civic rituals like parades are so important to convey what we value as a society, how to acknowledge America?s faults while still appreciating her greatness, and how our armed forces are destroying themselves from the inside. Pete?s book is The War on Warriors.

2024-07-02
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392: Coffee with Mom?Keep an Eye on Your Son's Stool with Peggy Rowe

Peggy Rowe is a three-time New York Times bestselling author, the matriarch of the Rowe family, and, of course, Mike?s mom. The coffee klatch conversation deals with handling disappointment, the difference between encouragement and enabling, and how bowls and bowls of mashed potatoes can help you find your Tiddlywinks pieces. Peggy?s new book is available for presale at MikeRowe.com/MomsBook

2024-06-27
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391: Chuck Klausmeyer & NEW STORY?Credit Where It?s Due

Here's a brand new story about the performance of a lifetime followed by another edition of Two Dudes Talking, a.k.a. Mike and Chuck break it down with some laughs.

2024-06-25
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390: Steven Pressfield?Pulling the Pin

Steven Pressfield, the two-time New York Times Bestselling author of The War of Art, Gates of Fire, and The Legend of Bagger Vance, discusses how to listen to your muse while ignoring your Resistance, why he carries a Smith Corona typewriter but doesn?t actually use it, and what he learned from driving a truck, picking fruit, and writing advertising copy. His newest book is a memoir titled Govt Cheese.

2024-06-18
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389: Gavin de Becker?You Can Learn a Lot in a Smoke-Filled Airplane

The nation?s leading expert on de-escalation and public figure protection unpacks the importance of intuition, the difference between true fear and unwarranted fear, and the epidemic of sudden, unexpected deaths among seemingly healthy people beginning in 2021.

2024-06-11
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388: Riley Gaines?Swimming Against the Current

The 12-time NCAA All-American, 5-time SEC Champion, and 2-time Olympic qualifier who went from being one of the fastest collegiate swimmers in the world to a controversial women's rights advocate talks about what it takes to train in a pool six hours per day, why she?s not going to be training to be an endodontist, and recounts the harrowing experience of being held captive on the campus of San Francisco State University. Her new book is  Swimming Against the Current: Fighting For Common Sense in a World That?s Lost Its Mind. 

2024-06-04
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387: Firefighters Candice McDonald and Jonathan Dayton?Make Me a Firefighter

In a double-header of do-goodery, TWIHI welcomes not one but two very distinguished volunteer firefighters to discuss why they have been called to such a dangerous philanthropic endeavor, what it takes to become a volunteer firefighter, and how Americans of any age can get involved at MakeMeAFirefighter.org

2024-05-28
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386: Chuck Klausmeyer & NEW STORY?Here Be Dragons

First, a brand-new mystery about brave men in a distant sea, then Mike and Chuck take a deeper dive.  

2024-05-21
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385: Karey Kirkpatrick?I Don't Want to Manage People Like Me

The film writer, director, and producer known for Over the Hedge, Chicken Run, and James and the Giant Peach talks about his work ethic and creative process, why animated films are modern-day Aesop?s fables, and that time he almost got to run DreamWorks.

2024-05-14
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384: Matt Hagan and Chloe Hudson?Freedom Food and Funny Cars

Matt is a four-time NHRA Funny Car world champion and first-generation cattle and CBD farmer. Chloe is a mikeroweWORKS work ethic scholarship recipient, an AWS Certified Weld Inspector, and a social media influencer. She also runs social media for Matt Hagan and Tony Stewart. This conversation does not stay in its lane as it veers from the high stakes involved in going 330 mph in four seconds to the tasty steaks that the Hagan Cattle Company produces in Virginia to the political stakes of not keeping your food supply chain in America. 

2024-05-07
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383: Coffee with Mom?Nude Sunbathing with America?s Grandmother

The three-time NYT bestselling author, a.k.a. Mike?s mom, talks the chosen frozen on Easter Sunday, speaking in tongues, the Key Bridge tragedy, Fort McHenry and Ranger Vince, our expanding universe, great illusionists, and how Peggy gets her vitamin D?doctor?s orders. 

2024-05-02
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382: Scott Mann?Individualism Rightly Understood

The former U.S. Army Green Beret, NYT bestselling author, leadership consultant, and perennial storyteller talks about the division and tribal behavior that permeates our country now, the death of honor, shame, and consequence, and why Alexis de Tocqueville was right when he observed that America succeeds because she puts the individual ahead of the collective. You can preorder Scott?s newest book here.

2024-04-30
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381: Chuck Klausmeyer & NEW STORY?The Face of an Angel

A NEW mystery for the curious mind with a short attention span, followed by Mike and Chuck taking a deeper dive into the story?s DOUBLE reveal. That?s right, you get two reveals for the price of none!

2024-04-23
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