It was Stefanie and Jonathan?s worst nightmare: Jonathan?s depression had become so severe he was begging to be taken to the hospital. Stefanie took him to the hospital and then took care of everything else for the family. When she married Jonathan years earlier, Stefanie knew about his mental health struggles. But she wasn?t prepared for this moment. Then, Stefanie fell apart too ? and it was Jonathan?s turn to take care of her.

In this episode, Anna talks to Stefanie about what it?s like to love someone through the worst of it, and what Stefanie learned about her own needs after years of ignoring them.

You can read Stefanie?s original story in the Modern Love column.

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In their buzzy new film, ?The Drama,? Zendaya and Robert Pattinson play an engaged couple whose relationship is imploding. With their wedding just a week away, Emma (Zendaya) reveals a shocking secret about her past that sends her fiancé, Charlie (Pattinson), into a self-destructive spiral of doubt.

The stakes are high for these fictional lovers, but the underlying relationship anxiety is relatable: What if you don?t know the person you love as well as you think you do? What if they surprise you, and that surprise is not good?

In this episode, Anna Martin, the host of ?Modern Love,? asks Pattinson and Zendaya what these questions mean to their characters, and in their own lives.

You can watch a video version of this episode here. 

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Explore the trials and tribulations of love in these deeply personal essays. A collaboration of The New York Times and WBUR in Boston, Modern Love: The Podcast features the popular New York Times column, with readings by notable personalities and updates from the essayists themselves. Join host Meghna Chakrabarti (WBUR) and Modern Love editor Daniel Jones (NYT) -- and fall in love at first listen.

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